VFL VFL Season 2024

[stormskye]

Right Descion

You aren’t taking any prisoners after our seasons ended are you TD

 

[TradeDraft]

You aren’t taking any prisoners after our seasons ended are you TD

Called it little back

 

[Ctracks]

Gee that was quick!

either moving to the AFL program or ?

 

[Jen2310]

either moving to the AFL program or ?

Might get an idea at final training this week. Maybe promotion to line coach unless he is moving on. Would hate to lose him altogether.


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[davea_melb]

Thanks Fraser for coaching the VFL Pies, all the best to Andy Otten

Andy Otten

Age

35

Ht

192cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.3

4star

K

7.3

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

4.9

5star

T

2.2

4star

MG

175.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

14.2

4star

K

5.4

2star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

going forward.

 

[Soups]

Need to attack some decent previous listed AFL players next year. Crocker should be moved on imo.

 

[Bianconeri]

Need to attack some decent previous listed AFL players next year. Crocker should be moved on imo.

Agree with your first sentence, heavily disagree with the second.

 

[Soups]

Agree with your first sentence, heavily disagree with the second.

Fair enough. I am sure some will agree with you too.

I would be looking at bolstering our midfield. And we probably have to move him on to do so.

 

[Jen2310]

I kinda agree...

I think we need to do better than Crocker. No sure he's provided a lot this year.
Very inconsistent, but using him one out in the goal square didn't help.

 

[TradeDraft]

I kinda agree...

I think we need to do better than Crocker. No sure he's provided a lot this year.
Very inconsistent, but using him one out in the goal square didn't help.

Can’t remember any game Crocker made any impact in 2024

Though did not look 100% at all in 2024

 

[Jen2310]

Can’t remember any game Crocker made any impact in 2024

Though did not look 100% at all in 2024

the first game v carlton.
But otherwise its been pretty off/on.

 

[manicpie]

17 marks for Dean on the weekend. I reckon he's in for a big 2025

 

[Jen2310]

 

[Harry O]

I see Southport kicked 190 points in VFL finals today. Any draft options amongst them ?

It shows VFL success is possible if you invest in it Not sure why we continually stuff it up

 

[Jen2310]

I see Southport kicked 190 points in VFL finals today. Any draft options amongst them ?

It shows VFL success is possible if you invest in it Not sure why we continually stuff it up

Looking at their line up. Quite a number of ex afl players

 

[The Kaiser Chief]

I see Southport kicked 190 points in VFL finals today. Any draft options amongst them ?

It shows VFL success is possible if you invest in it Not sure why we continually stuff it up

Southport kicked 195 points against Frankston who have been great.
Frankston went to QLD last week and beat the Gold Coast reserves by 3 points in the wild card round. Unfortunately, they had to go back to the Gold Coast to play Southport who got hold of them. Not easy for semi professional footballers to travel to QLD back to back.

I don't think recruiting mid 20's players from Southport is going to be the way forward for the oldest list in the AFL.

There are 6 teams still alive and only 3 are aligned - Bulldogs, Brisbane and Geelong.
3 non aligned are Southport, Williamstown and Werribee.

Gold Coast beat Werribee in last years grand final. Hoping Werribee can win it this year

 

[Jen2310]

Not sure how legit, but saw a comment on twitter that Ryan Sparkes unlikely won't be coming back to vfl next year. Going local full time.
Hoping that's not the case. I felt he had a good year, one of our better performing vfl players this year.

 

[TradeDraft]

Not sure how legit, but saw a comment on twitter that Ryan Sparkes unlikely won't be coming back to vfl next year. Going local full time.
Hoping that's not the case. I felt he had a good year, one of our better performing vfl players this year.

Must have a Big Offer to do that as well not planning to try and get on a AFL List

 

[Jen2310]

Good for Glove. He's had a fantastic year. Hopefully gets in the final team

 

[Jen2310]

BY THE NUMBERS​

Position: 20th
W-L-D (%): 4-14 (76.1%)
Players used: 57
Played every match: 2 – Sam Glover, Campbell Lane
AFL players used: 25 (184 matches)
Ex-AFL players: 2 (20 matches)
Debutants: 19 – Christian Algeri, Hayden Brown, Nicky Christian, Zane Cochrane, Harry Demattia, Boston Dowling, Patrick Farrant, Jett Hartman, Jack Hutchinson, Tew Jiath, Harry Mahoney, Isaiah Markovsky, Josh Mathey, Wil Parker, Luke Quaynor, Angus Seivers, Iliro Smit, Oliver Warburton, Conor Willis

STAR PERFORMERS​

Best and Fairest: 1st: Sam Glover (199 votes), 2nd: Campbell Lane (182), 3rd: Ryan Sparkes (168), 4th: Ed Allan (156), 5th: Ash Johnson (149)
J.J. Liston Trophy: Finlay Macrae (7 votes), Ned Long (5), Joe Richards (5), Ed Allan (3), Lachie Sullivan (3)
Coaches MVP Award: Ned Long (26 votes), Finlay Macrae (22), Charlie Dean (21), Ed Allan (15), Joe Richards (14)
Smithy’s VFL Team of the Year: Nil
Leading Goalkickers: Ash Johnson (21), Ben Crocker

20

Ben Crocker

Age

27

Ht

188cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.5

2star

K

6.3

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.7

4star

G

0.8

4star

D

9.3

2star

K

7.5

3star

HB

1.8

1star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.5

2star

G

0.8

4star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.0

4star

(18), Joe Richards (15), Harry Mahoney (9), Josh Carmichael (9), Jack Hutchinson (9)

STAT LEADERS​

(Averages – minimum 6 matches)
Disposals: Finlay Macrae 27.5, Jack Bytel 27.2, Lachie Sullivan 24.6, Ned Long 22.1, Campbell Lane 20.8
Contested possessions: Finlay Macrae 12.1, Lachie Sullivan 10.6, Jack Bytel 9.9, Ned Long 9.7, Aiden Begg 8.3
Kicks: Jack Bytel 14.7, Sam Glover 14.4, Charlie Dean 14.2, Campbell Lane 13.9, Finlay Macrae 13.7
Handballs: Lachie Sullivan 14.0, Finlay Macrae 13.7, Jack Bytel 12.5, Ned Long 12.1, Ed Allan 10.7
Marks: Charlie Dean 8.2, Sam Glover 5.9, Oleg Markov

37

Oleg Markov

Age

28

Ht

188cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.4

3star

MG

228.8

4star

No current season stats available

D

15.4

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

4.2

4star

M

6.0

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

295.2

5star

5.2, Jakob Ryan 5.2, Jack Bytel 5.0, Campbell Lane 5.0
Tackles: Ned Long 9.0, Finlay Macrae 6.2, Aiden Begg 5.9, Ryan Sparkes 4.7, Ed Allan 4.4
Hitouts: Iliro Smit 22.6, Aiden Begg 15.9, Liam Purcell 11.8, Patrick Farrant 1.2, Ash Johnson 1.1
Clearances: Finlay Macrae 6.5, Lachie Sullivan 4.8, Ned Long 4.7, Jack Bytel 4.6, Aiden Begg 3.9
Inside-50s: Finlay Macrae 5.2, Jack Bytel 4.3, Ned Long 4.1, Joe Richards 3.9, Ryan Sparkes 3.4, Ed Allan 3.4
Rebound-50s: Sam Glover 6.7, Charlie Dean 6.5, Campbell Lane 4.2, Oleg Markov

37

Oleg Markov

Age

28

Ht

188cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.4

3star

MG

228.8

4star

No current season stats available

D

15.4

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

4.2

4star

M

6.0

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

295.2

5star

4.2, Jakob Ryan 3.8


What went right: The season started well for the Magpies with a strong away win over Sandringham at RSEA Park in the opening round of the season. They then fell just short of preliminary finalist the Brisbane Lions on the road in Round 2 before edging arch-rivals Carlton by a point in a thriller. Ned Long and Jack Hutchinson impressed in the first part of the season and were picked up in the AFL Mid-Season Draft, with Long promoted by the Magpies and the West Coast Eagles swooping on Hutchinson. They extended their 130-year record of not losing at the Swinburne Centre and then stunned the Lions in the rematch at AIA Centre to send Josh Fraser

Josh Fraser

Age

42

Ht

202cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

8.7

3star

HB

5.4

4star

CL

2.5

4star

HO

11.8

5star

No current season stats available

D

9.4

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

2.8

3star

HO

8.6

5star

and Campbell Lane out as winners.


What went wrong: Everything in between. The wheels completely fell off as the Magpies lost 12 matches in a row through the middle of the season. They were the victim as Coburg and then the Northern Bullants broke long losing streaks, but the low point was the 83-point hammering from Carlton in Round 17 that ended up snapping the Magpies out of their malaise. Injuries to the AFL list didn’t help – they got 103 games less service from the senior squad than last year and had to use 19 debutants compared to last year’s 11.


Summary: After making the second week of the finals last year, slumping to 20th was a surprise and major disappointment for Collingwood supporters. There were excuses, including limited AFL player availability and not playing as many games at Victoria Park as originally hoped. But they did get important games into youngsters such as Harry Demattia, Tew Jiath, Ed Allan and mid-season draftee Iliro Smit that will serve the club well into the future.


Grade: 2/10

2024 Smithy's VFL Season Review - Collingwood

After reaching the second week of the finals in 2023, Collingwood plummeted to 20th this season as a crippling injury list saw the Magpies slump to a 12-game losing streak

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[whiskeytown]

They will struggle again this year I think

That being said I can see a core group not getting a lot of senior opportunity and playing together every week

Hopefully they build some cohesion as the year goes on

And the kids develop nicely

 

[Jen2310]

They will struggle again this year I think

That being said I can see a core group not getting a lot of senior opportunity and playing together every week

Hopefully they build some cohesion as the year goes on

And the kids develop nicely

I think it'll depend on injuries, as I felt thats a big thing that impacted our vfl side in 2024.
But next years squad looks to be quite different, so it'll be interesting to see how they go.

 

[sr36]

I think it'll depend on injuries, as I felt thats a big thing that impacted our vfl side in 2024.
But next years squad looks to be quite different, so it'll be interesting to see how they go.

Assuming we pick up a few good vfl players should be a pretty decent group with a good injury run.

 

[manicpie]

They will struggle again this year I think

That being said I can see a core group not getting a lot of senior opportunity and playing together every week

Hopefully they build some cohesion as the year goes on

And the kids develop nicely

I reckon we're more interested in developing our players rather than worrying about winning in the VFL. Is it a good thing, I have no idea

 

[sr36]

I reckon we're more interested in developing our players rather than worrying about winning in the VFL. Is it a good thing, I have no idea

Our VFL team isn't doing either. Recently it's been a holding pen for the bottom half of our list who spend a few years there before being delisted. Might just be the nature of things, but it hasn't been the place to watch our future players. Josh is the only one of our senior players that I can think of who played a fair bit of reserves footy for us. After their first year at the club, I don't think anyone else other than Cox would have played much if any reserves footy for us.

Hopefully Allan and a couple of others can buck the trend.