Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[mattwa]

We aren't going anywhere picking up scrap players like Clark. Hit the draft for mids and KPD. Once those mids come through in the next 2 to 3 years we can then add the missing gaps via FA as we should be an attractive option with Darcy, Marra and Naughton being huge key pillars to get a flag with.

Darcy could literally be Gawn level good in 2 to 3 years he's unbelievable

 

[Scotch N Coke Monatore]

Hunter Clark would could be that mid. Not sure why he's not getting a game at saints unless injured or it's likely he doesn't fit Lyon's game plan.

Asked a Saints following friend, he said there is no polish or finesse to his game. A slam ball on boot as soon as he gets it type.

 

[Planet Dogs]

Assuming Bevo goes sometime around midseason I don't want to see the classic "play the kids" (with one exception).
Caleb, Jack, and Williams should be given the maximum opportunity to prove their worth. Play Caleb as an HHF. Try Jack down back. Leave Williams on the wing. This will optimise their trade value, or show the club the value of keeping them. It is the smart and ethical thing to do.

The exception is Duryea. I admire him but he would have little trade value. Cleary should be given the opportunity to cement this spot. He may not make it but at least we will know. If possible I would like to see Duryea stay with the club in a development role.

 

[geoffjennings79]

Assuming Bevo goes sometime around midseason

IF he and the club part ways, I doubt it would be that early, probably late- or post-season.

 

[Dogs Rule]

As much as it pains me, a lot of players that head to Geelong aren't doing it for money, they're doing it for culture and to win. Scott is that type of coach that will attract players purely on the winning / culture standpoint and it seems like a lot of them are happy to buy in at a lower dollar amount to rack up those wins.

You might be right, but I'm sure they get plenty of um, incentives, to go there. Doubt all this 'get me home' stuff is as innocent and as pure as it seems.

 

[Libbaaaa]

It is fun to joke about Geelong giving every player it recruits a couple of empty blocks of land in Armstrong Creek but they are just a fantastically run football club. Now the unfair advantage the dimensions of their ground give them, that is a different story.

 

[Ash1337]

Asked a Saints following friend, he said there is no polish or finesse to his game. A slam ball on boot as soon as he gets it type.

Sounds like early years Wallis. It took time for Wallis not to bang it on the boot. It can be coached out with time.

 

[VitalDread]

Jamarra posting he is currently having a meeting with his manager

Signed and Done Deal

 

[glenashley]

IF he and the club part ways, I doubt it would be that early, probably late- or post-season.

I agree.

But lose the next 2 games and that's probably enough for an early exit!

 

[Northern Dogs]

Jamarra posting he is currently having a meeting with his manager

Signed and Done Deal

Hope you're right about this. I'm still scarred from a post of yours from a few years back about a certain player (Nahas).

 

[The Inbetweener]

Jamarra posting he is currently having a meeting with his manager

Signed and Done Deal

Really hope it is more than 2 years.

 

[dogwatch]

Really hope it is more than 2 years.

Don't care so much about the duration. I just hope it's with us.

 

[Libbaaaa]

One thing I haven’t been a fan of during Power’s reign has been tacking on extra years to fringe players. Zero reason Baker, Poulter etc…. should have gotten anything except one year deals.

 

[lachy]

One thing I haven’t been a fan of during Power’s reign has been tacking on extra years to fringe players. Zero reason Baker, Poulter etc…. should have gotten anything except one year deals.

Cannot agree more. Throw Gards into the same discussion

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[Libbaaaa]

Cannot agree more. Throw Gards into the same discussion

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Gardner getting 3 was baffling, even if it’s on minimum wage.

 

[doggiesin08]

Cannot agree more. Throw Gards into the same discussion

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You almost have to laugh at Gardy having a contract through to the end of 2026 while finding himself so far down the pecking order (or development priority) for KPD that he’s been shifted into the ruck for Footscray.

 

[doggiesin08]

Gardner getting 3 was baffling, even if it’s on minimum wage.

Plus it was done in Feb’24 so basically a 4-year forward commitment.

 

[TiAn_]

You almost have to laugh at Gardy having a contract through to the end of 2026 while finding himself so far down the pecking order (or development priority) for KPD that he’s been shifted into the ruck for Footscray.

The funny thing is Busslinger looks at best 50/50 to stay and Keath will retire this year. So Gardner will likely be our backup for Jones & O’Donell from next year. With Jones probably retiring the year after. So I can rationalise that one a bit. The two year deals for cast offs I can’t really justify.

 

[Johnny_Dogg4]

considering the amount of picks we gave up for jamarra and darcy + lobb trade and 3 1st rounders for sanders. have we stuffed up? i feel the last 3 years have left us light in talent pool and we're forced to recruit scraps

 

[hatescaptcha]

considering the amount of picks we gave up for jamarra and darcy + lobb trade and 3 1st rounders for sanders. have we stuffed up? i feel the last 3 years have left us light in talent pool and we're forced to recruit scraps

I’d rather have Marra and Darcy than a bunch of late picks.

We should and can hit the draft hard the next few years and rebuild that young talent pretty quickly.


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[lachy]

considering the amount of picks we gave up for jamarra and darcy + lobb trade and 3 1st rounders for sanders. have we stuffed up? i feel the last 3 years have left us light in talent pool and we're forced to recruit scraps

This was primarily exacerbated by not continuing to turn over rookies and late picks to develop younger talent. Too many times we just shuffled rookies who on the whole never made it.

The terminology list cloggers was most appropriate for our use of the rookie system since 2017

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[Johnny_Dogg4]

I’d rather have Marra and Darcy than a bunch of late picks.

We should and can hit the draft hard the next few years and rebuild that young talent pretty quickly.


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This was primarily exacerbated by not continuing to turn over rookies and late picks to develop younger talent. Too many times we just shuffled rookies who on the whole never made it.

The terminology list cloggers was most appropriate for our use of the rookie system since 2017

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im not doubting their ability for 1 sec and they have potential to be great players. but its a team sport and look at geelong (they dont have many "top" players who are top picks) but rather a collective system + coaching

Geelong Playing List for 2022 - Draftguru

www.draftguru.com.au

vs

Western Bulldogs Playing List for 2023 - Draftguru

www.draftguru.com.au

most of our players outside 1st round draft have been inconsistent (excluding daniel, L jones,dale)

 

[Dog 36]

considering the amount of picks we gave up for jamarra and darcy + lobb trade and 3 1st rounders for sanders. have we stuffed up? i feel the last 3 years have left us light in talent pool and we're forced to recruit scraps

You had to take Marra and Darcy just had to

 

[Johnny_Dogg4]

You had to take Marra and Darcy just had to

yeh i know that...
what my point is and its the sanders pick swap, did we give up far too much especially what we have picked up in recent years with those picks we had (naughton, english, weightman) who contribute a lot to the team

• pick #10
• pick #17
• 2024 first round pick (Western Bulldogs) could be pick 7-9 this year

 

[blurst]

yeh i know that...
what my point is and its the sanders pick swap, did we give up far too much especially what we have picked up in recent years with those picks we had (naughton, english, weightman) who contribute a lot to the team

• pick #10
• pick #17
• 2024 first round pick (Western Bulldogs) could be pick 7-9 this year

We got Croft too (who would have swallowed up one of those 1sts).

Other clubs would envy our position. It’s very rare to have this many shots at the top end of the draft in a short period of time unless you’re an absolute basket case like North.

Plus you can’t ignore the fact Gags and Garcia are later picks now playing in the seniors