Mega Thread Trade and List Management discussion

[Pannalstaroz]

He's a bargain at twice the price. Wonder if we could involve him in the Griffen trade. He's just what GWS need

Austin on a one year $900k contract.

You read it first.

 

[igloo dweller]

again, just stoked the club has made the play for boyd. other clubs would have been sniffing over our carcass given last week's shitstorm. this gives big FU to the league. such a typical peter gordon move (even if he had nothing to do with it).

 

[cleveland]

Jono, but don't have a lot to do with him anymore. Wish it was Boyd though; would be bloody useful right now.

Yes it would haha

 

[goodcop badcop]

Restructuring and front-ending contracts.

Cheers. I wasn't aware you could restructure a contract, thought it was just set in stone once done. We could still pay Griffen's salary anyway I guess.

Austin on a one year $900k contract.

You read it first.

That can't be right, Austin's worth way more then that.

 

[Dry Rot]

He's a bargain at twice the price. Wonder if we could involve him in the Griffen trade. He's just what GWS need

BTW, I owe you a big apology.

Earlier this year, you kept on banging on about Patton coming to us, and I thought that was a fantastic pile of shit.

Well, it seems now we were in his ear, and after his knee we moved onto Boyd. Looks like you were right, and I was dead wrong.

Sorry about that.

 

[dergert]

I'd be more comfortable selling our club's kidneys for Boyd if we were to keep pick 6.

 

[wian]

I hope peter gordon threatens some more serious shit on GWS if we dont get a straight swap for Griff and Boyd....

U never know what he might have up his sleeve

 

[BRWB]

I hope peter gordon threatens some more serious shit on GWS if we dont get a straight swap for Griff and Boyd....

U never know what he might have up his sleeve

Surely Griffen and Boyd's managers will be brutalising GWS by now. Hope we hold firm.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

My trade hypothetical challenge for fellow Dogs supporters for the night.

Let's say GWS bite and agree to trade Boyd. I'm of the opinion that, while Boyd would add a lot to our club, we still desperately need to add a quality young KPD. The longer I think on this Boyd deal, the less I believe we come out of this with pick 6 on our hands, which means we are unlikely to be able to draft Jake Lever/Sam Durdin. The other KPD prospects that likely come into consideration in the top 20 are Hugh Goddard and Caleb Marchbank - both of which likely require a pick somewhere in the 10-20 range.

So, my challenge: come up with a three-way trade hypothetical that gets Griffen to the Giants, and Boyd - along with a pick that could theoretically get us one of Lever, Durdin, Goddard or Marchbank - to the Dogs - yet still appeases all parties.

Working on something myself but still a long way off.

 

[Pannalstaroz]

BTW, I owe you a big apology.

Earlier this year, you kept on banging on about Patton coming to us, and I thought that was a fantastic pile of shit.

Well, it seems now we were in his ear, and after his knee we moved onto Boyd. Looks like you were right, and I was dead wrong.

Sorry about that.

No worries. I have a little birdie. A little birdie who only tells me 0.001% of what he knows but some of it is good

 

[Dry Rot]

No worries. I have a little birdie. A little birdie who only tells me 0.001% of what he knows but some of it is good

Good. Cheers mate.

 

[Pannalstaroz]

BTW, I owe you a big apology.

Earlier this year, you kept on banging on about Patton coming to us, and I thought that was a fantastic pile of shit.

Well, it seems now we were in his ear, and after his knee we moved onto Boyd. Looks like you were right, and I was dead wrong.

Sorry about that.

Having now read a lot of your posts, I do really enjoy your views. may this be the start of a beautiful friendship.

 

[Barking Mad]

The only way I'd be adding pick 6 to the deal is if they wanted to swap their pick 7 (assuming they get it) for it

 

[Cori]

My trade hypothetical challenge for fellow Dogs supporters for the night.

Let's say GWS bite and agree to trade Boyd. I'm of the opinion that, while Boyd would add a lot to our club, we still desperately need to add a quality young KPD. The longer I think on this Boyd deal, the less I believe we come out of this with pick 6 on our hands, which means we are unlikely to be able to draft Jake Lever/Sam Durdin. The other KPD prospects that likely come into consideration in the top 20 are Hugh Goddard and Caleb Marchbank - both of which likely require a pick somewhere in the 10-20 range.

So, my challenge: come up with a three-way trade hypothetical that gets Griffen to the Giants, and Boyd - along with a pick that could theoretically get us one of Lever, Durdin, Goddard or Marchbank - to the Dogs - yet still appeases all parties.

Working on something myself but still a long way off.

It'd have to be something to do with Minson, Geelong and pick 14.

 

[immortalmike]

Having now read a lot of your posts, I do really enjoy your views. may this be the start of a beautiful friendship.

Once you accept that DR will say what DR says, then you'll find that 95% of the time he's pretty good value.
It took me a while but I actually look forward to his posts nowadays.

 

[Pannalstaroz]

Let's be honest. To get a generational tall power forward, we're paying overs and a 28yo AA mid isn't going to cut it. We'll lose 6. If we're really lucky we'll find a way of getting a teens pick in return but, TBH, I'm not that fussed about that. Getting Boyd in the door must remain the priority. The rest will take care of itself. You need to know, when you're negotiating, when enough's enough. If Dally and McCartney are able to not only pull it off but get a pick back in the teens or possibly 20s whilst losing 6, I'll be stoked because it's more than I think we'll get.

 

[VitalDread]

If we can't get a Boyd for Griffin trade going then I hope that PG turns to Griff and says "Congratulations, you get to be the highest paid VFL player of all time" even if it is out of extreme pettiness.

Gotta get that back-back flags

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Let's be honest. To get a generational tall power forward, we're paying overs and a 28yo AA mid isn't going to cut it. We'll lose 6. If we're really lucky we'll find a way of getting a teens pick in return but, TBH, I'm not that fussed about that. Getting Boyd in the door must remain the priority. The rest will take care of itself. You need to know, when you're negotiating, when enough's enough. If Dally and McCartney are able to not only pull it off but get a pick back in the teens or possibly 20s whilst losing 6, I'll be stoked because it's more than I think we'll get.

Agree Boyd is the priority, but I'm not convinced at the Griffen + 6 offer if nothing is coming back the other way.

More just an interesting exercise than anything of substance; I'm just curious.

 

[Jimmy#5]

My trade hypothetical challenge for fellow Dogs supporters for the night.

Let's say GWS bite and agree to trade Boyd. I'm of the opinion that, while Boyd would add a lot to our club, we still desperately need to add a quality young KPD. The longer I think on this Boyd deal, the less I believe we come out of this with pick 6 on our hands, which means we are unlikely to be able to draft Jake Lever/Sam Durdin. The other KPD prospects that likely come into consideration in the top 20 are Hugh Goddard and Caleb Marchbank - both of which likely require a pick somewhere in the 10-20 range.

So, my challenge: come up with a three-way trade hypothetical that gets Griffen to the Giants, and Boyd - along with a pick that could theoretically get us one of Lever, Durdin, Goddard or Marchbank - to the Dogs - yet still appeases all parties.

Working on something myself but still a long way off.

WB/GWS/Carlton

Dogs get Boyd from & pick 19 from GWS

GWS get Griff & pick 6 from Dogs plus pick 7 from Carlton.

Carlton get Jaksch, Whiley from GWS & Jones, Tutt & pick 25ish from Dogs (assuming we can get that by trading Coons + a 3rd rounder to NM or Ess).

Not sure if we're paying overs or if Carlton would be happy with that though...

Plus if we get Boyd I would like to hang onto Jones to see how he goes when not the #1 forward target.

 

[Dry Rot]

Let's be honest. To get a generational tall power forward, we're paying overs and a 28yo AA mid isn't going to cut it. We'll lose 6. If we're really lucky we'll find a way of getting a teens pick in return but, TBH, I'm not that fussed about that. Getting Boyd in the door must remain the priority. The rest will take care of itself. You need to know, when you're negotiating, when enough's enough. If Dally and McCartney are able to not only pull it off but get a pick back in the teens or possibly 20s whilst losing 6, I'll be stoked because it's more than I think we'll get.

Agree it will take pick 6, and if it comes off, then we plug a bloody big hole up forward.

What late teen or early 20s picks do GWS have? or, we also are pretty shaky with tall defenders. Is there anyone aside from Frost at FWS we might want?

 

[Some Idiot]

Let's be honest. To get a generational tall power forward, we're paying overs and a 28yo AA mid isn't going to cut it. We'll lose 6. If we're really lucky we'll find a way of getting a teens pick in return but, TBH, I'm not that fussed about that. Getting Boyd in the door must remain the priority. The rest will take care of itself. You need to know, when you're negotiating, when enough's enough. If Dally and McCartney are able to not only pull it off but get a pick back in the teens or possibly 20s whilst losing 6, I'll be stoked because it's more than I think we'll get.

A generational tall forward? Get back to me when he shows something. Jeremy Cameron is the only one who could claim they've even shown anywhere near potential to be a generational key forward. A player doesn't instantly become a superstar because he was drafted at pick 1.

Giving away a genuine superstar in Griffen for a relatively unknown quantity is a big win for the Giants and in all honesty we shouldn't be looking at giving anything more. I'm fairly certain we'll end up bending over and giving them more but I hold hope.

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Agree Boyd is the priority, but I'm not convinced at the Griffen + 6 offer if nothing is coming back the other way.

More just an interesting exercise than anything of substance; I'm just curious.

I'm seriously hoping we stand our ground.

Sick of being one of the League's punching bags.

 

[Dogsman16]

My trade hypothetical challenge for fellow Dogs supporters for the night.

Let's say GWS bite and agree to trade Boyd. I'm of the opinion that, while Boyd would add a lot to our club, we still desperately need to add a quality young KPD. The longer I think on this Boyd deal, the less I believe we come out of this with pick 6 on our hands, which means we are unlikely to be able to draft Jake Lever/Sam Durdin. The other KPD prospects that likely come into consideration in the top 20 are Hugh Goddard and Caleb Marchbank - both of which likely require a pick somewhere in the 10-20 range.

So, my challenge: come up with a three-way trade hypothetical that gets Griffen to the Giants, and Boyd - along with a pick that could theoretically get us one of Lever, Durdin, Goddard or Marchbank - to the Dogs - yet still appeases all parties.

Working on something myself but still a long way off.

Boyd + Haynes for Griffen + 6 + fringe/steak knives. If it has to be 26 so be it.

Upgrade our compo with Minson the only real chance we get into the first round again.

Think we should trade a 2 year stopgap in anycase, I'd be fine with Merrett on the cheap until we can work out another trade in later years or acquire a Free Agent.

Otherwise its McDonald at 27.

 

[Pannalstaroz]

Agree it will take pick 6, and if it comes off, then we plug a bloody big hole up forward.

What late teen or early 20s picks do GWS have? or, we also are pretty shaky with tall defenders. Is there anyone aside from Frost at FWS we might want?

I'm not sure, I don't know their back line well enough but is there some one gettable, not a Plowman or anyone they rate really highly, but another? That could be the answer. What about Curtly Hampton? Had a nightmare against us the last round, can't be rated that highly, seems to be athletic and can kick it. He might be one to look at.

 

[Pannalstaroz]

A generational tall forward? Get back to me when he shows something. Jeremy Cameron is the only one who could claim they've even shown anywhere near potential to be a generational key forward. A player doesn't instantly instantly become a superstar because he was drafted at pick 1.

Giving away a genuine superstar in Griffen for a relatively unknown quantity is a big win for the Giants and in all honesty we shouldn't be looking at giving anything more. I'm fairly certain we'll end up bending over and giving them more but I hold hope.

Wow