SNFL Div 1 discussion 2022

[Greg Tivendale]

Any results from practice matched over the weekend ?

I went past the peanut farm and watched city vs Hastings.

City won by 100 plus but seemed like Hastings were not much chop at all .

We (St Paul's) had Ormond on Saturday. Started slow but ended up erasing a 4 goal deficit to get the win.

 

[DangerousD]

What's the news on the recruit front?

I know at Dogland we've picked up a few ex. players and juniors:

Liam Sumner (ex Carlton/GWS)
Harry Hunt (ex junior/senior player - Old Haileybury)
Dino Karamoshos (ex junior/senior player - Old Haileybury)
Todd Heynan (Horsham league)

Curtis Murfett is heading off to play country football.

sumner and Hunt are great additions, how do you think you will go this year?

 

[Wild Thing]

sumner and Hunt are great additions, how do you think you will go this year?

What are ladder predictions for this year? I feel the top 4 are quite close, then a bit of gap to a few sides then a gap again to the bottom couple. Should be a good year and hopefully we get a full season in

 

[Opinions are not facts]

What are ladder predictions for this year? I feel the top 4 are quite close, then a bit of gap to a few sides then a gap again to the bottom couple. Should be a good year and hopefully we get a full season in

going to be a really competitive season this year with the addition of Cranbourne.

Dingley every year go in favourites, there is always noise about clubs recruiting but I’ll take what I already know that’s a proven formula. Dingoes have it.

Cranbourne, Port Colts, St Kilda City, St Pauls will also be competitive.

Port seem to have improved although from last year they have lost Mcharg, Bruin, Hosking & Mitch Russell (VFL commitments) but have recruit some fair dinkum A graders!

Interesting about cheltenham have lost some key players right at the death where you would think your key players would be committed and ready to go! Will they slide down the table now? Still a genuine chance to finish top 3.

Early top 5 for mine

Dingley
Cranbourne
Port colts/City/St Pauls/Cheltenham (any of the four could topple the two above but I’ll take the safe option)

East Malvern seem to have maintained the same list

Bentleigh have lost some serious experience

Mordialloc are quiet - don’t know much about what’s happening there

 

[gelder01]

going to be a really competitive season this year with the addition of Cranbourne.

Dingley every year go in favourites, there is always noise about clubs recruiting but I’ll take what I already know that’s a proven formula. Dingoes have it.

Cranbourne, Port Colts, St Kilda City, St Pauls will also be competitive.

Port seem to have improved although from last year they have lost Mcharg, Bruin, Hosking & Mitch Russell (VFL commitments) but have recruit some fair dinkum A graders!

Interesting about cheltenham have lost some key players right at the death where you would think your key players would be committed and ready to go! Will they slide down the table now? Still a genuine chance to finish top 3.

Early top 5 for mine

Dingley
Cranbourne
Port colts/City/St Pauls/Cheltenham (any of the four could topple the two above but I’ll take the safe option)

East Malvern seem to have maintained the same list

Bentleigh have lost some serious experience

Mordialloc are quiet - don’t know much about what’s happening there

Cranbourne then daylight.

 

[sainter01]

going to be a really competitive season this year with the addition of Cranbourne.

Dingley every year go in favourites, there is always noise about clubs recruiting but I’ll take what I already know that’s a proven formula. Dingoes have it.

Cranbourne, Port Colts, St Kilda City, St Pauls will also be competitive.

Port seem to have improved although from last year they have lost Mcharg, Bruin, Hosking & Mitch Russell (VFL commitments) but have recruit some fair dinkum A graders!

Interesting about cheltenham have lost some key players right at the death where you would think your key players would be committed and ready to go! Will they slide down the table now? Still a genuine chance to finish top 3.

Early top 5 for mine

Dingley
Cranbourne
Port colts/City/St Pauls/Cheltenham (any of the four could topple the two above but I’ll take the safe option)

East Malvern seem to have maintained the same list

Bentleigh have lost some serious experience

Mordialloc are quiet - don’t know much about what’s happening there

Cranbourne should dominate, Chelt have still recruited well last 2 interrupted seasons and will be top 3 with Dingley… then who knows

 

[notalegent]

PREDICTIONS FOR ROUND 1

PORT V St KILDA
E. MALVERM V MORDI
CHELTENHAM V DINGLEY
SPRINGVALE V CRANBOURNE
ST PAULS V BENTLEIGH

TOP 5 (In no order) DINGLEY, CRANBOURNE, CHELTENHAM, PORT and ST PAULS. Relegation MORDI, BENTLEIGH and SPRINGVALE.
East Malvern 6th.

 

[2s Hack]

PREDICTIONS FOR ROUND 1

PORT V St KILDA
E. MALVERM V MORDI
CHELTENHAM V DINGLEY
SPRINGVALE V CRANBOURNE
ST PAULS V BENTLEIGH

TOP 5 (In no order) DINGLEY, CRANBOURNE, CHELTENHAM, PORT and ST PAULS. Relegation MORDI, BENTLEIGH and SPRINGVALE.
East Malvern 6th.

East Malvern might be lucky to field a reserves side. Saw them training a month ago with only 20 on the track, basically doing circle work based drills. Depth might be tested during winter

 

[Jane Doe]

I see Brett O’Hanlon has signed at Mordi a good recruit for them

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Huge win by city… under estimate them at your peril..

 

[Opinions are not facts]

Huge win by city… under estimate them at your peril..

Didn’t see that coming, is city fair dinkum or is port not the team we think they are. Early doors - but that’s a statement.

 

[Sth Melb Hellas]

The floodlight failure came at a good time.

 

[notalegent]

Big winners Mordi, ST K C.
Big disappointment East Malvern
Steady as she goes. Dingley, St Pauls and Dingley.

 

[notalegent]

Big winners Mordi, ST K C.
Big disappointment East Malvern
Steady as she goes. Dingley, St Pauls and Cranbourne

 

[Billy Blogs]

Holt a lazy 5 yesterday in his day he was unstoppable one of the best local players going around

 

[gelder01]

Holt a lazy 5 yesterday in his day he was unstoppable one of the best local players going around.

Some supporters at yesterday’s game have tested positive for Covid. Please monitor for symptoms if you were at Springy Res. yesterday.
This will be a common occurrence throughout the season for sure for local sports.
Cheers

 

[Greg Tivendale]

sumner and Hunt are great additions, how do you think you will go this year?

Think the boys will be in the mix for finals. Decent core that are a fairly tight knit bunch which seems to get the best out of them in terms of competitiveness and effort.

Can we talk about the last touch rule with games that didn't have boundary umpires? How did those who played with the rule go?

Why aren't clubs allowed to provide a boundary umpire each just so we can get a proper game of football?

 

[DangerousD]

Think the boys will be in the mix for finals. Decent core that are a fairly tight knit bunch which seems to get the best out of them in terms of competitiveness and effort.

Can we talk about the last touch rule with games that didn't have boundary umpires? How did those who played with the rule go?

Why aren't clubs allowed to provide a boundary umpire each just so we can get a proper game of football?

im not sure what rule you’re talking about, I just follow the Dogs from afar and try get to a few games a season.

But reading between the lines on your comment, how do you have senior football with no boundary umpires? How hard would it be for the clubs to find someone to do it?

I use to do boundary umpiring as a youngster, $15 and a can of coke, it would be an easy fix.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

im not sure what rule you’re talking about, I just follow the Dogs from afar and try get to a few games a season.

But reading between the lines on your comment, how do you have senior football with no boundary umpires? How hard would it be for the clubs to find someone to do it?

I use to do boundary umpiring as a youngster, $15 and a can of coke, it would be an easy fix.

Nothing easy about it, player numbers are at an all-time low and volunteers are even lower. People simply do not / will not do it.

 

[Scotty_222]

Umpires didn’t know the rules. They were changing it through the qtrs. Pretty embarrassing

 

[DangerousD]

Nothing easy about it, player numbers are at an all-time low and volunteers are even lower. People simply do not / will not do it.

With all the people and families involved at a football club, I find it really hard to believe that every club can’t find a person willing to do 2 hours work, one day per week.

I don’t mean volunteer by the way, I mean pay someone. It was over 20 years ago when I did it and I got paid, wouldn’t have done it otherwise.

I have noticed lots of posters mention lack of player numbers, it’s quite concerning, but umpiring is a job and for a division 1 football comp not to have them, is bad.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

With all the people and families involved at a football club, I find it really hard to believe that every club can’t find a person willing to do 2 hours work, one day per week.

I don’t mean volunteer by the way, I mean pay someone. It was over 20 years ago when I did it and I got paid, wouldn’t have done it otherwise.

I have noticed lots of posters mention lack of player numbers, it’s quite concerning, but umpiring is a job and for a division 1 football comp not to have them, is bad.

It's very difficult.

You can pay $30 plus a feed / drink but it can still be hard.

Keep in mind for each team (senior clubs have 2-3 teams for men only) you need a team manager, gate attendants, boundary umpire, goal umpire, timekeeper, runner, water carriers, umpire escort.

Plus you have a BBQ, canteen, bar etc which all need running across an 8 hour day.

Committee roles, fundraising, social media, assistant coaches / football dept...

The workload for volunteers is an all-time high and they've never been harder to get. Pretty sure AFL Vic have recognised it as a major issue for local footy

You have less people around clubs these days and those that are there see it as their right to relax and drink piss, not work.

 

[leftfootkick]

Holt a lazy 5 yesterday in his day he was unstoppable one of the best local players going around

Think the boys will be in the mix for finals. Decent core that are a fairly tight knit bunch which seems to get the best out of them in terms of competitiveness and effort.

Can we talk about the last touch rule with games that didn't have boundary umpires? How did those who played with the rule go?

Why aren't clubs allowed to provide a boundary umpire each just so we can get a proper game of football?

Good win by your boys on the weekend (Seniors) tough one for the 2s.

Re: umpires and last touch out of bounds rule. Simply the league wants consistency across the board. Clubs have expressed concerns over finding volunteers on Match Days (not forgetting you also need volunteers to run the canteen, time keeper, scoreboard, water carriers etc) and trying to find someone to run boundary on top of that in the twos is difficult enough. The clubs agreed with the league on the out of bounce rule.

League is extremely short on umpires. In 15 years, umpires wages have gone up less then $35. Players wages… depending on who you speak to has increased anywhere from $200+.

Div 1 Senior Umpire = $140 per game
Div 1 Top Senior Players = $400-$800 per game

If the umpires were paid fair wages you’d have a lot more put up their hand to do the job and eliminate the issue of this out of bounce rule.

Two cents worth.

Anyway, good to have footy back.

 

[leftfootkick]

Bunk Moreland - Beat me to it.

 

[Greg Tivendale]

Good win by your boys on the weekend (Seniors) tough one for the 2s.

Re: umpires and last touch out of bounds rule. Simply the league wants consistency across the board. Clubs have expressed concerns over finding volunteers on Match Days (not forgetting you also need volunteers to run the canteen, time keeper, scoreboard, water carriers etc) and trying to find someone to run boundary on top of that in the twos is difficult enough. The clubs agreed with the league on the out of bounce rule.

League is extremely short on umpires. In 15 years, umpires wages have gone up less then $35. Players wages… depending on who you speak to has increased anywhere from $200+.

Div 1 Senior Umpire = $140 per game
Div 1 Top Senior Players = $400-$800 per game

If the umpires were paid fair wages you’d have a lot more put up their hand to do the job and eliminate the issue of this out of bounce rule.

Two cents worth.

Anyway, good to have footy back.

Yep all very valid points and I'm in agreeance.

I would think that if we had players miss a game, or someone coming back from injury (no issues with running etc) then they'd put their hand up to help out. I think most players would prefer this than play the rule.

The issue I found on the weekend was consistency in the application of the rule. First was told last touch, then told it was only for "last clear possession" but then continued to see calls get made when it bounced out of a contest or off a players body.

Gone are the days where "The boundary line is your best friend" haha.