News Swans Talk in the Media: 2021

[Ticky009]

So thanks to the awesome Kennedy Parker you will notice a sticky post at the top of the pages now. This link will take you directly to the Swans YouTube channel which features interviews etc.

 

[swansfan51]

Swans struggling to overcome “massive” salary cap hurdle for 2022

“They are under enormous salary cap pressure.”

www.sen.com.au

If its really this bad, who has to go?
Hewett? Hewett + Reid?? Hewett + Reid + Parker???

I was sad to read we were re-eliminated from last year's finals series

 

[SGBeach]

Enormous hey

If true how did we get ourselves in that position

I reckon the AFL taking COLA away was big. Lost alot of players since then.
Buddys $9m contract was designed when we still had COLA. Simply put, we've been paying Buddy 10% more than we thought we could afford. Averages out to be $90k/year
This number has been amplified due to Buddys back ended deal coupled with the less room to move due to salary cap reductions forced by Covid.
Others factors in play as well..

 

[Wolfgang West]

Laugh my arse off at Stephens not happy with what’s on the table. Not even out of his high chair yet.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

We are being tabled as Collingwood 2.0 in regards to our cap.

 

[Kapers]

We are being tabled as Collingwood 2.0 in regards to our cap.

Yet somehow no one knew about Collingwood's problems until too late, but everyone knows the inside info on our club...

I still feel a lot doesn't make sense, and journalists are inferring more than we realise.

 

[Bonz]

How did we afford Daniher

Was before Covid and the salary cap cuts.

 

[Millky95]

Cool so our team next year will be Kennedy, Bell and Franklin based on how much we are clearly paying them...

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Yet somehow no one knew about Collingwood's problems until too late, but everyone knows the inside info on our club...

I still feel a lot doesn't make sense, and journalists are inferring more than we realise.

I cant remember was their leaks about Collingwood cap situation before it happened?

 

[Kapers]

I cant remember was their leaks about Collingwood cap situation before it happened?

the leaks came very late in the year, started with Treloar wanting out, and then Treloar coming out and saying those rumours were falsified, then all of a sudden everyone had to leave.

 

[swansfan51]

the leaks came very late in the year, started with Treloar wanting out, and then Treloar coming out and saying those rumours were falsified, then all of a sudden everyone had to leave.

Also had Treloar saying he wanted to stay with Collingwood, but couldn't sign a new deal for months.

 

[Kapers]

Also had Treloar saying he wanted to stay with Collingwood, but couldn't sign a new deal for months.

I don't think the issue was signing a new deal, it was that the deal he was on was heavily backended and Collingwood needed to get rid of him.
I think he was contracted for 3 more years.

 

[swansfan51]

I don't think the issue was signing a new deal, it was that the deal he was on was heavily backended and Collingwood needed to get rid of him.
I think he was contracted for 3 more years.

Good point, he didn't need an extension but definitely wanted to stay

 

[BloodySwan]

We are being tabled as Collingwood 2.0 in regards to our cap.

Just remember Collingwood are paying 200k per year for Trealor to play for another club. It'll be 2026 when they stop paying him. No where near Collingwood 2.0 let alone 0.8

 

[GoTheSwannies]

Laugh my arse off at Stephens not happy with what’s on the table. Not even out of his high chair yet.

Fuxk him off then. Doesn't deserve any more than what he's been offered (whatever it is). Prove yourself first you spud.

 

[bedford]

Fuxk him off then. Doesn't deserve any more than what he's been offered (whatever it is). Prove yourself first you spud.

Who said that's true , not what ive heard, The media are driving this

 

[bedford]

Mods Media thread !

 

[Tedeski]

I'm happy now to sit vack & wait for something that comes out of the mouth of a Swan official or player before I add any thing further to any annoyance I have had over the last week.
It's been a week now yet nothing from our guys.

 

[bedford]

I'm happy now to sit vack & wait for something that comes out of the mouth of a Swan official or player before I add any thing further to any annoyance I have had over the last week.
It's been a week now yet nothing from our guys.

All this needs to go in another thread

 

[The King!]

I was sad to read we were re-eliminated from last year's finals series

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we are a little behind in tassie I guess

 

[rustycrate]

I reckon the AFL taking COLA away was big. Lost alot of players since then.
Buddys $9m contract was designed when we still had COLA. Simply put, we've been paying Buddy 10% more than we thought we could afford. Averages out to be $90k/year
This number has been amplified due to Buddys back ended deal coupled with the less room to move due to salary cap reductions forced by Covid.
Others factors in play as well..

Buddy did not receive a lot of Cola. He was paid out largely from the Ambassador money which for every club is about $1M per year to my knowledge. Saying Buddy received Cola is like putting on an Eddy mask and saying you speak the truth. It simply is not true. This was published in the media early on in the first half of his contract in the media if I recall correctly..

 

[SGBeach]

Buddy did not receive a lot of Cola. He was paid out largely from the Ambassador money which for every club is about $1M per year to my knowledge. Saying Buddy received Cola is like putting on an Eddy mask and saying you speak the truth. It simply is not true. This was published in the media early on in the first half of his contract in the media if I recall correctly..

I hate Eddy!! and if Ive said anything that makes me like that person, please pick me up on it and Ill offer my deepest apologies.
If what your'e saying is true and 'ambassadorial' money is used to pay player contracts, (I'm not pretending to know better), then its kind of beside the point.
When Buddys contract was worked out, considered and offered to Buddy..
- The salary cap was approx $13m, + approx $1m (ambassadorial money).. this applied to all clubs
- Swans cap was approx $13m, + approx $1m (ambassadorial money) + approx $1.3m COLA
According to Andrew Ireland, Cola was taken away straight after Buddy signed. Thats $1.3m less in our cap each year. This loss of money which was budgeted to pay all contracts signed at the time is still impacting the Swans cap today. All 3 buckets of money were spread out to pay the playing list, now theres only two buckets.

But, you're correct in saying Buddy didn't receive a lot ,, He received Zero Cola, and therefore the Swans had to find that money elsewhere.

 

[bedford]

I hate Eddy!! and if Ive said anything that makes me like that person, please pick me up on it and Ill offer my deepest apologies.
If what your'e saying is true and 'ambassadorial' money is used to pay player contracts, (I'm not pretending to know better), then its kind of beside the point.
When Buddys contract was worked out, considered and offered to Buddy..
- The salary cap was approx $13m, + approx $1m (ambassadorial money).. this applied to all clubs
- Swans cap was approx $13m, + approx $1m (ambassadorial money) + approx $1.3m COLA
According to Andrew Ireland, Cola was taken away straight after Buddy signed. Thats $1.3m less in our cap each year. This loss of money which was budgeted to pay all contracts signed at the time is still impacting the Swans cap today. All 3 buckets of money were spread out to pay the playing list, now theres only two buckets.

But, you're correct in saying Buddy didn't receive a lot ,, He received Zero Cola, and therefore the Swans had to find that money elsewhere.

General Discussion ?

 

[robbieando]

I hate Eddy!! and if Ive said anything that makes me like that person, please pick me up on it and Ill offer my deepest apologies.
If what your'e saying is true and 'ambassadorial' money is used to pay player contracts, (I'm not pretending to know better), then its kind of beside the point.
When Buddys contract was worked out, considered and offered to Buddy..
- The salary cap was approx $13m, + approx $1m (ambassadorial money).. this applied to all clubs
- Swans cap was approx $13m, + approx $1m (ambassadorial money) + approx $1.3m COLA
According to Andrew Ireland, Cola was taken away straight after Buddy signed. Thats $1.3m less in our cap each year. This loss of money which was budgeted to pay all contracts signed at the time is still impacting the Swans cap today. All 3 buckets of money were spread out to pay the playing list, now theres only two buckets.

But, you're correct in saying Buddy didn't receive a lot ,, He received Zero Cola, and therefore the Swans had to find that money elsewhere.

The Salary Cap in place in 2013 as per the CBA at the time

http://footyindustry.com/files/afl/CBA/AFLPA%20-%20CBA%202012-2016.pdf

The increase in the Salary Cap in the CBA between 2017 and 2022 that we banked on (well after COLA was removed)

http://footyindustry.com/files/afl/CBA/AFLPA%20-%20CBA%202017-2022.pdf

The Salary Cap under the CBA for 2021 and 2022 has been cut by roughly 9% with the players only taking a 3.5% pay cut.

A new CBA for 2022 to 2024 is being worked on currently

 

[bedford]

The Salary Cap in place in 2013 as per the CBA at the time

http://footyindustry.com/files/afl/CBA/AFLPA%20-%20CBA%202012-2016.pdf

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The increase in the Salary Cap in the CBA between 2017 and 2022 that we banked on (well after COLA was removed)

http://footyindustry.com/files/afl/CBA/AFLPA%20-%20CBA%202017-2022.pdf

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The Salary Cap under the CBA for 2021 and 2022 has been cut by roughly 9% with the players only taking a 3.5% pay cut.

A new CBA for 2022 to 2024 is being worked on currently

Media or general discussion , or Buddy thread .

 

[Ticky009]