The Jamarra Thread

[TiAn_]

I'm always the problem Tian.
I'm why we can't win in Perth.
I'm the one who hurt Bont's calf.

Me and my "checks notes" caring about the mental health of humans I've never met.

It starts with a bit of empathy and ends in a 20% tariff

 

[immortalmike]

It starts with a bit of empathy and ends in a 20% tariff

To be fair it is a big beautiful tariff.

 

[BrisDog]

Cmon DRB….that poor player you are talking about has a very serious finger injury….that is all. It’s causing him so much pain that he can’t be seen

His Ford Ranger ran over his whole hand, not just his finger, silly.

 

[BrisDog]

I think most actually do. But many, myself included, don’t believe it should be used as an excuse for ongoing poor conduct. Harry McKay & Tom Boyd have my absolute respect for how they handled their difficult period. JUHs issues seem largely self inflicted and ongoing. He has even said himself that he feels great, yet still acts up. To me, he is not professional enough to play AFL.

Your comparison of Tom Boyd with JUH and how they handled their mental issues differently is spot on and will be reflected in their football legacies.

 

[Freshwater]

**** we suck as a supporter base.

Jamarra is injured at the moment. It may not be physically but it is no less an injury than what Treloar, Bont or Weightman are dealing with. What's worse is that this injury may cause him act or choose poorly in the eyes of some here. That is certainly not helpful to his cause but not as unhelpful as the supposed supporters who are saying genuinely terrible things about him.

How about supporting him. How about treating him with respect. How about giving him some care and understanding. He'll cop enough from the general public. We're supposed to have his back.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Naughton's a complete clean skin in a 3 game form slump and the vitriol that I've seen is downright disgusting.

Sometimes I feel as a supporter base we don't deserve good things because we eat our own worse than any other. It's no wonder I barely post.

This is nothing like a physical injury. He is making poor decisions at the moment in his life. The club paying him is enabling this to continue. You sound like you are putting his problems outside of himself? There can never be growth until responsibility is taken. To heal is to humble, that’s where the word comes from. To be humble means he has made mistakes and must change. This won’t heal magically. It can only happen through working at something bigger than the self. Professional football may not be his thing, that’s ok, but don’t take the money that it gives.

 

[grassman75]

His Ford Ranger ran over his whole hand, not just his finger, silly.

I thought he damaged it doing the fencing on his farm….it certainly wasn’t working in the Cotton On sweat shop

 

[Spiritof82]

Your comparison of Tom Boyd with JUH and how they handled their mental issues differently is spot on and will be reflected in their football legacies.

Boyd will have a legacy and be remembered for what he brought to the club while JUH will be remembered for ????????????

 

[Mutt]

OK - enough of the Jamarra pile-on.

Many Bulldogs supporters (including me) are unhappy with the situation and with Jamarra, but this relentless public flogging is unseemly and not what the club needs right now. Not to mention how tedious and unoriginal it gets to read endless slagging off on Jamarra.

Please try to be balanced and add something to the conversation if you post in this thread.

 

[oldfaithfuldog]

OK - enough of the Jamarra pile-on.

Many Bulldogs supporters (including me) are unhappy with the situation and with Jamarra, but this relentless public flogging is unseemly and not what the club needs right now. Not to mention how tedious and unoriginal it gets to read endless slagging off on Jamarra.

Please try to be balanced and add something to the conversation if you post in this thread.

Close the thread then. Only last week JUH was out at a Brighton pub playing pokies without a shirt late into the night. If he continues to act up this will be posted. Close the thread if people dont want to hear the truth about his conduct.

 

[oldfaithfuldog]

I'm always the problem Tian.
I'm why we can't win in Perth.
I'm the one who hurt Bont's calf.

Me and my "checks notes" caring about the mental health of humans I've never met.

We all care, but excusing poor conduct and pretending it is al ok is not helpful at all. So don’t pretend to take the morale high ground.

 

[Mutt]

Close the thread then. Only last week JUH was out at a Brighton pub playing pokies without a shirt late into the night. If he continues to act up this will be posted. Close the thread if people dont want to hear the truth about his conduct.

You have added nothing new by way of information to the thread. You have lambasted Jamarra and slagged off at other posters. I've given you a warning. Post within the site rules and be reasonable and respectful.

 

[The White Mouse]

We all care, but excusing poor conduct and pretending it is al ok is not helpful at all. So don’t pretend to take the morale high ground.

My care factor is directly proportional to the degree to which a player applies himself and is committed, regardless of talent.

So in this case, my care factor is zero. Sniff, less than zero. Cf with Lin Jong, Clay Smith .... very high care factor.

 

[Dogsfan1]

Close the thread then. Only last week JUH was out at a Brighton pub playing pokies without a shirt late into the night. If he continues to act up this will be posted. Close the thread if people dont want to hear the truth about his conduct.

Jeez u keep adding to it

 

[BrisDog]

Please try to be balanced and add something to the conversation if you post in this thread.

Should we superficially try and add balance? Okay:

He was awesome against Melbourne 2 years ago and his 3 goals in the last quarter won us the game.

It was terrific.

 

[oldfaithfuldog]

You have added nothing new by way of information to the thread. You have lambasted Jamarra and slagged off at other posters. I've given you a warning. Post within the site rules and be reasonable and respectful.

Who did I slag off? I was referred to as a prick and a mouse for calling into question JUHs conduct. I never slagged another poster off at all, if so please show the comment?

 

[The White Mouse]

Who did I slag off? I was referred to as a prick and a mouse for calling into question JUHs conduct. I never slagged another poster off at all, if so please show the comment?

TBF, the Mouse bit was probably directed at me, however, the poster bores me so I chose not to respond.

Who knows, maybe JUH will also exercise choice responsibly one day, in some scenario.....somewhere.

 

[Mutt]

Who did I slag off? I was referred to as a prick and a mouse for calling into question JUHs conduct. I never slagged another poster off at all, if so please show the comment?

Read your personal messages. You were given a warning—as was the poster you were arguing with. The offending posts from you both have been deleted from the thread but yours is quoted in the PM from me. From this point on, take this conversation into the personal messages if you want to discuss this further.

 

[BrisDog]

It appears like another thread (USA thread ) where those are rusted-on against JUH vs those who hold hope.

Mutt - that is cool, no problem, except from what I am reading the majority think that JUH will not play for the dogs again. I am one of them.

To criticise a player on 900k per year who decides not to play should not be another reason to criticise, or ban posters.

The mainstream media think the dogs should move JUH on. Surely we not over stepping the line by agreeing with Nick Riewoldt?

If you are not up to BF’s members scrutinising JUH’s approach - erase the thread.

 

[Doggy]

Read your personal messages. You were given a warning—as was the poster you were arguing with. The offending posts from you both have been deleted from the thread but yours is quoted in the PM from me. From this point on, take this conversation into the personal messages if you want to discuss this further.

Like a dog with a bone.

I'm not sure what they aren't getting.

 

[Mutt]

It appears like another thread (USA thread ) where those are rusted-on against JUH vs those who hold hope.

Mutt - that is cool, no problem, except from what I am reading the majority think that JUH will not play for the dogs again. I am one of them.

To criticise a player on 900k per year who decides not to play should not be another reason to criticise, or ban posters.

The mainstream media think the dogs should move JUH on. Surely we not over stepping the line by agreeing with Nick Riewoldt?

If you are not up to BF’s members scrutinising JUH’s approach - erase the thread.

Brisdog, I and many others have said on here that we don't think that Jamarra will play for us again and think his behaviour is extremely disappointing, totally unacceptable and damaging to himself and to the club. However, not everyone feels the need make shit up and inflict on us all numerous posts saying the same thing over and over. Neither do they attack and disparage other Bulldogs supporters that post on here.

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

OK - enough of the Jamarra pile-on.

Many Bulldogs supporters (including me) are unhappy with the situation and with Jamarra, but this relentless public flogging is unseemly and not what the club needs right now. Not to mention how tedious and unoriginal it gets to read endless slagging off on Jamarra.

Please try to be balanced and add something to the conversation if you post in this thread.

I’m not sure talking about indiscretions is a pile on. Besides the odd post everyone is talking about stuff he’s currently doing. Not like people are bringing up things that aren’t relevant (as far as I can tell).

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

It's a photo of a bloke having a birthday lunch with mates. Yes he seems to have some real challenges and we'd much prefer him to be at training, but this is turning into a bit of a ridiculous witch hunt poring through every aspect of his private life. I actually know a couple of people in the photo, they aren't drug dealers, bikies or thugs. They're good people, small business owners having a crack at life. What a mess this has turned into.

Just for the record, everyone has a different experience with people. I’ve got mates who I’m sure plenty of people think are dickheads and I see plenty of people who I think are a dickhead who others like. It’s objective.

Also not sure being a business owner makes you immune to being a flog.

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

**** we suck as a supporter base.

Jamarra is injured at the moment. It may not be physically but it is no less an injury than what Treloar, Bont or Weightman are dealing with. What's worse is that this injury may cause him act or choose poorly in the eyes of some here. That is certainly not helpful to his cause but not as unhelpful as the supposed supporters who are saying genuinely terrible things about him.

How about supporting him. How about treating him with respect. How about giving him some care and understanding. He'll cop enough from the general public. We're supposed to have his back.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Naughton's a complete clean skin in a 3 game form slump and the vitriol that I've seen is downright disgusting.

Sometimes I feel as a supporter base we don't deserve good things because we eat our own worse than any other. It's no wonder I barely post.

You know I rate your posting, but where do we draw the line? I tried my best to get behind him over the off season but he’s just continually thrown it in our face.

 

[BrisDog]

Brisdog, I and many others have said on here that we don't think that Jamarra will play for us again and think his behaviour is extremely disappointing, totally unacceptable and damaging to himself and to the club. However, not everyone feels the need make shit up and inflict on us all numerous posts saying the same thing over and over. Neither do they attack and disparage other Bulldogs supporters that post on here.

I have not seen a lot of that. I’m not on Instagram or any social media apart from Bigfooty so images of JUH doing things that I would not do when I played amateur footy at a lower level is informative.

Trust me, nothing like a grog (or your method of disassociating) to relax any day of the week, I can relate to that.

What I am seeing is a player either deliberately damaging to our club, or immaturity at a level I have not seen for a 22 year old who is managed by professionals.

It is every members right to criticise this bloke. Most of us fork out substantial money to support our club. To watch a grown man live not give a f**k, possibly in not a state to come to work, in a Elimination Final after my family have paid significant money (relatively) to watch a player with real talent will cause posters to be angry like myself. Add the recent updates on his ‘progress’ will cause emotions that may not be palatable to those who think JUH will come good.

I am not one of them. I want him off our list.

 

[oldfaithfuldog]

I have not seen a lot of that. I’m not on Instagram or any social media apart from Bigfooty so images of JUH doing things that I would not do when I played amateur footy at a lower level is informative.

Trust me, nothing like a grog (or your method of disassociating) to relax any day of the week, I can relate to that.

What I am seeing is a player either deliberately damaging to our club, or immaturity at a level I have not seen for a 22 year old who is managed by professionals.

It is every members right to criticise this bloke. Most of us fork out substantial money to support our club. To watch a grown man live not give a f**k, possibly in not a state to come to work, in a Elimination Final after my family have paid significant money (relatively) to watch a player with real talent will cause posters to be angry like myself. Add the recent updates on his ‘progress’ will cause emotions that may not be palatable to those who think JUH will come good.

I am not one of them. I want him off our list.

Bang on! Enough is enough enough