And the second anyone starts racially vilifying someone should be instant report and ban
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I reckon it was pretty obvious that the ball touched the ground.
Ponting probably just didn't consider the "not in control of his movements" caveat.
But I agree that he was totally entitled to appeal. I don't see how that can be used as evidence of "bad sportsmanship".
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Correct no matter what was said he is still guilty of racism regardless of the provocation. What was said before the racist remark is irrelevent.
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Lets have a look at a few more examples of this incompetent bunch of "we play within the spirit of the game", "we walk when we think we're out", "we only appeal when we know it's deffinitly out", "we don't abuse, sledge or racially abuse" and "we don't over-celebrate when we get a wicket" saints.
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I dont believe in falling and hitting the ground that ponting would be fully aware of the status of the ball in relation to the turf. There is a lot happening in a short time there for the catcher. But it is a purely academic point given the result from the ump. But I'd say given his prior notification to the ump about a non catch, ponting's intentions can not be doubted
Agreed, my little Indian friend.
. As for hysterical roebuck he is the one that should be questioning his role. his attack on hayden for crossing himself at test level and not at state level was appalling. l've already written my letter to 'the age' and l encourage others to do so too. Even his old mate Tim Lane has come out in pubic disagreement.
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I will defend Australia to the hilt on this issue, but, I must admit I laughed when Clarke held his ground and waited for the umpire to raise his finger before leaving after edging it to first slip.
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I cant believe this
Clarkes catch was fair, Gavaskar tried to say it wasnt because as Clarke rolled over after taking the catch his hand holding the ball went to the ground so he could push himself up and the ball was in this hand touching the ground.
I mean, what the ****?
Then Ponting dived for the ball and caught it cleanly before braking his fall with the ball in his hand and in the process the ball hit the ground.
A similar thing happened in the Ashes 2005 first test in Englands 2nd innings when Lee took a great caught and bowled.
In the spirit of the game it is a catch, no doubt.
Clarkes catch was fair, Gavaskar tried to say it wasnt because as Clarke rolled over after taking the catch his hand holding the ball went to the ground so he could push himself up and the ball was in this hand touching the ground.
I mean, what the ****?
Then Ponting dived for the ball and caught it cleanly before braking his fall with the ball in his hand and in the process the ball hit the ground.
A similar thing happened in the Ashes 2005 first test in Englands 2nd innings when Lee took a great caught and bowled.
In the spirit of the game it is a catch, no doubt.
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As i said before, i believe the reason he did this was because Symonds wasnt ready to bat, as in he was getting padded up, and by waiting around hed buy symonds an extral 30 seconds or so.
I think a few people on here are a bit confused as to the 'in control' comment.
There is no rule in cricket that states YOUR BODY has to be in control. You have to have control of THE BALL.
Some of the great catches of all time have been taken when a player has thrown himself at the call (out of control unless you have the power to levitate) & yet held onto the ball (ie CONTROLLED IT).
Ponting catch of Dhoni was shown by TV replays to have been a legitimate catch... Dravid's dismissal was shown to be not out in the same manner. Both poor umpiring decisions & nothing to do with poor sportsmanship (or else the Indians would be guilty of appealing an incident that clearly wasn't out...hang out how did Ponting go out in the 1st dig???)
Just another week in world cricket...BCCI thrown their weight around, ICC capitulates, India's superstars show how overated they are, Australia wins again, Indian supporters blindly support racist remarks (I'll be sure to test out the monkey comment next time I run into a indian student..but apparently it's a term of endearment).
What a joke...
There is no rule in cricket that states YOUR BODY has to be in control. You have to have control of THE BALL.
Some of the great catches of all time have been taken when a player has thrown himself at the call (out of control unless you have the power to levitate) & yet held onto the ball (ie CONTROLLED IT).
Ponting catch of Dhoni was shown by TV replays to have been a legitimate catch... Dravid's dismissal was shown to be not out in the same manner. Both poor umpiring decisions & nothing to do with poor sportsmanship (or else the Indians would be guilty of appealing an incident that clearly wasn't out...hang out how did Ponting go out in the 1st dig???)
Just another week in world cricket...BCCI thrown their weight around, ICC capitulates, India's superstars show how overated they are, Australia wins again, Indian supporters blindly support racist remarks (I'll be sure to test out the monkey comment next time I run into a indian student..but apparently it's a term of endearment).
What a joke...
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Classic, did you miss the bit where were the most successful side ever. hehehe mmmmmmm moron.
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. Not great but well within the parameters of the game and not worth burning effigies...
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As for hysterical roebuck he is the one that should be questioning his role. his attack on hayden for crossing himself at test level and not at state level was appalling. l've already written my letter to 'the age' and l encourage others to do so too. Even his old mate Tim Lane has come out in pubic disagreement.
This point could have been made elsewhere and maybe at another time by Roebuck. However, it's a valid criticism. Hayden making much of his Christianity at Test (international) while not at State level brings into question his sincerity. And Hayden is well-known as a shit-stirrer/sledger when fielding. How can that be reconciled with his faith?
There is nothing worse than religious hyprocrisy.
The bigger issues here, other than umpiring standards, are the BCCI and its financial clout (something like 70-80% of all revenue) leading it to believe it can order the ICC around. The ICC must control the game of cricket, and the umpires must control it on the field. Otherwise we don't have a game.
those videos are gold
it just shows india will do amything they can do to win, the just can't handle it when it goes the other way
alos H Singh is clearly a tool
it just shows india will do amything they can do to win, the just can't handle it when it goes the other way
alos H Singh is clearly a tool
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Lol, and he knew this because? his first thought after getting out was what??? naaah, even I don't buy that.
l agree there is nothing worse than religious hypocrisy.
But how this example represents it in any significant way l am not sure. If he makes a hundred in the back yard should he cross himself? He represents his country with pride and it symbolises a higher significance of effort and honour to him to perform at that level.
The sledging is a better angle to question him on, and that is one for him to mull over himself, within himself since l have no great knowledge of what he is or isn;t saying out there on the field.
what's our record got to do with what I said?
Stoop that low for a win hey?
Here are the major facts that i see...
Umpires made a decision, thats how it is....
At the end of the day (the last day infact) India had 12 balls to face... with 3 wickets in hand....
Ball 1/12 - WICKET
Ball 2/12 - WICKET
Ball 3/12 - (after Sharma had a "brain fade" and brought 2 of the same handed gloves out to the crease) Dot Ball
Ball 4/12 - Dot Ball
Ball 5/12 - WICKET
I think the aspect that India should be looking into, is their bottom order's failure to survive against a part time spinner, who was bowling his 2nd over of the innings, in the last 10 minutes of the test
Here are the major facts that i see...
Umpires made a decision, thats how it is....
At the end of the day (the last day infact) India had 12 balls to face... with 3 wickets in hand....
Ball 1/12 - WICKET
Ball 2/12 - WICKET
Ball 3/12 - (after Sharma had a "brain fade" and brought 2 of the same handed gloves out to the crease) Dot Ball
Ball 4/12 - Dot Ball
Ball 5/12 - WICKET
I think the aspect that India should be looking into, is their bottom order's failure to survive against a part time spinner, who was bowling his 2nd over of the innings, in the last 10 minutes of the test
Yes, he has been found guilty pending appeal, it was more in response to: "and got what he deserved." Will there be an apology if he's cleared?
I can't prove what they knew, however it is probable.
Ponting's was, Clarke's is debatable but it bounced before him so kind of moot.
By the very nature of the word, yes it does.
I used "various other things" to save time. Symonds smacking it and not walking then going to tell the media, Clarke waiting around after hitting it to first slip, appeal for a Dravid catch when it clearly missed his bat/gloves... do I need to go on? Keep in mind what I was replying to, by listing even one incident I've done enough.
Before anyone jumps on the 'but India did it too!' bandwagon, it was in response to "Fact: Australia have done NOTHING wrong. If you don't like the way we play the game, HTFU."
