The Premiership favourite- 2025

[RCAB]

Very clear
Gap to second

Based on what?

 

[Cringle]

Power Rankings

1. Brisbane
2. Hawthorn
3. GWS
4. Gold Coast
5. Adelaide

6. Geelong
7. Sydney
8. St Kilda
9. Collingwood

10. Fremantle
11. Bulldogs
12. Essendon
13. North Melbourne
14. Port Adelaide

15. Melbourne
16. Richmond
17. Carlton
18. West Coast

 

[Mr Meow]

seems crazy that Geelong is putting out teams barely older than Richmond, North and WCE. Also shows how cooked Melbourne and Carlton are

Conway in for Stanley (hopefully) will make us younger again. Then COS is gearing up to replace Blicavs (so in effect from our squad so far it would be Kolo in for Blicavs at some stage). Maybe in a year or two that COS for Blicavs transition will be complete.

A young or prime aged A grade midfielder to replace Danger is still on the wish-list but who knows if we can get it done.

 

[NetworkNerd]

Conway in for Stanley (hopefully) will make us younger again. Then COS is gearing up to replace Blicavs (so in effect from our squad so far it would be Kolo in for Blicavs at some stage). Maybe in a year or two that COS for Blicavs transition will be complete.

A young or prime aged A grade midfielder to replace Danger is still on the wish-list but who knows if we can get it done.

Sam Walsh is out of contract next year. Good old Falcons boy

 

[Mr Meow]

Sam Walsh is out of contract next year. Good old Falcons boy

Holmes and Smith are already less than stellar with ball in hand (although good explosive speed/territory players). Ideally we either get an absolute contested bull (Rowell) or a classy ball user/decision maker to compliment them. Walsh is almost like an anti score involvement machine - creates more for opposition than his own team - lately. I'm not sure it's a good fit.

 

[Xtreme]

Hawthorn clear favourite at $5 (TAB)
Brisbane and GWS second line at $7

Not clear blue sky at all
Its very cloudy at present
I'd say Hawthorn is 12th favourite.

 

[Mr Meow]

Not clear blue sky at all
Its very cloudy at present
I'd say Hawthorn is 12th favourite.

With the greatest amount of respect though, you have NFI.

 

[Xtreme]

With the greatest amount of respect though, you have NFI.

I have more idea than anyone in Geelong town

Richmond/West Coast and North Melbourne have more of a shot at Premiership 2025 than Hawthorn do at present

 

[Mr Meow]

I have more idea than anyone in Geelong town

Richmond/West Coast and North Melbourne have more of a shot at Premiership 2025 than Hawthorn do at present

Of course you do mate.

 

[Fadge]

Of course you do mate.

I'm glad he left out Carlton...

If he'd have included them, then we'd know he was really taking the mickey.

 

[Xtreme]

I'm glad he left out Carlton...

If he'd have included them, then we'd know he was really taking the mickey.

 

[lionsrules]

Conceding 90 points to Richmond is a disgrace. They're in for a rude shock in the next couple of months- if Hawks, Suns or Crows played them tomorrow they'd get flogged

We’ve had football in some really tough conditions. Sydney game and west coast game … players looked like they were melting. Also had gastro go through the group. I’d say we took the foot off the gas in the last quarter. It’s ok … you’re the premiership favourite. No one is taking that away from you.

 

[RCAB]

Holmes and Smith are already less than stellar with ball in hand (although good explosive speed/territory players). Ideally we either get an absolute contested bull (Rowell) or a classy ball user/decision maker to compliment them. Walsh is almost like an anti score involvement machine - creates more for opposition than his own team - lately. I'm not sure it's a good fit.

There's not many worse than Walsh when you combine Disposals/SI-team%. He's clearly the worst at Carlton this year.

You're right about Smith and Holmes, in the worst three at the club for combined SI-team%/ Turnovers. Acres and Walsh worst two at Carlton.

 

[JHF1870]

Still too early to gain serious insights but here's the box plots for each team up to round 4 based on my ratings

Adelaide, and GWS really starting to stand out, but Hawks are interesting.

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

I think Hawthorns odds are deserved.

They've beaten two contenders and two rabbles who threw everything at them.

They have not been flying and they have won differently and overcome below par performances in a variety of areas every week. Currently there are 4 or 5 best 22 players out (Worpel, Cmac, Dear, Scrimshaw to start).

Long way to go but what's the point in following footy if you cant enjoy the good times? I've started making plans for Sept 27.

 

[Gavin Excell]

I think Hawthorns odds are deserved.

They've beaten two contenders and two rabbles who threw everything at them.

They have not been flying and they have won differently and overcome below par performances in a variety of areas every week. Currently there are 4 or 5 best 22 players out (Worpel, Cmac, Dear, Scrimshaw to start).

Long way to go but what's the point in following footy if you cant enjoy the good times? I've started making plans for Sept 27.

I understand why supporters want to eschew the favouritism tag but yes agree. Embrace it

 

[hawkman]

I understand why supporters want to eschew the favouritism tag but yes agree. Embrace it

I wonder what the odds of going unbeaten are. Can't see where we lose a game

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

I understand why supporters want to eschew the favouritism tag but yes agree. Embrace it

Cheers

I'm far more magnanimous and reserved IRL. But I don't know anyone here, it's an outlet and a bit of fun.

Bugger it

 

[Guardian Hawk]

Very clear
Gap to second

It just doesn't make much sense to me.

Leaving aside the fact that favouritism in April means nothing (remember Cariton were red hot this time last year, Hawthorn favourites for the spoon and Brisbane winless), how can the reigning premier, with a ridiculous (and improved list) be undefeated and not favourite?

Especially give Hawthorn has won 1 final in the last 8 years.

It HAS to be the Lions at this stage (with GWS and a group of others, including Hawthorn, in the next rung)

 

[Mr Meow]

It just doesn't make much sense to me.

Leaving aside the fact that favouritism in April means nothing (remember Cariton were red hot this time last year, Hawthorn favourites for the spoon and Brisbane winless), how can the reigning premier, with a ridiculous (and improved list) be undefeated and not favourite?

Especially give Hawthorn has won 1 final in the last 8 years.

It HAS to be the Lions at this stage (with GWS and a group of others, including Hawthorn, in the next rung)

MCG tenant on fire will always be ahead in favouritism compared to another similarly strong team.

If the grand final was in Brisbane it may be a different story.

 

[bungalow_bill]

We’ve had football in some really tough conditions. Sydney game and west coast game … players looked like they were melting. Also had gastro go through the group. I’d say we took the foot off the gas in the last quarter. It’s ok … you’re the premiership favourite. No one is taking that away from you.

Barely had the foot on the gas for the entire game. See the final half V Cats - that's the Lions pumping some gas, but they had to.

 

[Wojcinski]

squiggle forecast has the predicted top 4 as:

1. Hawthorn
2. Gold Coast
3. Geelong
4. Collingwood

predicting a Pies vs Suns GF

squiggle flagpole has:

1. Geelong
2. Hawthorn
3. Collingwood
4. Gold Coast

I'm not surprised Gold Coast is factoring so highly this early on and equally not surprised Brisbane is being ignored despite winning games, they've been uninspiring. I am surprised Geelong factors into either of these though.

 

[demondavey]

Holmes and Smith are already less than stellar with ball in hand (although good explosive speed/territory players). Ideally we either get an absolute contested bull (Rowell) or a classy ball user/decision maker to compliment them. Walsh is almost like an anti score involvement machine - creates more for opposition than his own team - lately. I'm not sure it's a good fit.

What about Worpel?

 

[demondavey]

Hawthorn have the MCG advantage. It’s likely that will get them home.

 

[Nunez]

Conceding 90 points to Richmond is a disgrace. They're in for a rude shock in the next couple of months- if Hawks, Suns or Crows played them tomorrow they'd get flogged

Brisbane didn't defend all game and played like it was a scratchy.

Imagine trying to defend against Essendon and still conceding 85 points though. Bloody Hokball!!!