Current WAR CRIMES Israel - * ICC issues warrants for Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu & Yoav Gallant & for Hamas's Mohammed Deif

[Kurve]

The ICC has also issued a warrant for Hamas leader Mohammed Deif, who Israel says they have killed.

According to the ICC, the chamber “found reasonable grounds to believe” that Deif was “responsible for the crimes against humanity of murder; extermination; torture; and rape and other form of sexual violence; as well as the war crimes of murder, cruel treatment, torture; taking hostages; outrages upon personal dignity; and rape and other form of sexual violence”.

It also said there were reasonable grounds to believe the crimes against humanity were “part of a widespread and systematic attack directed by Hamas and other armed groups against the civilian population of Israel”.

For Netanyahu and Gallant, who was replaced as defence minister earlier this month, the chamber “found reasonable grounds to believe” that they “each bear criminal responsibility for the following crimes as co-perpetrators for committing the acts jointly with others: the war crime of starvation as a method of warfare; and the crimes against humanity of murder, persecution, and other inhumane acts”.

It also found reasonable grounds to believe that “each bear criminal responsibility as civilian superiors for the war crime of intentionally directing an attack against the civilian population”.




INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT

INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT - Elements of Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes

 

[treeebeard]

And not a bit biased

Maybe it says more about me than you, but I'm surprised you didn't call Yaakov anti semitic.

 

[Kurve]

Yes, policing will definitely be cheaper if protesting is banned.

The more violent and extreme elements in protest groups might not find it so appealing if they're restricted from harassing people outside places of worship.

 

[faible]

The more violent and extreme elements in protest groups might not find it so appealing if they're restricted from harassing people outside places of worship.

It'll almost certainly result in stupid and inappropriate application of laws, like police being overly heavy handed with people protesting some kind of paedophile priests at a church, whilst standing by and watching some far-right nutters harrass others.

 

[faible]

From the NYT article:

Israeli officers have also acted with near impunity. Only two officers are known to have been fired for their role in the air campaign, after they oversaw a drone strike that killed several foreign aid workers whom the officers had confused for militants.

The military said that a panel appointed by the military chief of staff was investigating the circumstances of hundreds of strikes.

No one has been charged.

Sounds like the only reason anyone has suffered consequences was they made the mistake of killing western aid workers.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Not sure if an article can be "biased" towards accuracy and truth.

That's a big IF

Meanwhile, as the longstanding chair of Australia-Israel Chamber of Commerce (AICC), perhaps second to the Business Council of Australia as this country’s most prestigious big business lobby, she remains cozy with Israeli bosses and weapons contractors who profit from Israel’s forever war.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

It'll almost certainly result in stupid and inappropriate application of laws, like police being overly heavy handed with people protesting some kind of paedophile priests at a church, whilst standing by and watching some far-right nutters harrass others.

Buuuut... getting back to the protests in question...

 

[Jazny]

First they came for antisemites protesting outside of synagogues, and I did nothing because I'm not an antisemite protesting outside a synagogue...

 

[Kurve]

It'll almost certainly result in stupid and inappropriate application of laws, like police being overly heavy handed with people protesting some kind of paedophile priests at a church, whilst standing by and watching some far-right nutters harrass others.

Safe zones have worked well outside abortion clinics with women no longer needing to run a gauntlet of abuse to access. Protestors can still make their presence known.

 

[treeebeard]

Barrister Michael Stanton, the previous president of civil liberties organisation Liberty Victoria, said the announcement appeared to be a "kneejerk response".

Mr Stanton said the government had wrongly conflated the recent criminal act at the Adass Israel Synagogue in Ripponlea with peaceful protesting.

"There is simply no link between that and the protest movement that's been occurring for well over a year now," he said.

"To use that really shocking event to try to clamp down on the right to protest is deeply concerning."

Mr Stanton said the nature of protests in Melbourne's CBD, which brought them in close proximity to places such as St Paul's Cathedral, would make the government's legislation "unworkable".

"Banning protest outside of places of worship as a blanket rule can't be reasonable, it can't be proportionate," he said.

"There's a real concern that this may lead to, effectively, a permit system by stealth."

 

[faible]

Safe zones have worked well outside abortion clinics with women no longer needing to run a gauntlet of abuse to access. Protestors can still make their presence known.

Let's see when they publish more detail what it looks like and whether it'll be equally applied to all protest groups.

 

[jason_recliner]

Safe zones have worked well outside abortion clinics with women no longer needing to run a gauntlet of abuse to access. Protestors can still make their presence known.

Not if the Jewish lobby gets their way. They want protests in the "cities" banned. Very little benefit from protesting in the suburbs or countryside.

 

[Kurve]

Not if the Jewish lobby gets their way. They want protests in the "cities" banned. Very little benefit from protesting in the suburbs or countryside.

* The antisemitism envoy wants protests in "City centres" banned, which have been every week for one year plus. Segal claims these protests have morphed in to anti-Jewish sentiment.

Just because the envoy has recognised the protests may be contributing to or driving antisemitism, doesn't mean she'll succeed in having protestors banned from city centres, there's benefit to simply saying it out loud.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

* The antisemitism envoy wants protests in "City centres" banned, which have been every week for one year plus. Segal claims these protests have morphed in to anti-Jewish sentiment.

Just because the envoy has recognised the protests may be contributing to or driving antisemitism, doesn't mean she'll succeed in having protestors banned from city centres, there's benefit to simply saying it out loud.

Jews and non-Jews alike would love to see them banned. The vast majority of Australians have had enough. What have they achieved other than higher levels of hate towards Jews and Israel? They won't sway the government, which is ambivalent anyway, nor will they stop the war.

 

[DapperDon]

Jews and non-Jews alike would love to see them banned. The vast majority of Australians have had enough. What have they achieved other than higher levels of hate towards Jews and Israel? They won't sway the government, which is ambivalent anyway, nor will they stop the war.

Just those protests or all protests?

 

[DapperDon]

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[faible]

Another one for you all to ignore and keep heads in sand

Almost a full page of discussion about protest laws.

No comment on the NYT article investigating the drastic change in rules of engagement for civilian harm by the IDF in Gaza.

 

[jason_recliner]

Jews and non-Jews alike would love to see them banned. The vast majority of Australians have had enough. What have they achieved other than higher levels of hate towards Jews and Israel? They won't sway the government, which is ambivalent anyway, nor will they stop the war.

Correct, the vast majority of Australians have had enough of Israeli war crimes and mass murder. The protests have been at least partially successful in raising awareness of the endless heinous Israeli atrocities, and keeping them in the public eye. The reasons people generally protest. In city centres.

 

[Kurve]

Almost a full page of discussion about protest laws.

No comment on the NYT article investigating the drastic change in rules of engagement for civilian harm by the IDF in Gaza.

Yeh I tried to raise that early in the thread, that the rules of war had changed. That was ages ago so what took the NYT so long?

 

[faible]

Yeh I tried to raise that early in the thread, that the rules of war had changed. That was ages ago so what took the NYT so long?

Finding north of 100 people to talk about and/or verify the information to find out exactly what changed, not just that 'something has changed'?

The Times reviewed dozens of military records and interviewed more than 100 soldiers and officials, including more than 25 people who helped vet, approve or strike targets. Collectively, their accounts provide an unparalleled understanding of how Israel mounted one of the deadliest air wars of this century. Most of the soldiers and officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were barred from speaking publicly on a subject of such sensitivity. The Times verified the military orders with officers familiar with their content.

 

[Kurve]

Finding north of 100 people to talk about and/or verify the information to find out exactly what changed, not just that 'something has changed'?

Nah, I watched a good analysis where the change was specified and the anticipated impact but I didn't chase it down again to post due to lack of interest.

It wasn't a secret.

 

[Kurve]

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I'll wait see if that speech is rated by community notes because it's astonishing and reads like genocidal intent if it's directed at Gazans.

 

[Kurve]

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Here's one response from the former Ambassador to Canada and Snr Executive Security and Intelligence.

 

[faible]

Nah, I watched a good analysis where the change was specified and the anticipated impact but I didn't chase it down again to post due to lack of interest.

It wasn't a secret.

Pretty strange that people spent the next however many months telling us Israel weren't fairly lax in their willingness to slaughter civilians given it wasn't a secret Israel had drastically loosened their rules of engagement around civilian casualties.

Have you read the article?

 

[Jazny]

I'll wait see if that speech is rated by community notes because it's astonishing and reads like genocidal intent if it's directed at Gazans.

Given that it's unclear who or what he is talking about the clip seems to be cut like a quote mining operation, which is weird considering it seems to have come from the same 25 of November speech where he was advocating for the reduction of half of Gaza's population through voluntary migration... That's insane enough. But I couldn't find any mention anywhere in the news of Smotrich advocating for killing anything that moves in Gaza from the same speech, and it was relatively widely covered from the Times of Israel to Middle East Eye and Turkish news.

 

[Kurve]

So UN staff members are being held hostage.

In a statement on X, Dr Tedros said he was in Yemen "to negotiate the release of UN staff detainees and to assess the health and humanitarian situation" in the country. He provided no further details about who the UN detainees were.

UN health chief at Yemen airport during Israeli air strikes

Israel claimed responsibility for the strikes, saying it had targeted Houthi "military infrastructure".

www.bbc.com