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Kbroome said:
If you can't see that this is clearly a Melbourne based reporter that has zero knowledge of the Swans and especially of those that could break into the 23 then i can't help you.

Doesn't mention Snell, Edwards, Mitchell, Co Warner, Hanily

Talks about Wicks as a small forward when he has been training as a defender

Also the best 23 is just the same team as the GF side but replace Fox with Mills and Parker with Adams when Cox's main focus has been fitness, forward pressure and contest...
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It was Mills, and starting all 3 of the talls in the 18 that did it for me
 

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Bloods86 said:
Why should Bice get a mention? He's played zero games at the level.

I agree the mention of Campbell at HB is off, he's just going by past use. Though I'm not confident we'll use him differently.

Campbell should be at HF, backup on the wing to Gulden and Jmac, but after Florent as well.
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To pick up a 24yo hbf at a selection that was still pretty valuable, surely they think Bice is ready to go.
 
tombomb said:
To pick up a 24yo hbf at a selection that was still pretty valuable, surely they think Bice is ready to go.
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I actually think it's the other way around.

If people see him as better than Blakey or Florent i.e. who he would replace as attacking half backs in the 22, then I'm not sure why people aren't angry that we didn't pick him earlier and risked missing out.

If he's good enough to be in the 22 as some believe, and not replacing like for like, that's a mistake imo. We don't need another attacking HB. We have the two above, plus Jmac is capable. Sure Lloyd might be in danger but he was often pushed out of defence anyway and would better strengthen other areas if replaced.

I think he (Bice) was drafted as mature age depth and hasn't played a game at the level yet, so probably doesn't warrant too many mentions in Best 22/23 discussions.

He could turn it on in pre season games sure, but it should be Blakey or Florent in the gun, though maybe the latter moves elsewhere opening a spot at HB as 2nd fiddle to Blakey.
 
Bloods86 said:
I actually think it's the other way around.

If people see him as better than Blakey or Florent i.e. who he would replace as attacking half backs in the 22, then I'm not sure why people aren't angry that we didn't pick him earlier and risked missing out.

If he's good enough to be in the 22 as some believe, and not replacing like for like, that's a mistake imo. We don't need another attacking HB. We have the two above, plus Jmac is capable. Sure Lloyd might be in danger but he was often pushed out of defence anyway and would better strengthen other areas if replaced.

I think he (Bice) was drafted as mature age depth and hasn't played a game at the level yet, so probably doesn't warrant too many mentions in Best 22/23 discussions.

He could turn it on in pre season games sure, but it should be Blakey or Florent in the gun, though maybe the latter moves elsewhere opening a spot at HB as 2nd fiddle to Blakey.
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It doesn't make any sense that we would have drafted Bice where we drafted him unless we think he is going to be capable of playing seniors in 2025, and not just as an injury backup. Doesn't mean he will definitely be in the team against Hawthorn though.
 
tombomb said:
It doesn't make any sense that we would have drafted Bice where we drafted him unless we think he is going to be capable of playing seniors in 2025, and not just as an injury backup. Doesn't mean he will definitely be in the team against Hawthorn though.
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Sure, but I'm more responding to discussions/that article about Best 22/23 which given the lack of any related players being ruled out, is for Round 0. He could come into the team based on form issues as well, but if people see him as better than Blakey or Florent already i.e. he's straight in, then we shouldn't have waited til the 40s.

This started because Campbell was mentioned at half back, but Bice wasn't.

Personally I don't think either are in the discussions to play at half back in our current Best 22/23. Campbell because he should be elsewhere. Bice because, well, why would he be, we have several other attacking HB types in the 22 and we haven't seen him play against an AFL side yet.
 
Bloods86 said:
Sure, but I'm more responding to discussions/that article about Best 22/23 which given the lack of any related players being ruled out, is for Round 0. He could come into the team based on form issues as well, but if people see him as better than Blakey or Florent already i.e. he's straight in, then we shouldn't have waited til the 40s.

This started because Campbell was mentioned at half back, but Bice wasn't.

Personally I don't think either are in the discussions to play at half back in our current Best 22/23. Campbell because he should be elsewhere. Bice because, well, why would he be, we have several other attacking HB types in the 22 and we haven't seen him play against an AFL side yet.
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All things be equal, I think Bice is going to be right in the frame for round zero.
 
tombomb said:
All things be equal, I think Bice is going to be right in the frame for round zero.
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Ok, I just think for that to happen, Blakey or Florent drop off considerably to lose their spot, or we're making a mistake in bringing in another attacking flanker, despite being shown up in the contest and pressure when it counts.
 
Bloods86 said:
Ok, I just think for that to happen, Blakey or Florent drop off considerably to lose their spot, or we're making a mistake in bringing in another attacking flanker, despite being shown up in the contest and pressure when it counts.
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I don't think Bice, or anyone else, getting a game is dependant on Florent not getting picked.

Blakey clearly isn't going to be playing reserves unless something goes horribly wrong with his form.

There are spots available in our team for anyone who is good enough. We aren't that good.
 
tombomb said:
I don't think Bice, or anyone else, getting a game is dependant on Florent not getting picked.

Blakey clearly isn't going to be playing reserves unless something goes horribly wrong with his form.

There are spots available in our team for anyone who is good enough. We aren't that good.
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Yes, but the fact we weren't good enough in the contest and pressure, isn't going to be addressed by adding more attacking half backs.
 

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