WSYD "This is showing the AFL we've got some cannons of our own to blow them away"

[Redb#]

What's odds on the NRL folding in 10 years?

It's a disorganised rabble of a code with an awful product, a disinterested public and the worst culture problems in Australian sport.

What odds anyone would care if it did?

The NRL betting and match fixing scandal (Tandy) is about to drop a giant **** on Gallop's desk.

The NRL types gloating about the AFL's off field issues area are about to have it shuvved right up 'em. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of people.

We have some ******** players in the AFL, but match fixing cuts at the core of the integrity of the whole NRL comp.

 

[the distributer]

No they haven't, the Storm have been making a profit and when they don't, it's only a couple 100k below.

You might like to read this before posting again.

Because, for all of its onfield success, the Storm franchise is a failure. Melbourne has been haemorrhaging money at a rate that has only recently become clear. They have a tiny, if devoted, fan base which is not large enough to sustain the club. They have not been successful in attracting the media’s, sponsors’ or the public’s interest in Melbourne to the degree where they can be financially viable. They are kept alive by the largesse of News Limited. And now that News is pulling out of the game, Melbourne expects the other clubs to continue to help it win premierships at their expense.
As the books have been opened in the process of forming the independent commission, from the other 15 clubs there has been a collective: “Eh? Come again?”

Melbourne, with such deep pockets for players, coaches, staff and facilities, has been living beyond its means to the tune of about $6 million a year. News — which derives some of its income from the fans who subscribe to pay-TV and go to games — has been covering those losses. The main sticking point in the move towards an independent club-owned commission has been Melbourne holding out its hand asking everyone else to keep covering its losses and funding its success.


http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/03/31/try-as-they-might-no-news-ltd-means-no-melbourne-storm/

 

[Brock Machine]

No they haven't, the Storm have been making a profit and when they don't, it's only a couple 100k below.

After News poor a shed load of money into them. What if they pull the pin? When the commission comes in what interest do they have in continuing to prop up a competition they no longer control?

With the Rebel's coming in, their market is going to be more fractured. How many bolted on paid up members do the storm have anyway? London to a brick it isn't enough to keep them afloat.

 

[Pie eyed]

Not 100% sure if it's going to happen, but word has it News wants out of club ownership (citing conflict of interest) as well as losing a whole bunch of money.

News wants out of NRL because being the producer and financier of Kerrie Anne (NRL) precludes you from bidding for OPRAH (AFL).
At it's heart News Limited is there to make money. Sustaining a failed media take-over of a sport which precludes you from any chance of profiting from one which is burgeoning is sucking the life blood from the network.

Hope they both go broke (News and NRL) so we cn get update on the Community Billboard sections of the regional media. I mean apart from the scores for footy tipping and betting purposes who really gives a **** what happened in an NRL game? Big, illiterate, redneck blokes ran into each other for a fair bit in between resting in a scrum, then it ended.

Thrilling stuff.

 

[the distributer]

News wants out of NRL because being the producer and financier of Kerrie Anne (NRL) precludes you from bidding for OPRAH (AFL).
At it's heart News Limited is there to make money. Sustaining a failed media take-over of a sport which precludes you from any chance of profiting from one which is burgeoning is sucking the life blood from the network.

Hope they both go broke (News and NRL) so we cn get update on the Community Billboard sections of the regional media. I mean apart from the scores for footy tipping and betting purposes who really gives a **** what happened in an NRL game? Big, illiterate, redneck blokes ran into each other for a fair bit in between resting in a scrum, then it ended.

Thrilling stuff.

I once saw a league player pass the ball behind his back to a running player who broke a tackle and ran over some line, it was the highlight of the decade apparantly.

 

[Sebastian Balboa]

The NRL betting and match fixing scandal (Tandy) is about to drop a giant **** on Gallop's desk.

The NRL types gloating about the AFL's off field issues area are about to have it shuvved right up 'em. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of people.

We have some ******** players in the AFL, but match fixing cuts at the core of the integrity of the whole NRL comp.

Apparently, on the current LU leaderboard we're 10-1 ahead.

(AFL: 10 shocking off-field dramas to the NRL's 1. Yes, they're keeping a tally... Sad, but true.)

 

[zero]

Apparently, on the current LU leaderboard we're 10-1 ahead.

(AFL: 10 shocking off-field dramas to the NRL's 1. Yes, they're keeping a tally... Sad, but true.)

whats the score if sticking your erect penis into a dog carries a x10 multiplier?

 

[Sebastian Balboa]

whats the score if sticking your erect penis into a dog carries a x10 multiplier?

Haha, good call!

I think the 10:1 'score' is to do with the off-season, but who knows, they suck dead dogs' dicks, well, maybe not dead dogs...

 

[Castres Treize]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...for-law-breaches/story-e6frg6nf-1225857630482

Despite the current uproar, Melbourne Storm's latest accounts reveal the embattled club to be in a sound financial position, having turned its previous year's $967,000 loss into a $1.6 million profit.

The club's recent success in the National Rugby League, including two premierships in the past three years, has obviously started flowing through to its bottom line, with income from membership fees rising by more than $200,000 to $1.3m during last season.

Happy to help the know alls know nothings.

 

[zero]

the storm will survive, but as soon as news pulls out they will go from big spenders to a southern cronulla team

and as stupid as the NRL have been in the past letting expansion teams just die, the new ARLC wont make the same mistake. they at least will understand the importance of the storm to the comp as a whole, and will prop them up as required

 

[Brock Machine]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...for-law-breaches/story-e6frg6nf-1225857630482



Happy to help the know alls know nothings.

Does the $1.6 million profit include prize money and sponsors before the club was disgraced and began imploding? How much of that is news $$$$?

 

[The Falcon Strike]

No they haven't, the Storm have been making a profit and when they don't, it's only a couple 100k below.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...for-law-breaches/story-e6frg6nf-1225857630482

Despite the current uproar, Melbourne Storm's latest accounts reveal the embattled club to be in a sound financial position, having turned its previous year's $967,000 loss into a $1.6 million profit.

The club's recent success in the National Rugby League, including two premierships in the past three years, has obviously started flowing through to its bottom line, with income from membership fees rising by more than $200,000 to $1.3m during last season.


Happy to help the know alls know nothings.

So you just found evidence contradicting your own statements - unless 9 is now a couple.

Keep punching sunshine

 

[Castres Treize]

So you just found evidence contradicting your own statements - unless 9 is now a couple.

Keep punching sunshine

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Yeah, 900k is massive in todays big business sport

Not as big a lose as Port eh?

 

[The Falcon Strike]

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Yeah, 900k is massive in todays big business sport

Not as big a lose as Port eh?

The amount is irrelevant, as is the topic - you're having a crack at so called "know-alls" - yet you blatantly made shit up.

You said their losses were only a couple of hundred thousand, the reality was from your evidence one year at least was $900k+

So you simply made up your argument earlier.

 

[the distributer]

The amount is irrelevant, as is the topic - you're having a crack at so called "know-alls" - yet you blatantly made shit up.

You said their losses were only a couple of hundred thousand, the reality was from your evidence one year at least was $900k+

So you simply made up your argument earlier.

doesnt really mater how much it is, the players could always "fix" the problem.

 

[SM]

Why is all the furore about the AFL coming out of Sydney?

We didn't hear the same shit out of QLD

Cos NSW is full of drop kicks, and I say that being a NSWman myself.

Direct quote from a friend of mind when discussing how AFL is more popular than NRL, "It's only because people in Victoria have no life."

 

[the distributer]

Cos NSW is full of drop kicks, and I say that being a NSWman myself.

Direct quote from a friend of mind when discussing how AFL is more popular than NRL, "It's only because people in Victoria have no life."

Thats because his daddy told him "that game they play down south's for sissys boy", now let me teach ya how my daddy taught me to start the play, bend over boy!, further boy!!!, i need to smell it boy, that's it. now spread those legs nice and wide, squeal like a pig, squeal boy!!!.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Agree with the earlier comment made that league has a vey strong core of support in its heartland that shouldn't be underestimated.

But fact is that it cannot grow. The product is way too weak and the administration too poor. All they can do is hold on to the heartland which explains the fear about Western Sydney.

League in southern states is an irrelevancy. AFL and soccer in time will become the two and only two dominant codes in the country

 

[Professor Knowall]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...for-law-breaches/story-e6frg6nf-1225857630482

Happy to help the know alls know nothings.

The only know nothing here is the poor old captain himself! That NewsLtd Storm lose a shipload of money every year is no state secret. And its been massive - up to $8 million every single year and estimated at $14 million for 2010 (see article below). The creative reporting by the News Ltd article posted by the paranoid captain about the so-called "$1.6 million profit" totally ignored the $8 million dollar subsidy, thus turning a real loss of $6.4 million into somehow being a profit.

But every NRL supporter would - or should - know that the issue of who will continue these massive subsidies of the Storm franchise (afterall, its not a club but merely a News Ltd "entertainment product") is the main bone of contention that has held up negotiations for a new NRL independent commission -
http://www.theage.com.au/rugby-leag...ependent-commission-works-20100723-10ope.html

... News Ltd's claim for increased funding of the Melbourne Storm following the club's salary cap crisis are thwarting the establishment of an independent commission to take control of the game at the end of the season.... While most of the major issues are believed to have been resolved, two remain outstanding - ... the level of funding needed to keep the Storm afloat after News hands over its 50 per cent stake in the NRL.

News takes $8 million from the NRL each year that is used to cover the Storm's losses. It is that arrangement that effectively enabled the Storm to rort the salary cap undetected for so long as club management knew there was a pot of money they could tap into if they could provide receipts to account for expenses. As long as the bills didn't total more than $8m no one looked too closely ...

This season, News says it has to cover additional losses caused by the withdrawal of sponsors, a $500,000 fine from the NRL and the return of $1.1m in prizemoney accumulated over the previous four seasons they were cheating the salary cap. ...

the company will have to top up the Storm's income from sponsorship, gate receipts and other sources by $14m - which is $2m more than Cronulla spend on their total football operation and just $2m less than Souths, the only Sydney club to record a profit last year, spend on their team. ...

Macourt insists that the club needs more funding - not less - than the $30m the media company was initially seeking to cover projected losses for the next five years.

 

[Damon_3388]

Even if the NRL does "win" the Western Sydney battle, they've still got half of Australia that barely cares about their game at all. For example, rugby league is virtually non-existent here in SA, even with the occasional NRL regular season game getting played here.

 

[The Big Steele]

Forget the rest of Australia.

60% of the total advertising in Australia comes out of Sydney.

Therefore the Sydney heartland is the most important place for money in Australia.

Locationwise, The NRL have a real monetary head start, IF..

they ever get their act together.

 

[the distributer]

Forget the rest of Australia.

60% of the total advertising in Australia comes out of Sydney.

Therefore the Sydney heartland is the most important place for money in Australia.

Locationwise, The NRL have a real monetary head start, IF..

they ever get their act together.

what's that supposed to mean?, even if that's true it doesnt matter where the advertising comes from, it's what people in any given area watch, and for over 50% of the populatiion isnt league.

 

[Damon_3388]

Forget the rest of Australia.

60% of the total advertising in Australia comes out of Sydney.

Therefore the Sydney heartland is the most important place for money in Australia.

Locationwise, The NRL have a real monetary head start, IF..

they ever get their act together.

What I mean is, they don't have any chance of killing off AFL in the rest of the country, as they barely even have any foothold in states like SA.

 

[AllSport]

Agree with the earlier comment made that league has a vey strong core of support in its heartland that shouldn't be underestimated.

But fact is that it cannot grow. The product is way too weak and the administration too poor. All they can do is hold on to the heartland which explains the fear about Western Sydney.

League in southern states is an irrelevancy. AFL and soccer in time will become the two and only two dominant codes in the country

League will grow once it gets it act together it's best not to underestimate and say it won't go anyway because it will I guarantee you that the question is not if but when. They will give WA another go considering the extraordinary circumstances it what place under (Super league) sooner than later. Don't know about SA who knows the Cronulla Sharks might relocate there if worse comes to wore.

Both NRL teams WA/SA during the 90's were given little time to establish themselves compare to Lions/Swans the one thing they had in common was hard times both Swans/Lions & Reds/Rams were near death at one point the difference was the AFL stepped in and save Swan/Lions while the NRL did jack all and cull them in there stupidity. Reds & Rams had the same potential as the Swans/Lions to have a niche in there respective states.

There are people from both side of the fence wishing death on each other sports (NRL) & expanison teams (GWS/GC) but in the end of the day both can prosper and co-exist. The media is responsible for publishing this 'code war' no sense yet everyone is hook,line,and sinker and we get threads like this and over at League unlimited.

Asking for peace is a little much but we can get along considering League when through hell and back numerous times it's a resilient code so that should be considered too and AFL is our indigenous code so we respect that too.

Peace
Rant over

 

[Hodgepodge]

NRL have to accept that they are 1) irrelevant to us, and 2)that they are a glorified bush league.