US Election 2020: President Elect Biden and VP Elect Harris

[Chief]

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US Election 2020: President Biden and VP Harris - The Aftermath

Now we have most of the main players confirmed its time to start the thread on this Pence I assume will be Trumps VP - but I will leave the ? until confirmed https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20210120T09&p0=900&msg=Inauguration+2021&font=sanserif

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[Ghost Patrol]

Yup, it was obvious that Kamala was the establishment's choice when they wheeled out Hillary to make the absurd claim that Tulsi was a Russian spy after this event.

Now they've found a back door to getting her elected: stick her as VP and have Joe retire due to "unexpected health complications" one month into his presidency.

Interesting that the "defund the police" type einsteins may wind up voting a cop into the Oval Office

I have yet to see any donations to police, from people that say they want to fund them.

Put your jobseeker money where your mouth is.

 

[Ants]

I will give this a proper response later when I have time to dig a bit further, but there's evidence out there of ballots being sent to deceased people or even pets.

I fully accept that at least part of the GOPs reason for opposing mail ballots is an unscrupulous attempt at voter suppression, but that does not mean that they don't have a point regarding election integrity too.

And I'll look forward to the response. To be clear, I accept that there are probably the odd anomalous screw up. But if there are 20 people across the USA and 10 pets, that ain't going to shift an election. The last election was considered knife edge, but it still needed 10,000 votes across just 3 states to have changed the result. So to have an effect voter fraud would need to be in the thousands (if not the tens of thousands) and concentrated in certain areas.

I would hope we could both agree that if mail voting is not-fraudulent, that during a health pandemic that it would be safer for citizens to vote from home? Hell, if its safe, then given the barriers to voting in the USA (limited booths, no time off work, on a work day) that it should be encouraged anyway?

 

[GreyCrow]

Thoughts to the Trump family on the loss of a brother and uncle

 

[Balls In]

Yup, it was obvious that Kamala was the establishment's choice when they wheeled out Hillary to make the absurd claim that Tulsi was a Russian spy after this event.

Now they've found a back door to getting her elected: stick her as VP and have Joe retire due to "unexpected health complications" one month into his presidency.

Interesting that the "defund the police" type einsteins may wind up voting a cop into the Oval Office

What Tulsi did was so much more than just eviscerate Kamala. She was articulating a full rebuild of the democrats to move them away from the toxic US foreign policy cabal derived through the establishment Clinton, Bush and Obama era's. Away from the forever wars and corrupt elites cozying up to tyrants to line their own pockets. She was the only one in that whole shitshow to call a spade a spade. Of course they called her Trump-lite and a traitor but what do you expect?

 

[Balls In]

Trump as President should face the media every day - or at least regularly

Why does Biden need to?

Really? You really want to know why Biden needs to be scrutinised?

 

[Crankyhawk]

What specifics are you after? Biden is locked away and refuses to answer any questions that aren't scripted or read off a teleprompter. He hasn't even managed that without screwing it up. Meanwhile Trump faces the media every day. Yes or no?

I don’t know. You are the one asserting it. Trump answers some questions and is selective about others - is the issue that the media is not trying to ask Biden and Harris questions? Media goes for the entertainment and the eyeballs, not information, so trump is always going to give them better value.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Really? You really want to know why Biden needs to be scrutinised?

I want to know what questions you want. Suspect some about hunter and his company yes?

 

[Balls In]

I want to know what questions you want. Suspect some about hunter and his company yes?

Yep. And how much his green new deal is going to cost? Why was he using the FBI to spy on Trumps campaign? Does he support defunding police and if not, whats he going to do about democrat cities that already are? Is he going to cozy back up to China? Is he going to re-enter the middle east?

 

[Balls In]

I don’t know. You are the one asserting it. Trump answers some questions and is selective about others - is the issue that the media is not trying to ask Biden and Harris questions? Media goes for the entertainment and the eyeballs, not information, so trump is always going to give them better value.

Mate there's plenty of people willing to ask Joe some real questions. He is just avoiding them. Its weak.

 

[GreyCrow]

Really? You really want to know why Biden needs to be scrutinised?

He has a long record that should already have been scrutinised.

Why does he need to face the media everyday?

 

[GreyCrow]

Do you think Donald will be invited to funeral, give a touching eulogy etc?

I hope he can. It would be the worst thing not being able to attend a funeral of a close family member

If you wish to politicise a death of a family member I cant help you

 

[Not Important]

He has a long record that should already have been scrutinised.

Why does he need to face the media everyday?

it's also sensible to keep a lowish profile at present while trump self destructs.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Yep. And how much his green new deal is going to cost? Why was he using the FBI to spy on Trumps campaign? Does he support defunding police and if not, whats he going to do about democrat cities that already are? Is he going to cozy back up to China? Is he going to re-enter the middle east?

I think these are good questions. I had thought one of the usual means of politics was the use of agencies to spy on opposition (the key is do not get caught).
I doubt that he will be defunding police (Harris in a way helps that perception) which I think means the momentum for defunding will collapse when Biden gets in (they cannot blame a president from the other side)- remember its all partisan shit in the USA

 

[Crankyhawk]

it's also sensible to keep a lowish profile at present while trump self destructs.

Can backfire if it comes across as avoidant (which it appears to for the trump supporters but these aren’t the voters Biden would ever get).

 

[oogac]

Thoughts to the Trump family on the loss of a brother and uncle

Covid????

 

[iBeng]

Covid????

They'll likely never confirm the actual cause of death. Wouldnt look good for Trump if it was Covid.

 

[FireKrakouer]

Trump as President should face the media every day - or at least regularly

Why does Biden need to?

This is surely not serious? These campaigns are like job interviews - for one of the most powerful positions on earth, no less. And you don't think the Dem candidate needs to face scrutiny

 

[Ghost Patrol]

They'll likely never confirm the actual cause of death. Wouldnt look good for Trump if it was Covid.

He could blame the Chyna virus, now it's personal type of rhetoric.

 

[darrenmorgan]

 

[Crankyhawk]

This is surely not serious? These campaigns are like job interviews - for one of the most powerful positions on earth, no less. And you don't think the Dem candidate needs to face scrutiny

What was scrutiny like on trump in 2016 and (probably better comparison) Romney in 2012

 

[Crankyhawk]

Wtf?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

This is surely not serious? These campaigns are like job interviews - for one of the most powerful positions on earth, no less. And you don't think the Dem candidate needs to face scrutiny

Biden has released his tax returns.

Until Trump does the same, Biden gets a free pass.

 

[Balls In]

I had thought one of the usual means of politics was the use of agencies to spy on opposition (the key is do not get caught).

Mate! Open your eyes. America and the west have been in steady decline since the Reagan era. Right through the Bush, Clinton and Obama dynasty's and they all had the same foreign policies. Then this outsider comes in and they spy on him and then when elected they try to tear him down twice using fabricated/dubious evidence. Meanwhile he's dragged them out of forever wars, brokered peace deals in the middle east and taken on China... and all the while the US economy starts hitting peak everything (pre covid).

Now they put up a deep dive establishment ticket with a proxy candidate who they have hidden away in a basement (because he is senile and has more baggage than a freight train). Their whole election campaign is premised on the establishment media attacking Trump 24/7, professional riotors causing anarchy in the streets and a health and economic crisis that had its origins in China. No questions worth asking here....

 

[Crankyhawk]

Mate! Open your eyes. America and the west have been in steady decline since the Reagan era. Right through the Bush, Clinton and Obama dynasty's and they all had the same foreign policies. Then this outsider comes in and they spy on him and then when elected they try to tear him down twice using fabricated/dubious evidence. Meanwhile he's dragged them out of forever wars, brokered peace deals in the middle east and taken on China... and all the while the US economy starts hitting peak everything (pre covid).

Now they put up a deep dive establishment ticket with a proxy candidate who they have hidden away in a basement (because he is senileand has more baggage than a freight train). Their whole election campaign is premised on the establishment media attacking Trump 24/7, professional riotors causing anarchy in the streets and a health and economic crisis that had its origins in China. No questions worth asking here....

Tin foil hat might be a bit too tight there.

 

[Balls In]

Tin foil hat might be a bit too tight there.

Caught red handed spying on Trump. Tried to tear him from power twice. Fact.