Toby Greene makes contact with umpire - Update: Suspension Increased to 6 weeks on Appeal

[Gratees]

If it’s judged like a Selwood : the intent was there but no injury- ( or in this case no apparent contact .....I’m still not convinced) then he will get off .
His intent was intimidating and there is no way you pull that sh*t on umpires .
They get a bad wrap but jeez what they do is bloody difficult.

Problem is the system is so ****ed its hard to tell how they role, Because he didnt make contact, but it was intimidating, But a player like selwood would get off, but Toby Greene past record.

 

[matthew_s]

Reality denial syndrome.

amazing how ichabod knobhead has disappeared

 

[GNFNR]

So if Toby threw a punch and the ump saw it coming and dodged it - that’s ok coz he didn’t make contact?

just curious because it looked to me like he truly tried to shoulder/intimidate the ump, or at the very least lost his temper and thought “**** you, I’m going to walk right through you”.

if the Ump instinctively pulled himself out of the way at the last minute, it doesnt reduce the intent of what went on.

 

[Gratees]

So if Toby threw a punch and the ump saw it coming and dodged it - that’s ok coz he didn’t make contact?

just curious because it looked to me like he truly tried to shoulder/intimidate the ump, or at the very least lost his temper and thought “fu** you, I’m going to walk right through you”.

if the Ump instinctively pulled himself out of the way at the last minute, it doesnt reduce the intent of what went on.

We've seen plenty of evidence in the past of Outcome being more important then Action.

 

[GNFNR]

Very true “outcome rather than intent” has driven the MRP results for a long time! So it’s a big tossup as to what will happen. The AFL has the room to manufacture whatever result they want.

 

[Gratees]

Very true “outcome rather than intent” has driven the MRP results for a long time! So it’s a big tossup as to what will happen. The AFL has the room to manufacture whatever result they want.

Yep, And as far as i see it. Toby = Suspension

 

[Madas]

Exactly

Has the ARC reviewed the footage to see if he was touched ?

 

[Shane Heard]

Has the ARC reviewed the footage to see if he was touched ?

****ed if I know

 

[blitzer]

An interesting one. Given Greene basically made absolutely zero attempt to avoid contact with the umpire (who tried pretty hard to avoid all contact). On the other hand the contact was extremely minor/non existent and wasn't super aggressive. More like low key intimidation i guess.

Who knows what they'll do, but I do know Greene puts himself in these situations all the time, you can't pretend he's the victim here. A smarter/more self controlled person would have simply not tried to walk through the umpire.

 

[Madas]

f’ed if I know

It was a joke

 

[Orange Agent]

Grading?

It's how the MRO comes up with their charges.

 

[VL3OJ]

He approached Stevic like a North Richmond safe injecting room client approaches the deposit counter in the local Cash Converters

Whilst Stevic was stationary, Greene was walking quickly, animated and pointing towards Stevic. Even this could elicit 18.8.1 "Umpires shall be protected from unreasonable contact and behaviour whilst performing their duties. "

The contact is inconsequential due only to Stevic avoiding the impact however impact did take place. Four to six weeks and immediate removal from the hub back to Sydney so he can't slip into Victoria.

What surprises me is that not one team mate attempted to intervene.

 

[Whiskers]

Last second moves by both umpire and Greene to avoid contact. The slo mo shows no shoulder bump but doesn’t show if there was or wasn’t at least slight contact.
Umpire will have his say, might say there was no contact but the umpire should not have to move like that to avoid an aggressive player arguing with and intimidating them.
Will be a fascinating week ahead.

 

[scottyt2]

Whilst Stevic was stationary, Greene was walking quickly, animated and pointing towards Stevic. Even this could elicit 18.8.1 "Umpires shall be protected from unreasonable contact and behaviour whilst performing their duties. "

None of this is true

 

[deanc]

Ch7 blowing this up like Toby shot Kennedy, he just clipped the umpire, it's a fine at worst.

Depiction of the Greene/Umpire 'contact' Ch7 are portraying:

 

[VL3OJ]

None of this is true

Exhibit A Scotty from Marketing

 

[theyellowsash]

Hey if we slow it down a bit more - they're not even moving!

Technically, from a physics standpoint, theres always a space between atoms, so Toby never technically touched anyone

 

[theyellowsash]

yeah, total impact while attempting to walk through him.

now you’re just trolling

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Some camera angles shorten the distance (actors are never close to the explosion they’re diving to safety from) Other angles show more clearly the actual distance between to people.

not even close

Total Toby Beat Up

Lol this is literally a photo from a few seconds later. Are you actually stupid?

 

[theyellowsash]

So if Toby threw a punch and the ump saw it coming and dodged it - that’s ok coz he didn’t make contact?

just curious because it looked to me like he truly tried to shoulder/intimidate the ump, or at the very least lost his temper and thought “fu** you, I’m going to walk right through you”.

if the Ump instinctively pulled himself out of the way at the last minute, it doesnt reduce the intent of what went on.

Was gonna post this exact thing but no need to, this is perfectly put.

 

[Purple Suit]

Just saw a diff angle and not even sure he touched the umpire. One angle looks bad but in reality a fine at worst

Yep,
People losing their minds over an optical illusion. They must think that someone can hold up the leaning tower of Pisa with their hand.

 

[Back One Out]

Last second moves by both umpire and Greene to avoid contact. The slo mo shows no shoulder bump but doesn’t show if there was or wasn’t at least slight contact.
Umpire will have his say, might say there was no contact but the umpire should not have to move like that to avoid an aggressive player arguing with and intimidating them.
Will be a fascinating week ahead.

 

[master bate]

No one is suggesting the game becomes rugby union. Yes sir, no sir etc.

But players are clearly crossing the line more and more with umps.

Razor Ray seems to be the only one who isn't afraid of paying a 50 or free kick against for abuse.

 

[PorcelainBus]

Green is a tool - why???? would you put yourself at risk like this? Obviously intentional (shakes head) what idiocy . . .

 

[Shane Heard]

He approached Stevic like a North Richmond safe injecting room client approaches the deposit counter in the local Cash Converters

Whilst Stevic was stationary, Greene was walking quickly, animated and pointing towards Stevic. Even this could elicit 18.8.1 "Umpires shall be protected from unreasonable contact and behaviour whilst performing their duties. "

The contact is inconsequential due only to Stevic avoiding the impact however impact did take place. Four to six weeks and immediate removal from the hub back to Sydney so he can't slip into Victoria.

What surprises me is that not one team mate attempted to intervene.

an excellent summary of the whole sordid affair

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

It's how the MRO comes up with their charges.

For contact with an umpire??

That's bizarre.