NWO/Illuminati US politics - Pt 3

How long before Musk & Trump have a major rift?

  • Under one month

  • Under six months

  • Under one year

  • Under two years

  • Not happening, never!

  • Not until Musk is ready to seize the Presidency


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Here is US Politics Pt 2

Donald Trump was sworn in as president of the United States on Monday 20th January, 2025 in Washington DC.

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I believe Trump will attempt to destroy every single person and entity that tried to hold him to account for his past actions and crimes.

I believe he will reimplement Schedule F which will remove the last remaining safeguards that stand in the way of him being a democratic president, to an autocratic pseudo dictator.

He will continue to stoke racial hatred and division.
He will expand the attack on transgenderism to homosexuality and LGBTQ+ in general.
He will attack and remove funding/support for humanitarian aid.
He will expand the US support for Israel to become an ethno-state. As well as more aggressive actions and military targeting in places like Syria and Iraq.

He will take some action on 'illegal immigrants'. But he will be restricted, due to the US economy requiring these people in farm and produce.
He will help to create an increase in Christian Nationalism. I don't know how openly he will support a rise in fascism.

All of these things, he will also be fomenting violence towards, as he will blame them for the reasons that he is not helping the working class in any of the areas they believed he would.
He will reimplement what was referred to as the "Trump Transit Ban". Meaning that all seeking asylum will be rejected without having their case heard.

He will reduce or end support and funding for Ukraine. And will engage with Putin as an ally.
He will attack NATO and the UN with 'sanctions' and with statements.

One of the biggest issues with the US border crisis is the processing of claims. That might cease because Trump will attempt to prevent all claims of asylum.


He will change the education, health and other public support systems to promote Christian nationalist positions and policy.
Not so much that he cares, but it's what the people with power want from him.
He will attempt to put massive tariffs on other countries, but I believe he will be talked out of it.
Or after seeing the almost instant damage done to the US, he will remove them.
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It meant to, but “In terms of budget funding, we’re secured. [Former President Joe] Biden's administration transferred all the funds under the ERA initiative [$50 billion] to the World Bank".

But the message to Putin is, that all he needs to do now is wait.
Ukraine cannot repel the invasion without US support. And the stalemate is over now, as Putin just needs to wait until the resources run out.

Ukraine won't stop fighting to survive. But they will now run out of resources, and be overrun.
Slaughtered.
 

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Oh? How many billions did they get?

But seriously, yeah that sounds pretty shit. Thoughts on Trump's memecoin scam mate?
Anyone whose dumb enough to buy a bitcoin called Trump deserves to be scammed.

The world cant protect stupid people from stupdiity im afraid

You can focus on this. Ill focus on the thousands of child lives saved by Trump organising a ceasefire....
 
No he didn't.

I hope this is correct, even if it means drug price reductions in the future are now uncertain.

Edit: re-reading this, it stops the trials that allow lower drug prices from being implemented this month (second model) so the drug price reductions due to start soon/immediately are impacted.

There seems no other reason to try and protect higher drug costs than protecting his Big Pharma donors.
 
I hope this is correct, even if it means drug price reductions in the future are now uncertain.

Edit: re-reading this, it stops the trials that allow lower drug prices from being implemented this month (second model) so the drug price reductions due to start soon/immediately are impacted.

There seems no other reason to try and protect higher drug costs than protecting his Big Pharma donors.
Gotta read that legislation more closer then that. They reducded drug prices for certain individiuals only. Absurd to pick people out. Make it fair for all, not for a few
 
I would like to formally congratulate Donald Trump on becoming the first female president of the United States of America
 
Gotta read that legislation more closer then that. They reducded drug prices for certain individiuals only. Absurd to pick people out. Make it fair for all, not for a few
'Certain individuals' = Medicaid and Medicare enrollees, the people who most need them?

It is still the axing of a program that was going to help millions of people in the immediate future, and potentially even more people in the medium and long term.
 
Now you're getting it :thumbsu:

ie. now what? **** all.

Well, except for mocking people who somehow want to pretend the thing on the left is nothing like the thing on the right, and that the richest and one of the smartest people on the planet honestly had no idea he might have been approximating what he was. That mocking should definitely continue :tearsofjoy:


You’d better let Elon know that that’s the rabbit hole he’s made you go down 🙂
 

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Anyone whose dumb enough to buy a bitcoin called Trump deserves to be scammed.

The world cant protect stupid people from stupdiity im afraid

You can focus on this. Ill focus on the thousands of child lives saved by Trump organising a ceasefire....

Bitcoin is bitcoin.

There are no Bitcoins called Trump... unless you personally name all your Bitcoins with different names.
 
That's a crime.

But is that what they did?
I'm not asking for 'found guilty in court', or 'obvious admissions' etc.

I'm asking you if you believe that's what they did, based on the information you've seen?

Indeed, they knowingly and deliberately put their name to suppress a story that would have had a material outcome on the election for that exact purpose.

How many of them do you believe received a pardon as Biden left? Actually, better question, how many do you think would have been appropriate to pardon?
 
I'm not saying you're using it with any intent or hidden meaning.

But do you know the history of the usage of that term? "Enemy of the people".
It's usage, reasons behind it etc.

I do not, I am using it directly as a description to people working against the interest of the people they serve. I notice you didn't argue the point that they were the enemy of the free press even a little bit - and I would argue that if you're against a free press you are against the people.
 
Indeed, they knowingly and deliberately put their name to suppress a story that would have had a material outcome on the election for that exact purpose.
Can I ask what you've seen or read that helped you reach that position?

And then. As you 'know' this, is there any possible outcome where they are investigated and found not guilty, that you would accept?


How many of them do you believe received a pardon as Biden left? Actually, better question, how many do you think would have been appropriate to pardon?
I don't think any.
I have been against the pardons, including pardoning Hunter Biden.
 
It's a very loaded term, worth looking into.
They are part of 'the people'. It's important not to just exclude portions or aspects of society and paint them a certain way that invokes fear and hate.

I notice you didn't argue the point that they were the enemy of the free press even a little bit
It's because I'm not agreeing with your position. My understanding of what happened is different to yours, so I don't believe they are an enemy of the free press.

and I would argue that if you're against a free press you are against the people.
I think you do believe that.
But that you would make excuses for it when it comes to Trump, or the Coalition etc.

When it comes to a free press, you will have conditions for it to be allowed.
For example, the ABC. You will have justifications as to why it's OK/Good to be against it. As you probably didn't consider it to be a free press. (gov funded, whatever).

Trump threatening journalists, news outlets, unfavourable polling etc. You'd support that as you view it's justified and that they are not a free press.

So it's hard for me to contend with your position about 'enemy of the people', and being against the free press being against the people.

Great example, is that you would support and finds reasons to justify this from 2017.
Trump calls the free press the enemy of the people.
https://apnews.com/united-states-government-be0f73d88547411a9a85e402d23788ed

President Donald Trump is continuing his attacks on the news media.​
Trump has taken to Twitter to slam “The FAKE NEWS media,” saying it “is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!”​
Trump specifically cited a series of news outlets, naming The New York Times, NBC, ABC, CBS and CNN.​
Trump has repeatedly accused the political press of being dishonest and suggested any negative coverage of his administration was “fake news.” His lengthy news conference Thursday was filled with media criticism.​


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Who decides who a free press are? The President?
 
Can I ask what you've seen or read that helped you reach that position?

And then. As you 'know' this, is there any possible outcome where they are investigated and found not guilty, that you would accept?



I don't think any.
I have been against the pardons, including pardoning Hunter Biden.

The house judiciary held an investigation into it and the event and the testimony of an individual named Michael Morell (former Deputy Director of the CIA) laid out not only that the intention of that statement signed by 51 intelligence linked individuals but that it was strategised in concert with the Biden campaign to assist Biden in winning the election.

If they were acting under orders from a superior I would believe them being not held liable for their actions, and if that person was pardoned then oh well.
 
The house judiciary and Michael Morell (former Deputy Director of the CIA) laid out that 51 intelligence individuals strategised to assist Biden in winning the election.
I've heavily edited your post, just removing some parts.

But is that overall what your position is?

The house judiciary held an investigation into it and the event and the testimony of an individual named Michael Morell (former Deputy Director of the CIA) laid out not only that the intention of that statement signed by 51 intelligence linked individuals but that it was strategised in concert with the Biden campaign to assist Biden in winning the election.

If they were acting under orders from a superior I would believe them being not held liable for their actions, and if that person was pardoned then oh well.
 
It's a very loaded term, worth looking into.
They are part of 'the people'. It's important not to just exclude portions or aspects of society and paint them a certain way that invokes fear and hate.

Nobody with a working brain looks at public servants acting outside of the interests of the people they serve as being a special victim group that needs protection, they need to be even more transparent.

It's because I'm not agreeing with your position. My understanding of what happened is different to yours, so I don't believe they are an enemy of the free press.

You didn't even challenge that statement until I called you on it.

I think you do believe that.
But that you would make excuses for it when it comes to Trump, or the Coalition etc.

I think you should have to provide examples of these things instead of assuming, or arguing a hypothetical against what I said.

If we can't agree that using the power of the state to suppress a story that would otherwise inform the people, the people as in the population of a nation/planet, before an election because you want to influence that election in your favor is against the idea of a free press and therefore against the people - a threat on democracy - then we may as well not bother with this discussion at all.
 
I've heavily edited your post, just removing some parts.

But is that overall what your position is?

My position is that the people involved in releasing the statement have given testimony that it was the intention of releasing the statement to influence the outcome of the election, literally working in concert with the Biden campaign.

I haven't even gotten into the FBI pushing sites like Facebook to restrict it on the basis of that letter to further suppress that free press and the informed people voting.

The testimony of that person admitted it. That is the foundation of why I believe what I do about it.
 
Nobody with a working brain looks at public servants acting outside of the interests of the people they serve as being a special victim group that needs protection, they need to be even more transparent.



You didn't even challenge that statement until I called you on it.



I think you should have to provide examples of these things instead of assuming, or arguing a hypothetical against what I said.

If we can't agree that using the power of the state to suppress a story that would otherwise inform the people, the people as in the population of a nation/planet, before an election because you want to influence that election in your favor is against the idea of a free press and therefore against the people - a threat on democracy - then we may as well not bother with this discussion at all.
You've not taken my post the way I meant it.

I'm not sure how to better put it across, but your reply isn't connected to what I was meaning to convey.


If we can't agree that using the power of the state to suppress a story that would otherwise inform the people, the people as in the population of a nation/planet, before an election because you want to influence that election in your favor is against the idea of a free press and therefore against the people - a threat on democracy - then we may as well not bother with this discussion at all.
We agree on that.
What we don't agree on is who, where and how it actually happened.

So it's not that I'm disagree on what is or isn't a threat to democracy, or what is done to influence elections.
I'm disagreeing that there was a conspiracy to influence the election, based on the available information.

In October 2020, both Twitter and Facebook implemented measures on their platforms to prevent sharing of the New York Post article. Twitter first deprecated the story (prevented its algorithm from highlighting it due to its popularity) but eventually banned links to the story from being posted.[39] It did so according to its Hacked Materials Policy and Facebook per a policy that "in many countries, including in the US, if we have signals that a piece of content is false, we temporarily reduce its distribution pending review by a third-party fact-checker".[116][117][118]​
Facebook's decision had been informed by an FBI warning to watch for disinformation spread by foreign actors.[119] The Hill reported on the Facebook action, "it is unclear what "signals" triggered the limit on the New York Post article".[116] Twitter briefly locked Trump's presidential campaign Twitter account for sharing a controversial Hunter Biden video earlier on October 15. The account was unlocked later that day.[120] Between October 14 and 23, the original New York Post story received over 54 million Facebook views.[121]​
 
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