Prediction St.Kilda Best 22

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Premium said:
Stocker could easily transform to a different player - we all know Lyon wanted Steele to drop weight when he comeback as coach , a would bet at his exist meeting they would of said he needed to increase his tank and dropping the weight would help that.
He is well settled at the club now and could easy take a big step up and knowing the people around him have his full support.
A part from him we have so much untapped talent it hard to know who is going to explode onto the scene.
I'm a massive fan of Keller and he hasn't even played a game yet , he just seems so laid back , but for a big guy his skill level is up there and the guy can take a big grab.
But with so many young guys in the squad now it will be exciting to see what heights this team can reach.
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I think you are rushing with Keeler, he's 20 y.o. Let's hope.
I don't get the Stocker love, maybe he has tattoo fans?
 
Saintscomemarchingin said:
I think you are rushing with Keeler, he's 20 y.o. Let's hope.
I don't get the Stocker love, maybe he has tattoo fans?
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Stocker is a great tackler , he hits them hard and don't break his tackles easy - however he hasn't the speed required to really guard the smaller forwards , to me his best option is as a inside mid - but he will need to really show his best this year or he could well be gone with so many kids in the squad.
The same goes with Dow , Jones / I really feel they will need to show something in the preseason or they will be playing the year at Sandringham.
 
akaifu said:
Disagree. Although they are similar physically, Hofmann is a lot more defensive. Hastie is more like Sinclair/Nas - the offensive weapon off half back

McLennan idk what he is tbh, it would've been nice if he was a couple cms taller so he could play 3rd tall

LOC hopefully is a long-term winger to replace Wood. Good overhead and good tank
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Hastie was the best intercept defender in his draft year.
 

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Premium said:
Stocker is a great tackler , he hits them hard and don't break his tackles easy - however he hasn't the speed required to really guard the smaller forwards , to me his best option is as a inside mid - but he will need to really show his best this year or he could well be gone with so many kids in the squad.
The same goes with Dow , Jones / I really feel they will need to show something in the presebgreedason or they will be playing the year at Sandringham.
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Agreed, but Jones when fit, is our difference player in our midfield, burst speed, run down tackler, showed it all in the Carlton game, body has failed him.
 
Saintscomemarchingin said:
Agreed, but Jones when fit, is our difference player in our midfield, burst speed, run down tackler, showed it all in the Carlton game, body has failed him.
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Injury has ruined his career and never been able to show consistency
2024 - 13 games / 5 as sub
2023 - 4 games
2022 - 13 games
2021 - 13 games

He is tough and gives his all and the reason he was given another year , but turning 30 next yr with his past history I doubt we will see more than a handful of games from him.
However he most probably got given another yr due to his work ethic and he is only one of the few experienced older mids we have.
With Steele , Macrae , Windhager , Phillipou , Henry , Wilson , Owens , Pick 7 , pick 8 , Dow , Jones , Clark , Garcia , Stocker
 
Premium said:
Injury has ruined his career and never been able to show consistency
2024 - 13 games / 5 as sub
2023 - 4 games
2022 - 13 games
2021 - 13 games

He is tough and gives his all and the reason he was given another year , but turning 30 next yr with his past history I doubt we will see more than a handful of games from him.
However he most probably got given another yr due to his work ethic and he is only one of the few experienced older mids we have.
With Steele , Macrae , Windhager , Phillipou , Henry , Wilson , Owens , Pick 7 , pick 8 , Dow , Jones , Clark , Garcia , Stockera
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Alot of fans were saying that Jones was cooked last year, in truth, through many soft tissue injuries, he'd lost his confidence. Last part of the year he was one of our most important players. He's 30 y.o, if he's body holds up, could play another 3 seasons, like Macrae?
 
Saintscomemarchingin said:
Alot of fans were saying that Jones was cooked last year, in truth, through many soft tissue injuries, he'd lost his confidence. Last part of the year he was one of our most important players. He's 30 y.o, if he's body holds up, could play another 3 seasons, like Macrae?
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We can dream but Zac was on borderline of being let go.

Macrae has a history of being sound and in 11 seasons of AFL has never played less than 19 games a year and the difference of age between Jones and Macrae is 7 mths and soft tissue injuries don't improve when you get older --- however the medical staff must have some faith in him because they gave him and year contract.

My opinion on macrae is we got a very good player who is far from finished.

This yr is the first time in 11 seasons he has not average 25 or more disposals a game and if you compare him to our best mid in Jack Steele , Jack has played for StKilda now for 8yrs and only had a average of 25 or over twice - but what so impressive about Macrae is he has averaged over 30 in 4 seasons which is a tough feat to do it once.

Macrae has come to the Saints and he will be filthy falling out of favor at the Dogs and will have a point to prove and being a 3 time All Australian I would not ruling he makes that 4.
There would be some real bad vibes at that club with so many good players moving and Macrae leaving on playing 249 games with the Dogs is strange.
Macrae going from one of the best mids in the AFL to being played on a flank , he upset someone.

A fit and healthy Jones will only make our team stronger so I hope he kills it but with the competition for spots is going to be tough to get a gig and he will have to be at the top of his game from day 1.
 
It will be interesting to see which of the second year players come back beating the door down. Wilson is obviously a lock, but Hastie, Collard, McLennan, Garcia and Arie are not best 22 players yet. If one or two of those could take big steps it will really help us.
 
Premium said:
Injury has ruined his career and never been able to show consistency
2024 - 13 games / 5 as sub
2023 - 4 games
2022 - 13 games
2021 - 13 games

He is tough and gives his all and the reason he was given another year , but turning 30 next yr with his past history I doubt we will see more than a handful of games from him.
However he most probably got given another yr due to his work ethic and he is only one of the few experienced older mids we have.
With Steele , Macrae , Windhager , Phillipou , Henry , Wilson , Owens , Pick 7 , pick 8 , Dow , Jones , Clark , Garcia , Stocker
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Max Hall May surprise!
 

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We can dream but Zac was on borderline of being let go.

Macrae has a history of being sound and in 11 seasons of AFL has never played less than 19 games a year and the difference of age between Jones and Macrae is 7 mths and soft tissue injuries don't improve when you get older --- however the medical staff must have some faith in him because they gave him and year contract.

My opinion on macrae is we got a very good player who is far from finished.

This yr is the first time in 11 seasons he has not average 25 or more disposals a game and if you compare him to our best mid in Jack Steele , Jack has played for StKilda now for 8yrs and only had a average of 25 or over twice - but what so impressive about Macrae is he has averaged over 30 in 4 seasons which is a tough feat to do it once.

Macrae has come to the Saints and he will be filthy falling out of favor at the Dogs and will have a point to prove and being a 3 time All Australian I would not ruling he makes that 4.
There would be some real bad vibes at that club with so many good players moving and Macrae leaving on playing 249 games with the Dogs is strange.
Macrae going from one of the best mids in the AFL to being played on a flank , he upset someone.

A fit and healthy Jones will only make our team stronger so I hope he kills it but with the competition for spots is going to be tough to get a gig and he will have to be at the top of his game from day 1.
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This is the quote that really excites me - confirms that he's not just coming over solely for the pension and to educate the kids. He genuinely wants success again

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beside the seaside said:
It will be interesting to see which of the second year players come back beating the door down. Wilson is obviously a lock, but Hastie, Collard, McLennan, Garcia and Arie are not best 22 players yet. If one or two of those could take big steps it will really help us.
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This is what so exciting about our squad we have so much talent on the list anyone of these kids could become anything.
 
Player (age) height

DEFENCE



Key Defenders



Callum Wilke (28) 191

Dougal Howard (28) 199

Zaine Cordy (27) 195

Josh Battle (25) 193 Free Agent (Hawthorn FC)

James van Es (20) 196 Delisted

Arie Schoenmaker (19) 194



Medium Defenders



Jimmy Webster (31) 188

Riley Bonner (27) 190 Delisted

Ben Paton (25) 187 Unsigned

Liam Stocker (24) 184

Liam O'Connell (21) 189

Angus McLennan (21) 188



Offensive Defenders / Outside Mid



Jack Sinclair (29) 181

Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera (21) 187

Angus Hastie (19) 190





MIDFIELD



Inside Mids



Seb Ross (30) 187 Delisted

JacK Macrae (30) 192 Traded in

Brad Crouch (30) 186 Uncertain

Zak Jones (29) 182

Jack Steele (28) 187

Paddy Dow (25) 184

Marcus Windhager (20) 185

Mattaes Phillipou (20) 190

Hugo Garcia (19) 185



Outside Mids/Forwards



Mason Wood (30) 192

Brad Hill (30) 182

Hunter Clark (25) 186

Liam Henry (23) 180

Ryan Byrnes (22) 181

Max Hall (22) 183

Olli Hotton (20) 181 Unsigned

Darcy Wilson (19) 185





RUCK


Rowan Marshall (28) 201

Tom Campbell (31) 201 delisted free agent (Melbourne FC)

Max Heath (21) 204




FORWARDS



Key Forwards


Jack Hayes (28) 194 Unsigned

Max King (24) 202

Cooper Sharman (24) 193

Matthew Allison (22) 195 Delisted

Anthony Caminiti (20) 196

Isaac Keeler (20) 198



Medium Forwards


Tim Membrey (30) 188 Unsigned

Mitch Owens (21) 191



Small Forwards


Dan Butler (28) 182

Jack Higgins (25) 178

Lance Collard (19) 185
 
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Battle has left a hole where we don’t have an obvious replacement as of right now. With a lot of running players on our list like Wilson and Byrnes, could Mason Wood play Battles role? Maybe not all the time but I would feel very confident with his intercepting, kicking, endurance etc. Might help reduce his load as well.
 
Kildonan said:
Player (age) height

DEFENCE



Key Defenders



Callum Wilke (28) 191

Dougal Howard (28) 199

Zaine Cordy (27) 195

Josh Battle (25) 193 Free Agent (Hawthorn FC)

James van Es (20) 196 Delisted

Arie Schoenmaker (19) 194



Medium Defenders



Jimmy Webster (31) 188

Riley Bonner (27) 190 Delisted

Ben Paton (25) 187 Unsigned

Liam Stocker (24) 184

Liam O'Connell (21) 189

Angus McLennan (21) 188



Offensive Defenders / Outside Mid



Jack Sinclair (29) 181

Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera (21) 187

Angus Hastie (19) 190





MIDFIELD



Inside Mids



Seb Ross (30) 187 Delisted

JacK Macrae (30) 192 Traded in

Brad Crouch (30) 186 Uncertain

Zak Jones (29) 182

Jack Steele (28) 187

Paddy Dow (25) 184

Marcus Windhager (20) 185

Mattaes Phillipou (20) 190

Hugo Garcia (19) 185



Outside Mids/Forwards



Mason Wood (30) 192

Brad Hill (30) 182

Hunter Clark (25) 186

Liam Henry (23) 180

Ryan Byrnes (22) 181

Max Hall (22) 183

Olli Hotton (20) 181 Unsigned

Darcy Wilson (19) 185





RUCK


Rowan Marshall (28) 201

Tom Campbell (31) 201 delisted free agent (Melbourne FC)

Max Heath (21) 204




FORWARDS



Key Forwards


Jack Hayes (28) 194 Unsigned

Max King (24) 202

Cooper Sharman (24) 193

Matthew Allison (22) 195 Delisted

Anthony Caminiti (20) 196

Isaac Keeler (20) 198



Medium Forwards


Tim Membrey (30) 188 Unsigned

Mitch Owens (21) 191



Small Forwards


Dan Butler (28) 182

Jack Higgins (25) 178

Lance Collard (19) 185
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Clark is more your inside mid these days.
 
falkstar said:
Battle has left a hole where we don’t have an obvious replacement as of right now. With a lot of running players on our list like Wilson and Byrnes, could Mason Wood play Battles role? Maybe not all the time but I would feel very confident with his intercepting, kicking, endurance etc. Might help reduce his load as well.
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Think it has to be Caminiti, unless Ari can step up quickly, he has the size, just not the know how atm. Or Cordy can rejuvenate himself.
 
Saintscomemarchingin said:
Think it has to be Caminiti, unless Ari can step up quickly, he has the size, just not the know how atm. Or Cordy can rejuvenate himself.
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Just reckon Wood would be almost a seamless transition and get Wilson on the wing. What game(s) did Caminiti play back this year. Want to go look at the tape again and see how he went
 
Wonder if we hunt for a KPD or run with the rumored "Hammer at FB" plan?

Could mean Keeler gets a debut or we run with a smaller front 6, using Owens/Wood as the 3rd tall?

Owens/Wood - King - Garcia
Higgins - Sharman - Butler

We could also bring Cordy is as the forward/ruck. That seemed to work well enough in 2023 and I think I'd prefer Cordy forward & Hammer learning at FB over the reverse...

Owens - King - Butler
Higgins - Sharman - Cordy
 
falkstar said:
Just reckon Wood would be almost a seamless transition and get Wilson on the wing. What game(s) did Caminiti play back this year. Want to go look at the tape again and see how he went
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I can't remember if there were any other times, but I think the second half against Brisbane in round 14 when Cordy was subbed out and Port Adelaide in round 16.
 
October 2024 attempt:

Defenders: Wilkie, Howard, Cordy, Webster, Sinclair, NWM, Stocker
Forwards: King, Sharman, Caminiti, Higgins, Owens, Butler, Henry
Midfielders: Marshall, Macrae, Steele, Phillipou, Wood, Hill, Clark, Wilson, Windhager

Not named: Collard, Crouch, Jones, Dow, Keeler, Byrnes, Hastie, Schoenmakers, Garcia, others not yet signed, draftees
 
falkstar said:
Just reckon Wood would be almost a seamless transition and get Wilson on the wing. What game(s) did Caminiti play back this year. Want to go look at the tape again and see how he went
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Port Adelaide game I think?
And Wood is good in the air, 7kgs lighter than Battle though.
Wood is best as the 3rd tall like Sharman.
 

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