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Jars458 said:
Why so negative? Christ we are going to win our 2nd title in 35 years and all some people do is be negative or whinge.
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I'm not being negative. It's certainly not "all I do". We're fine this year, we will win the league and I'll love it with the fans able to attend and enjoy it too. It'll be truly fantastic.

But I just don't think we will ever replicate what City have just done because the fan base wouldn't accept the things required to have such incredible success. I'm confident we will be fighting for titles on an ongoing basis, but bringing in 4-5 first team players next season will take a while for everyone to get used to each other. We might also find out how truly important Trent is/was. There will be too much change next year, and Slot will take another step in implementing his game plan. IMO it will be a year of transition, which IMO rules out the league. City (if not relegated) will recover, Arsenal aren't going anywhere, Chelsea may take another step.
 

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The Punter said:
I'm not being negative. It's certainly not "all I do". We're fine this year, we will win the league and I'll love it with the fans able to attend and enjoy it too. It'll be truly fantastic.

But I just don't think we will ever replicate what City have just done because the fan base wouldn't accept the things required to have such incredible success. I'm confident we will be fighting for titles on an ongoing basis, but bringing in 4-5 first team players next season will take a while for everyone to get used to each other. We might also find out how truly important Trent is/was. There will be too much change next year, and Slot will take another step in implementing his game plan. IMO it will be a year of transition, which IMO rules out the league. City (if not relegated) will recover, Arsenal aren't going anywhere, Chelsea may take another step.
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Lots of maybes there? Another maybe is that maybe Arne builds on this year and we dominate next year. Anything is possible. City have to rebuild their list. Clearly Arsenal will be strong but so will we.
 
Zidane98 said:
It will be significantly different (Slot spent basically nothing ) but we still have a good chance of winning the league.
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Manchester City turning over a new squad will remain full of talent, but there's a good possibility they are more an 80-85 point side rather than a 95 point one. That keeps the door open.

The question mark is on Arsenal: they do have the potential to put a monster season together, although likely need a strong and clinical striker to do so. Otherwise I find our squad of a similar quality to theirs. Depending on our exact incomings and outgoings.
 

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The Punter said:
I'm not being negative. It's certainly not "all I do". We're fine this year, we will win the league and I'll love it with the fans able to attend and enjoy it too. It'll be truly fantastic.

But I just don't think we will ever replicate what City have just done because the fan base wouldn't accept the things required to have such incredible success. I'm confident we will be fighting for titles on an ongoing basis, but bringing in 4-5 first team players next season will take a while for everyone to get used to each other. We might also find out how truly important Trent is/was. There will be too much change next year, and Slot will take another step in implementing his game plan. IMO it will be a year of transition, which IMO rules out the league. City (if not relegated) will recover, Arsenal aren't going anywhere, Chelsea may take another step.
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Next season will be an interesting one. A lot really depends on the summer. City need a massive refresh but you know they have the money to do it and they have the best manager in the world (Klopp isnt managing right now)

And Arsenal are so close. A better run with injuries and the right one or two signing in the summer and they could finally break through.

Then we need a massive summer. Massive! We will definitely see a lot of change but if we get it right then we will definitely be in the mix to try to retain the title. We have the core of a PL champions team. If Virg and Mo re-sign, Mac, Szo, Grav, Konate, Ali...

We just need to get more help in midfield, sort the full back out, then decide what were doing with Nunez, Diaz, Gakpo and Jota and if we are moving on from a couple of them and then bringing in new forwards to help out Mo. Huge summer, but as I said, if we get it right, no reason why we cant retain.
 
jod23 said:
Next season will be an interesting one. A lot really depends on the summer. City need a massive refresh but you know they have the money to do it and they have the best manager in the world (Klopp isnt managing right now)

And Arsenal are so close. A better run with injuries and the right one or two signing in the summer and they could finally break through.

Then we need a massive summer. Massive! We will definitely see a lot of change but if we get it right then we will definitely be in the mix to try to retain the title. We have the core of a PL champions team. If Virg and Mo re-sign, Mac, Szo, Grav, Konate, Ali...

We just need to get more help in midfield, sort the full back out, then decide what were doing with Nunez, Diaz, Gakpo and Jota and if we are moving on from a couple of them and then bringing in new forwards to help out Mo. Huge summer, but as I said, if we get it right, no reason why we cant retain.
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I'm not entirely sure midfield is a huge priority. I think Slot needs to trust Elliott more, but that might not happen. Including Elliott we already have five very good mids. We play 3 in the team at once unless Curtis is playing up front or at right back. I'm not for signing mids if it just means someone is sitting on the bench all the time like Endo and Elliott have this season. They've got to be used.

IMO we need a RB if Trent leaves, a CB and LB regardless, and perhaps a forward if others leave (only Gakpo has had no chatter around leaving this summer).

But if a mid must be added, I may zag and say a proper 10 might be the priority. I'm pretty comfortable with Grav, Mac and Jones as a squad for a double pivot midfield.
 

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The Punter said:
I'm not entirely sure midfield is a huge priority. I think Slot needs to trust Elliott more, but that might not happen. Including Elliott we already have five very good mids. We play 3 in the team at once unless Curtis is playing up front or at right back. I'm not for signing mids if it just means someone is sitting on the bench all the time like Endo and Elliott have this season. They've got to be used.

IMO we need a RB if Trent leaves, a CB and LB regardless, and perhaps a forward if others leave (only Gakpo has had no chatter around leaving this summer).

But if a mid must be added, I may zag and say a proper 10 might be the priority. I'm pretty comfortable with Grav, Mac and Jones as a squad for a double pivot midfield.
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How can this be? Endo is not up to it and too old. We've got no effective competition for Grav & Mac, our depth in mid is not sufficient to challenge. We absolutely need to spend up big on 2 top class midfielders that can compete with Grav/Mac for a first team spot in the double pivot. Time to say goodbye to Morton & Endo.

#1 priority is midfield. It's so obvious how tired our mid is this season after the mammoth CL group stage plus league cup run.
#2 priority is LB as Robbo is declining quickly and Tsimikas is not the ansewr. Kerkez ideal signing.
#3 priority is a CB to push VVD & Konate and actually let VVD play less games as he ages. Preferably a top class CB in the 20-25 age range that can take over the mantle from VVD if he does stay in 2 years time.
#4 priority is a RB to replace Trent if he leaves but not critical as we have Conor Bradley and Jogo.
#5 priority is replacing one of Jota or Nunez. Replacing both isn't realistic.
 
Zidane98 said:
How can this be? Endo is not up to it and too old. We've got no effective competition for Grav & Mac, our depth in mid is not sufficient to challenge. We absolutely need to spend up big on 2 top class midfielders that can compete with Grav/Mac for a first team spot in the double pivot. Time to say goodbye to Morton & Endo.

#1 priority is midfield. It's so obvious how tired our mid is this season after the mammoth CL group stage plus league cup run.
#2 priority is LB as Robbo is declining quickly and Tsimikas is not the ansewr. Kerkez ideal signing.
#3 priority is a CB to push VVD & Konate and actually let VVD play less games as he ages. Preferably a top class CB in the 20-25 age range that can take over the mantle from VVD if he does stay in 2 years time.
#4 priority is a RB to replace Trent if he leaves but not critical as we have Conor Bradley and Jogo.
#5 priority is replacing one of Jota or Nunez. Replacing both isn't realistic.
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I guess the answer to this question is whether Slot is not playing Endo and Elliott because he doesn't think they're good enough (he's wrong on Elliott if he believes this BTW), or whether his strong preference is to lock in a small preferred squad and rely on them only.

If the answer is the latter (and I reckon it might be because his upbringing is in Holland where you don't need massive squads), then we're bringing in players to sit on the bench themselves or to bench guys who have been playing this season.

I really don't want to be in the situation in December where all the punditry stories were about how we spend heavily on midfield and we're not playing those new players. I'd rather we'd bring in players to replace players leaving (Trent) or to back up players who get injured regularly (Konate).
 
The Punter said:
I'm just concerned we will spend $50m on a fourth double pivot mid and play only three of them.
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Injuries, suspension. Rotation.

Not a concern at all, there's so many fixtures to be played. Can't have Grav playing virtually every fixture. And need someone who can push him also.
 

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