Confirmed Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)

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Hawks Send Pick 10(ish) & F1 to WCE for Barass and Pick 23.

This gives WCE 2 first round picks this year and next and it gives HAW 2 x second round picks this year, Barass and a 2nd round pick next year. DGB and 3 round picks to smooth out any imbalance either side may have.
I think west coast will want as many picks as possible this year, we have a big crew out of contract who we likely delist and need to replace. If im west coast im looking to have at least 4-5 picks before 40ish where a bid for out NGA kid will likely come. Getting 2 current year picks for Barrass brings us to 4, and id still be chasing more.

I think we will want to keep pick 23 because of this
 

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I think west coast will want as many picks as possible this year, we have a big crew out of contract who we likely delist and need to replace. If im west coast im looking to have at least 4-5 picks before 40ish where a bid for out NGA kid will likely come. Getting 2 current year picks for Barrass brings us to 4, and id still be chasing more.

I think we will want to keep pick 23 because of this
If that is the case it should really be simply first and second this year and be done with it.
 
Coming around to the first one with our improved end to the season.

Would draw the line before the second
I shouldve clarified, thats contingent on the Hawks not going too far into September, ideally out in the first week. Any further and itd have to be looked at again
 
I shouldve clarified, thats contingent on the Hawks not going too far into September, ideally out in the first week. Any further and itd have to be looked at again
Not sure second week would change it too much, if we were to make a prelim i guess maybe you then look at it differently. However an extremely inexperienced finals team that hasn't even got locked in to them yet has me thinking that is probably a bit of a stretch to make it that far.
 
I'll be sure to enjoy the horrified faces on the Hawthorn supporters then.

I’d be surprised if it’s more than pick one this year.. that was too much before Hawks ascent up the ladder.. Probably more reasonable now for a player the eagles are open to leaving. The Eagles probably need the pick for the Baker trade so should happen early..Would make sense for Denver to be involved as a token gesture given he’s going to be further down the pecking order..


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I’d be surprised if it’s more than pick one this year.. that was too much before Hawks ascent up the ladder.. Probably more reasonable now for a player the eagles are open to leaving. The Eagles probably need the pick for the Baker trade so should happen early..Would make sense for Denver to be involved as a token gesture given he’s going to be further down the pecking order..


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You couldn't have been more wrong if you tried...
 

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Tom Mitchell.
Hmm okay but that was a situation where the selling side was very keen for the move

We are defintly not keen for this move. I think its more of a Lachie Schultz situation. Freo had him under contract, were not keen on him leaving so Collingwood paid overs

Schultz went for 2nd rounder and future 1st..... I think Barass is better then Schulz yeah ?
 
it is becoming a delicate situation. After you factor in Academy picks etc., Hawthorn's first rounder is going to fall at about 21 or even 22.
that won't get the deal done.
future first? even though it's probably going to be 18 (even lower after academies etc) it is still too much to trade this year's F1 (pick 21) and next years F1 (18 + whatever) for Barrass.
I think a player might be involved.
anyway, history tells us the deal will get done.
 
history tells us the deal will get done.
Don't be so sure last year Smith requested a trade to us but WB weren't interested so nothing got done. We did put in an offer but once rejected we respected that and all parties moved on. This situation sounds like it will could be very similar.
 
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Don't be so sure last year Smith requested a trade to us but WB weren't interested so nothing got done.
This didn’t happen.

Dogs thought it would happen, but it didn’t happen.
 
it is becoming a delicate situation. After you factor in Academy picks etc., Hawthorn's first rounder is going to fall at about 21 or even 22.
that won't get the deal done.
future first? even though it's probably going to be 18 (even lower after academies etc) it is still too much to trade this year's F1 (pick 21) and next years F1 (18 + whatever) for Barrass.
I think a player might be involved.
anyway, history tells us the deal will get done.
It certainly doesnt. Many times it hasnt been. McCarthy/Papley/Kelly some good recent examples Hickey put in a trade request, we kept him a extra season and then traded him the following year for Eagles
 
It certainly doesnt. Many times it hasnt been. McCarthy/Papley/Kelly some good recent examples Hickey put in a trade request, we kept him a extra season and then traded him the following year for Eagles
Difference is that those sides could afford to hold onto players, as they weren’t in desperate need to get picks in before a bunch of drafts with concessions to a new side were given.

Eagles hold Barass and they slow down their attempt at a rebuild.
 
This didn’t happen.

Dogs thought it would happen, but it didn’t happen.
Looks like I was hooked in by trade radio once again. Those blokes really know how to milk every ounce.
 
Difference is that those sides could afford to hold onto players, as they weren’t in desperate need to get picks in before a bunch of drafts with concessions to a new side were given.

Eagles hold Barass and they slow down their attempt at a rebuild.

Why would Tassie coming into the comp in 4 years have any bearing on the Eagles drafts in 2024, 2025 and 2026? By the time Tassie comes into the competition the Eagles rebuild will be over.

Barrass also isn't our only option to trade out to generate more picks this draft.
 
I’d be surprised if it’s more than pick one this year.. that was too much before Hawks ascent up the ladder.. Probably more reasonable now for a player the eagles are open to leaving. The Eagles probably need the pick for the Baker trade so should happen early..Would make sense for Denver to be involved as a token gesture given he’s going to be further down the pecking order..


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Any West Coast player thinking we are getting 2 1st rounders is going to be disappointed (the only caveat perhaps being if you make it to the prelims, with something coming back).

I highly doubt though that whichever 1st is involved is going for Baker when we are wanting draft picks to rebuild. I do want Baker however, would be a great get. But I think we will try to get Baker on the cheaper end (our version of cheap, not the Port Adelaide version). Possibly though the inflating of Graham's compensation..
 

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Confirmed Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)

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