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No, it's a people with deep roots in a place getting driven off their land at gunpoint and onlookers wondering why they feel so strongly about it.

That isn't to deny the strong Jewish connection to the region and to Jerusalem in particular but discussion of the present situation is pointless without acknowledgement that almost all of what is now Israel had an Arab population for centuries until the Nakba.
Also equally pointless without acknowledging that almost all of Israel has had much more than an Arab population for centuries.

The "native population" is not inherently Arab, Jewish or anything else. Who was there first and who deserves the land very much depends on who you ask.
 
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No, it's a people with deep roots in a place getting driven off their land at gunpoint and onlookers wondering why they feel so strongly about it.

That isn't to deny the strong Jewish connection to the region and to Jerusalem in particular but discussion of the present situation is pointless without acknowledgement that almost all of what is now Israel had an Arab population for centuries until the Nakba.

I suspect a not insignificant portion of people were Jewish, Christian and Islamic going back through their family history without ever really leaving the lands. Probably going back to the Canaanites.
 
Adrian Dittman Elon is working overtime to influence global politics via Twitter, for a guy that said Twitter should be non-political.
He never said he'd be politically neutral.

Which is also what he said twitter should be, politically neutral not non-political.
 

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Politically neutral while sending his personal political brain farts as a notification or pushed into the feed of everyone on the platform?

I actually blocked Elon on the bigfooty accounts (trade acc and Essendon acc)
he self identified as a “socialist” 9 years ago while only ever displaying the qualities of venture capitalists. to my eye, he’s only ever going to exist as a self serving “political refugee” per him clinging to any movement that will accept (his money).
 
he self identified as a “socialist” 9 years ago while only ever displaying the qualities of venture capitalists. to my eye, he’s only ever going to exist as a self serving “political refugee” per him clinging to any movement that will accept (his money).
That was in his heyday as the first billionaire of note to take climate change seriously, at a time where big businesses were almost universally dismissing the idea of doing anything to mitigate it.

It all made him something of a cult figure on the left but over time he’s been more and more mask off as a right wing nutcase on the back of issues like his daughter coming out as trans, attempts to unionise Tesla sites, covid shutdowns and so on
 
That was in his heyday as the first billionaire of note to take climate change seriously, at a time where big businesses were almost universally dismissing the idea of doing anything to mitigate it.

It all made him something of a cult figure on the left but over time he’s been more and more mask off as a right wing nutcase on the back of issues like his daughter coming out as trans, attempts to unionise Tesla sites, covid shutdowns and so on
eh, even back then he was still divisive amongst leftists (that i knew) given that he was born wealthy and never really "innovated" or made anything.
 
he self identified as a “socialist” 9 years ago while only ever displaying the qualities of venture capitalists. to my eye, he’s only ever going to exist as a self serving “political refugee” per him clinging to any movement that will accept (his money).
No one gets to be in a position like that without consistently putting number 1 first.
 
Sounds like you need to move to Bluesky
If Chris Bowen is moving to Bluesky because it has sensible discussion personally I would pass but I have never had a Twitter - X account or Instagram either so I am not really qualified to comment too much.
 

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