Recruiting Trade/Draft Talk III - Zaharakis for a SIG BET?

[WEEVZ]

I have Simpkin going before our pick 20 along with Scheer but Scheer suits our list needs for a young inside mid

Fair enough, I suppose if he's available we should have a crack.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Yeah, that's one I forgot. Sorry my views may not be popular but would like some feedback

I'm not sure it's worth getting high on Hawthorn's work this period, they basically traded their two best midfielders and out of two drafts for someone who was the fourth best at his club and someone coming off two ACL injuries. Wait and see.

Also I dispute that Dodoro has failed with top 10 picks, unlucky with injury but all of them have been AFL standard, 50% of them elite. He built us to a finals side only for Dank and Hird to waste it.

 

[scanlon]

I think it was pretty well known that sheedy used to have last day on who we drafted while he was still head coach. Ever since the retirement of sheeds, dodoro seems to have started nailing a lot more picks. Strike rate has been so good over the past 5 or so years

 

[onthemove77]

I'm not sure it's worth getting high on Hawthorn's work this period, they basically traded their two best midfielders and out of two drafts for someone who was the fourth best at his club and someone coming off two ACL injuries. Wait and see.

Also I dispute that Dodoro has failed with top 10 picks, unlucky with injury but all of them have been AFL standard, 50% of them elite. He built us to a finals side only for Dank and Hird to waste it.

You make some fair points but dodo from 2001 till 2014 didn't build a list to challenge for a flag that's 13 years????

 

[Seagrave_Holmes]

Wish list
#1. McGrath
#20. Berry/Simpkin/Battle
#29. Clarke/Drew
#41. ???

Any suggestions for our pick 41 if we use it?

 

[onthemove77]

You make some fair points but dodo from 2001 till 2014 didn't build a list to challenge for a flag that's 13 years????

Ohh and leroy Jetta

 

[Red Black and Blue]

You make some fair points but dodo from 2001 till 2014 didn't build a list to challenge for a flag that's 13 years????

Like Scanlon said Sheedy dictated for a while. Then I think he built a side that would be challenging right now if not for the saga.

Also I think it takes ages to build a premiership side, 5 years from the day you draft someone before they become the player you envisioned. Then you probably need three years worth of players to execute your plan. That's eight years, most people don't even have a job long enough to see out the execution.

You can get lucky and draft some generational players like Bontempelli or Franklin that can propel you but to build for a sustained period of success is a slow process all about constant improvement and setting standards.

 

[Phone]

Would still like to nab Xavier Richards in the PSD if possible

If they do go with a delisted player in the PSD, I'd like a midfielder, so maybe Barlow

 

[Tippa43]

Wish list
#1. McGrath
#20. Berry/Simpkin/Battle
#29. Clarke/Drew
#41. ???

Any suggestions for our pick 41 if we use it?

Jack Graham

 

[onthemove77]

Like Scanlon said Sheedy dictated for a while. Then I think he built a side that would be challenging right now if not for the saga.

Also I think it takes ages to build a premiership side, 5 years from the day you draft someone before they become the player you envisioned. Then you probably need three years worth of players to execute your plan. That's eight years, most people don't even have a job long enough to see out the execution.

You can get lucky and draft some generational players like Bontempelli or Franklin that can propel you but to build for a sustained period of success is a slow process all about constant improvement and setting standards.

Speedy coached and win flags in 3 different decades, but check who his list manager was for those flags. Not dodo.

 

[WEEVZ]

If they do go with a delisted player in the PSD, I'd like a midfielder, so maybe Barlow

Too old, need a guy who can come up with the rest of our players.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Speedy coached and win flags in 3 different decades, but check who his list manager was for those flags. Not dodo.

Times have changed though, the game has reached a level of professionalism and tactics Sheedy never really experienced and he started to struggle at even a standard below. Partially why we've gone through a decade of mediocreness was an inability and lack of desire to do the long rebuild. Too much hubris from old heads with unrealistic expectations.

 

[caboose]

In case anyone missed this from the great man (and apologies if already posted):

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/video/2016-10-20/btv-trade-wrap-with-adrian-dodoro

Not sure how much of it is designed to throw other clubs off the scent ... but he says the list management staff are still "open-minded" about #1 and there are obviously "a couple" to choose from.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Wish list
#1. McGrath
#20. Berry/Simpkin/Battle
#29. Clarke/Drew
#41. ???

Any suggestions for our pick 41 if we use it?

Parfitt/Stengle/Graham/Larkey

 

[DraftMe]

Wish list
#1. McGrath
#20. Berry/Simpkin/Battle
#29. Clarke/Drew
#41. ???

Any suggestions for our pick 41 if we use it?

Zac Fisher or Brandan Parfitt, a couple of genuinely good footballers who are small but play with a lot of energy.

Kym LeBois if we want a quick, agile and skilled crumbing forward. Also a relative of the Davey's.

 

[WEEVZ]

In case anyone missed this from the great man:

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/video/2016-10-20/btv-trade-wrap-with-adrian-dodoro

Not sure how much of it is designed to throw other clubs off the scent ... but he says the list management staff are still "open-minded" about #1 and there are obviously "a couple" to choose from.

Definitely cloak and dagger at this point, the other week he was saying he has a pretty clear idea of who he wants to pick in the draft.

 

[caboose]

Definitely cloak and dagger at this point, the other week he was saying he has a pretty clear idea of who he wants to pick in the draft.

Yep. But McGrath's stocks also improved quite a bit since then (at least in the mind of a lot of the public), to be fair.

 

[WEEVZ]

Yep. But McGrath's stocks also improved quite a bit since then (at least in the mind of a lot of the public), to be fair.

True, if we wanted McCluggage though for mine we'd seen all we'd needed to see. And who know's maybe the reason we got Stewart with such a late pick (Pick 77 is worth bugger all to GWS, has no points value) was maybe due to a handshake agreement that we'd let them take McGrath at Pick 2 or at least agree not to bid on Setterfield. On face value I dunno if that'd be deemed draft manipulation but surely it happens all the time?

 

[Great8]

Would still like to nab Xavier Richards in the PSD if possible

Would think guys like Richards and Barlow get picked up in the DFA trading period before the PSD

 

[caboose]

True, if we wanted McCluggage though for mine we'd seen all we'd needed to see. And who know's maybe the reason we got Stewart with such a late pick (Pick 77 is worth bugger all to GWS, has no points value) was maybe due to a handshake agreement that we'd let them take McGrath at Pick 2 or at least agree not to bid on Setterfield. On face value I dunno if that'd be deemed draft manipulation but surely it happens all the time?

Yeah, quite possibly. But who knows?

Like you, I can't really think of anything much more now that would be needed to make their decision.

They surely would have interviewed both of them fairly intensively at Etihad a couple of weeks ago as well.

 

[citizen-erased]

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I'm going through my next Phantom Draft and at the moment I have Clarke, Drew and Hayward still around at 29 it's a tough one to pick from

when you look at the draft now, it's a tough prediction on who takes who.
There are a lot of Non vic picks in the top 20 and I imagine some nervous clubs wondering about go home factors

If we take McGrath at 1, what are the next 9 picks in your view?

 

[WEEVZ]

Yeah, quite possibly. But who knows?

Like you, I can't really think of anything much more now that would be needed to make their decision.

They surely would have interviewed both of them fairly intensively at Etihad a couple of weeks ago as well.

Yeah as far as the top guys go I reckon he'd have seen all he'd needed to see before the combine even started, would've given him a better insight into who he likes in the 2nd round and beyond though.

 

[Zach Package]

Parfitt/Stengle/Graham/Larkey

Larkey doesn't get enough love.

Would have been really nice to have someone like him in the VFL this year

 

[quotemokc]

Dodoro could announce tomorrow who we are taking and it wouldn't change a thing.

We have pick 1, no matter what we may allude to with our pick there is nothing any team can do about it.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Larkey doesn't get enough love.

Seems like this year more than others in recent memory, people have focused heavily on performance rather than transferable AFL attributes.

He has clean disposal, good mobility and can clunk. The key defender trifecta.

Reckon Richmond should go for him with their 27.