Things that sh*t me the seventeenth

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It's not factually incorrect, autism may have been a diagnosed condition along with depression and schizophrenia back in the 70s but it wasn't talked about that much or handled as well as it is now.

People were still put into loony bins in the 70s for mental health problems, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest is a prime example.


Dude you have said Sesame Street is too woke because they have an autistic character

You've said autism was unheard of in the 1970s which is not correct and you're doubling down on it.

How about you take the loss and move on
 
Dude you have said Sesame Street is too woke because they have an autistic character

You've said autism was unheard of in the 1970s which is not correct and you're doubling down on it.

How about you take the loss and move on

OK I will move on.

There is no point discussing anything here that even slightly criticises the left even in a light hearted manner about a kids tv show.

You're right, I'm wrong, you win, I lose, congratulations.
 

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Sesame Street was pretty progressive back in the Seventies but it was more subtle with Bert and Ernie being a same sex couple.

Bert and Ernie aren't a same sex couple. They are best mates that have different personalities which makes for some funny situations. There was an episode where Bert seemed to have romantic feelings for Bertha. Another where Ernie teased Bert for having a girlfriend.

Laurel and Hardy had a similar quarrelsome buddy relationship. They sometimes shared the same bed when on their travels but it was for comedic value not an implication that they were a gay couple. Both characters had wives.
 
I guess it's a compliment, but it kind of makes you feel like your being a show pony, even though you're not. And being no different than anybody else wearing one (whos out of shape), because it's hot out.

I shared a pic to my mates Whatsapp when I was in Perth last year. Was in a singlet, one bloke commented something like I was trying to show off, I pointed out it was February and 38 and hoped that was acceptable!
 
Swedish Chef and the Manamana bloke were my favs
And the mad fish thrower
And Gonzo with his Harem of chickens 🤣
And Beaker
And the Electric Mayhem band
They were all so good , Classic timeless entertainment

Rewatched the original muppet movie a month or so ago just for the nostalgia and to listen to Rainbow Connection, surely one of the most moving songs of all time
 

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And the mad fish thrower
And Gonzo with his Harem of chickens 🤣
And Beaker
And the Electric Mayhem band
They were all so good , Classic timeless entertainment

Rewatched the original muppet movie a month or so ago just for the nostalgia and to listen to Rainbow Connection, surely one of the most moving songs of all time
Disney has The Muppet Show from the 1st season - Debbie Harry singing Rainbow Connection is the sex
 
Another factually incorrect assumption

The term autism was first used way back in 1911 by Swiss psychiatrist Eugen Bleuler - though at the time it was thought to be a symptom of schizophrenia

Fast forward 30 years and there was a growing understanding that autism was it's own condition, and in 1943 Donald Triplett was the first person diagnosed with autism

Though for the next 30-40 years, diagnosis still often fell under various schizophrenia terms, before finally being formally recognised as it's own condition in 1980

Autism isn't new, but maybe now days it's just that we're doing a better job of acknowledging it & being prepared to be open to addressing it in popular culture, rather then portraying autistic individuals as being like Rain Man

I kept some of the textbooks from my psychology degree so I thought I would take a look.

The Developing Child, Helen Bee. 1978.

Autism. See Emotional disturbance.​
Emotional disturbance gets nine pages, two of which are about autism. They distinguish between autism and schizophrenia by the age of onset. Austism is present at birth or shortly afterwards, whereas schizophrenia in children develops at school age. It states that the long range prognosis depends on if the child is also ******ed (the r word that rhymes with carded). There is no mention of Asperger's or 'the spectrum'.​

Abnormal Psychology, Davidson/Neale. 1982.

Austism. See Infantile autism.​
Infantile autism gets nine pages out of a 40 page chapter called Mental ******ation and Infantile Autism. It states that Leo Kanner proposed the term in 1943. Austism did not appear in DSM I or DSM II but it was included in DSM III in 1980. They describe children who had not developed normal relationships with people, who were severely limited in langauge, and who had an obsessive desire for everything around them to remain the same. They also say the prognosis depends on if the child is also ******ed, but state that some autistic kids have trouble with IQ tests but are not unintelligent. Again, there's no mention of Asperger's or the spectrum.​
Clearly, the diagnostic criteria has broadened in recent years and there is more attention to the topic - so individuals might have improved access to assistance. But it also makes it hard to determine if the actual incidence of autism has gone up.
 
I kept some of the textbooks from my psychology degree so I thought I would take a look.

The Developing Child, Helen Bee. 1978.

Autism. See Emotional disturbance.​
Emotional disturbance gets nine pages, two of which are about autism. They distinguish between autism and schizophrenia by the age of onset. Austism is present at birth or shortly afterwards, whereas schizophrenia in children develops at school age. It states that the long range prognosis depends on if the child is also ******ed (the r word that rhymes with carded). There is no mention of Asperger's or 'the spectrum'.​

Abnormal Psychology, Davidson/Neale. 1982.

Austism. See Infantile autism.​
Infantile autism gets nine pages out of a 40 page chapter called Mental ******ation and Infantile Autism. It states that Leo Kanner proposed the term in 1943. Austism did not appear in DSM I or DSM II but it was included in DSM III in 1980. They describe children who had not developed normal relationships with people, who were severely limited in langauge, and who had an obsessive desire for everything around them to remain the same. They also say the prognosis depends on if the child is also ******ed, but state that some autistic kids have trouble with IQ tests but are not unintelligent. Again, there's no mention of Asperger's or the spectrum.​
Clearly, the diagnostic criteria has broadened in recent years and there is more attention to the topic - so individuals might have improved access to assistance. But it also makes it hard to determine if the actual incidence of autism has gone up.

Super interesting seeing what was in old text books!
 
Super interesting seeing what was in old text books!

It would be interesting to see what was in later psychology text books. Asperger's Syndrome was included in DSM IV (1994) but removed in DSM 5 (2013) in favour of Autism Spectrum Disorder with severity levels 1, 2 or 3, depending on the amount of support an individual requires. Someone who would have been diagnosed with Asperger’s Syndrome under DSM IV might now receive an ASD diagnosis with level 1. The move could also have had something to do with Hans Asperger's links to the Nazis!
 
There is no point discussing anything here because I can't stop making things up and I get my knickers in a bunch when someone points it out in even the most even handed way.
EFA
 
But it also makes it hard to determine if the actual incidence of autism has gone up.
I think it was under diagnosed

ADD/ADHD diagnosis could be added

Some like me were mild to borderline - those who preferred a set routine and hated change etc
 

Major change to accessing paracetamol in Australia: What you need to know​

From February 1, packs of the medication for sale outside chemists will be limited to 16 tablets or capsules, down from 20, while packs in pharmacies will be limited to 50 tablets or capsules, down from 100.

 

Major change to accessing paracetamol in Australia: What you need to know​

From February 1, packs of the medication for sale outside chemists will be limited to 16 tablets or capsules, down from 20, while packs in pharmacies will be limited to 50 tablets or capsules, down from 100.

WHY
 

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