Opinion Sack Hinkley 5 - Lower The Blinds

[Kickpuncher]

Finally Ken getting some attention! 0-3 is the worst start to a Port season since 2011. If it's 0-4 after Thursday night it will be worst start to a season since 2008.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2022-all-the-port-adelaide-news-ahead-of-round-4/news-story/9c0eae8d3d3e7d65c3fb49bc1036b908

"After the past two Power games, “Ken Hinkley” has been trending on Twitter, and the vast majority of posts about the Port senior coach were at the very best questioning whether his 10th season should be his last".

Prior to the Showdown Charlie Dixon said he was sick of the negativity.

“Just support us, get behind us, let’s go and do it together. Do you want to do it together or do you want to jump off,” he said on FIVEaa.

“I’m sick of it.”

Port chairman David Koch says the “intense pressure” on Hinkley in South Australia makes “AFL gurus in Victoria shake their head”.

But after the loss in the Showdown this pressure is only to get more intense with more and more fans appearing to have made up their minds".

Charlie can **** off too if thats his mentality.

 

[Mikey13G]

Charlie Dixon reminds me of that little girl with the punchable face on the AFLW ad's where she says "dont compare us, join us"

He's entitled to his views, but I guess I've "jumped off" until Ken is gone.

 

[JimmyBC]

Finally Ken getting some attention! 0-3 is the worst start to a Port season since 2011. If it's 0-4 after Thursday night it will be worst start to a season since 2008.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2022-all-the-port-adelaide-news-ahead-of-round-4/news-story/9c0eae8d3d3e7d65c3fb49bc1036b908

"After the past two Power games, “Ken Hinkley” has been trending on Twitter, and the vast majority of posts about the Port senior coach were at the very best questioning whether his 10th season should be his last".

Prior to the Showdown Charlie Dixon said he was sick of the negativity.

“Just support us, get behind us, let’s go and do it together. Do you want to do it together or do you want to jump off,” he said on FIVEaa.

“I’m sick of it.”

Port chairman David Koch says the “intense pressure” on Hinkley in South Australia makes “AFL gurus in Victoria shake their head”.

But after the loss in the Showdown this pressure is only to get more intense with more and more fans appearing to have made up their minds".

“I’m sick of it.” yea well tough shit Charlie I'm pretty sick of you, if you are happy with achieving three 5th's of fukc all you can piss off too.

 

[AFC AFeederClub]

He's entitled to his views, but I guess I've "jumped off" until Ken is gone.

you got the first 2 words right 'he's entitled'

 

[tribey]

Like, how do you lose 75% of games at your home ground in one season (2016) and survive, let alone still be there after three subsequent seasons without a solitary winning final? It’s absolutely unreal, the truckload of dogsh¡t we’re supposed to be grateful for:

R01 vs St Kilda W 33
R02 vs Adelaide L 58
R03 vs Essendon W 61
R05 vs Geelong L 48
R07 vs Brisbane W 77
R09 vs WCE, L 8
R12 vs Bulldogs, L 3
R15 vs Richmond, W 38
R16 vs Hawthorn, L 22
R18 vs GWS, L 19
R21 vs Melbourne, L 40
R22 vs Adelaide, L 15

4-8-0 — wins vs 18th, 17th, 13th, 9th.

 

[Steve Dore]

INSIDE THE BRILLIANT MIND OF KEN HINKLEY

 

[RossFC]

What a legend!

Might start putting up a few around the east side with RossFC

My fat arse aint walking to the other side of the stadium.

 

[StrappingTape]

Kane now blaming the Trade Period when Buckley says our coaching was abysmal:

The “most concerning thing” out of Port Adelaide’s Showdown loss

"There’s something not quite right at Port."

www.sen.com.au

FML

 

[Ilias M]

 

[Willsy10]

Wayne Schimmelbusch was sacked in the preseason in 1993 when Adelaide beat North by 20 goals in the Ansett Cup competition. Dennis Pagan was appointed. North made finals in a 20 game season and Final 6, but lost the 3rd v 6th final to defending premiers WCE who finished 6th, then got to 7 PFs in a row, and made 3 GFs.

Shimma was sacked so early it gave North Melbourne a chance to interview candidates and appoint their replacement senior coach prior to round 1 though?

If we sack Hinkley today, can we replace him? Or do we just run with an interim coach such as Monty for the rest of the season and be another coach down after losing Schofield and Voss and not replacing either of them.

Has it been explained by anyone at board level why we decided that we didn't need to replace our two best assistant coaches?

 

[bomberclifford]

Has it been explained by anyone at board level why we decided that we didn't need to replace our two best assistant coaches?

 

[Sewer de Lance]

• 2013 — 12-10, out in SF (supporter mood: universal 100% approval rating). Big Recruit: Polec added in the subsequent off-season.

• 2014 — 14-8 after starting 11-2, out in PF (supporter mood: some murmurings about neglecting structure and forward inefficiency, still very high approval rating). Big Recruit: Ryder added in the subsequent off-season.

• 2015 — 12-10 and missed the 8 including losses to 17th and 18th despite being a genuine flag fancy (supporter mood: people disappointed, but general consensus is year was a blip in a manner similar to Geelong’s 2006) Big Recruit: Dixon added in the subsequent off-season.

2016 — 10-12 and missed the 8 in a year marked by narrow losses and a few beltings at the hands of contenders (supporter mood: more people are beginning to realise this guy ain’t it). The early days of ‘The Portress’ are long gone as we lose 8 times at the venue in one season alone. Big Recruit: nil

2017 — 14-8, out in EF. In a season marked by easy wins over also-rans but constant losses to contenders, the low-point is an 84pt Showdown belting on the eve of finals (supporter mood: the post-season bumper contract extension fractures the fanbase between the outraged and delighted, not least because CEO Keith Thomas deems the year ‘a pass mark’). Big recruits: Rockliff, Motlop and Watts added in the subsequent off-season.

2018 — 12-10 and miss the eight from an 11-4 start (supporter mood: dissenters can only weep and ask, “how long is he now contracted to?”). Made worse by the fact most saw some sort of collapse coming, as the first 15 rounds were some of the least convincing wins ever recorded. Big Recruits: Scott Lycett and Ryan Burton join hyped draftees Rozee/Butters/Duursma as Chad Wingard, Jared Polec and Jasper Pittard are sacrificed in a list pivot in the subsequent off-season.

2019 — 11-11 and miss the eight (supporter mood: most sane people are apoplectic that Ken has effectively torched 5 whole years of what was supposed to be a premiership window, with absolutely nothing to show for it). Year is punctuated by a massive upset loss to 15th-placed North Melbourne, whose ruckman and full-forward dominate while Lycett and Howard languish in the reserves. CEO Keith Thomas complains that Ken doesn’t get enough credit for the year, ‘selflessly’ playing ‘kids’, while the team is full of 30 year olds. Gerard Whateley lectures Port fans who have had enough for allegedly being unrealistic to expect success. Big Recruit: nil.

2020 — Minor Premiers, out in PF (supporter mood: what just happened?). COVID turns the entire season into an ethereal sh¡tshow of asterisks, but when the smoke clears, Port misses a golden opportunity to win through to their first GF since 2007, with the added incentive of it being on neutral territory in Queensland, rather than in the belly of the beast. Koch rewards Ken with another extension, because apparently actually contending as expected for the first time in six seasons is an achievement above and beyond the head coach’s remit. Expectations ramp up. Big Recruit: Aliir Aliir and Orazio Fantasia join in the subsequent off-season.

2021 — 17-5, out in PF (supporter mood: humiliation, rage, PTSD, p¡ss off back to Camperdown already). In a return to partial normality, Port picks up where it left off and makes it back to the pointy end, this time getting blown apart in a home Prelim by an injury-riddled Dogs outfit who’d logged more flight miles than Apollo 11, and again missing out on a neutral-venue shot at a flag. A buoyant Hinkley who had bragged that supporters should judge things at the end of the year after the victorious Geelong QF, now says supporters shouldn’t judge things on one result a quick fortnight later, in the aftermath of the club’s heaviest home defeat since 2011. Big Recruit: Jordan Dawson Jeremy Finlayson joins in the off-season.

And the ride’s still not over.

Great summary mate, thanks.

I have great memories of 2013/14, absolutely gutted by the PF Hawks loss.

2015-19 rinse & repeat mediocrity

2020 Covid year - minor Premiers but not surprised by PF loss

2021 - Humiliated in a home PF - for me personally, the most disappointing season of the narcissist‘s reign.

Undoubtedly, our best brand of footy was when Walsh & Richardson were present in the coaches box.

 

[Willsy10]

For a club that claimed they wanted to win the flag this year, it was odd to go back to the old MyATM days of coaching resources.

 

[bomberclifford]

For a club that claimed they wanted to win the flag this year, it was odd to go back to the old MyATM days of coaching resources.

Totally agree.

I just wish they'd be upfront with us members about why that is.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Shimma was sacked so early it gave North Melbourne a chance to interview candidates and appoint their replacement senior coach prior to round 1 though?

If we sack Hinkley today, can we replace him? Or do we just run with an interim coach such as Monty for the rest of the season and be another coach down after losing Schofield and Voss and not replacing either of them.

Has it been explained by anyone at board level why we decided that we didn't need to replace our two best assistant coaches?

Who cares?

We can't really get worse.

In fact given we can't win the flag it could be argued we'd be better off being worse.

Get a new coach in, play more kids and get ready to go again next year.

 

[Willsy10]

Who cares?

We can't really get worse.

We probably can get much worse unfortunately.

 

[philreich]

Classic Hinkley coaching trait #3255:

Get to 4-5 goals up. "Protect the lead" instead of continuing to attack.

Result - instead of blowing away poor teams we let them back in and give them belief. Anyone half decent runs over the top of us easily.

Hence his nickname - Minibus, because he's half a coach.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Dixon's statement is literally like me doing a shit job at work, and my boss asking me about it and me saying "I'm sick of you asking questions, just get behind me!"

 

[Schulzenfest]

David King just last week was saying Port need to stick with Hinkley while they go through a mini rebuild. The guy is an idiot.

Reminiscent of Kane saying preseason that it's a GF or nothing, then walking those comments back immediately when it became clear we wouldn't get near a GF.

So much of the media discourse about Ken seems to be 'Ken is coaching poorly and hasn't achieved anything in ten years, however ???, therefore the club needs to back him in!' They rarely even bother to try to fill in the blank.

 

[Schulzenfest]

• 2013 — 12-10, out in SF (supporter mood: universal 100% approval rating). Big Recruit: Polec added in the subsequent off-season.

• 2014 — 14-8 after starting 11-2, out in PF (supporter mood: some murmurings about neglecting structure and forward inefficiency, still very high approval rating). Big Recruit: Ryder added in the subsequent off-season.

• 2015 — 12-10 and missed the 8 including losses to 17th and 18th despite being a genuine flag fancy (supporter mood: people disappointed, but general consensus is year was a blip in a manner similar to Geelong’s 2006) Big Recruit: Dixon added in the subsequent off-season.

2016 — 10-12 and missed the 8 in a year marked by narrow losses and a few beltings at the hands of contenders (supporter mood: more people are beginning to realise this guy ain’t it). The early days of ‘The Portress’ are long gone as we lose 8 times at the venue in one season alone. Big Recruit: nil

2017 — 14-8, out in EF. In a season marked by easy wins over also-rans but constant losses to contenders, the low-point is an 84pt Showdown belting on the eve of finals (supporter mood: the post-season bumper contract extension fractures the fanbase between the outraged and delighted, not least because CEO Keith Thomas deems the year ‘a pass mark’). Big recruits: Rockliff, Motlop and Watts added in the subsequent off-season.

2018 — 12-10 and miss the eight from an 11-4 start (supporter mood: dissenters can only weep and ask, “how long is he now contracted to?”). Made worse by the fact most saw some sort of collapse coming, as the first 15 rounds were some of the least convincing wins ever recorded. Big Recruits: Scott Lycett and Ryan Burton join hyped draftees Rozee/Butters/Duursma as Chad Wingard, Jared Polec and Jasper Pittard are sacrificed in a list pivot in the subsequent off-season.

2019 — 11-11 and miss the eight (supporter mood: most sane people are apoplectic that Ken has effectively torched 5 whole years of what was supposed to be a premiership window, with absolutely nothing to show for it). Year is punctuated by a massive upset loss to 15th-placed North Melbourne, whose ruckman and full-forward dominate while Lycett and Howard languish in the reserves. CEO Keith Thomas complains that Ken doesn’t get enough credit for the year, ‘selflessly’ playing ‘kids’, while the team is full of 30 year olds. Gerard Whateley lectures Port fans who have had enough for allegedly being unrealistic to expect success. Big Recruit: nil.

2020 — Minor Premiers, out in PF (supporter mood: what just happened?). COVID turns the entire season into an ethereal sh¡tshow of asterisks, but when the smoke clears, Port misses a golden opportunity to win through to their first GF since 2007, with the added incentive of it being on neutral territory in Queensland, rather than in the belly of the beast. Koch rewards Ken with another extension, because apparently actually contending as expected for the first time in six seasons is an achievement above and beyond the head coach’s remit. Expectations ramp up. Big Recruit: Aliir Aliir and Orazio Fantasia join in the subsequent off-season.

2021 — 17-5, out in PF (supporter mood: humiliation, rage, PTSD, p¡ss off back to Camperdown already). In a return to partial normality, Port picks up where it left off and makes it back to the pointy end, this time getting blown apart in a home Prelim by an injury-riddled Dogs outfit who’d logged more flight miles than Apollo 11, and again missing out on a neutral-venue shot at a flag. A buoyant Hinkley who had bragged that supporters should judge things at the end of the year after the victorious Geelong QF, now says supporters shouldn’t judge things on one result a quick fortnight later, in the aftermath of the club’s heaviest home defeat since 2011. Big Recruit: Jordan Dawson Jeremy Finlayson joins in the off-season.

And the ride’s still not over.

I think an important thing to note about this is that all these extensions came with a year or more remaining on Ken's contract. Not once in his 10 seasons has he ever even been in the last 12 months in a deal. And yet we still get complaints that the club is somehow too hard on him.

 

[DaTBird187]

Commented Sack Hinkley on a Port Facebook post, and Erin Phillips love reacted the comment ahahahha

I got that too, as well as a reply saying I had won a prize and to visit her website.

I assume she's been hacked.

 

[Arsene Wenger]

Its easy to pot in the media, I agree with this, however, Kingy's point that Ken didnt think to put a spare back at all in the last 5 minutes is spot on. Coaching 101. I said myself watching, why is Marshall or Geogiades not back in the hole. There are then two examples where such a spare would have marked the footy.

Literally, Ken and his goons could have made as basic a move and we win the game....

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Shimma was sacked so early it gave North Melbourne a chance to interview candidates and appoint their replacement senior coach prior to round 1 though?

If we sack Hinkley today, can we replace him? Or do we just run with an interim coach such as Monty for the rest of the season and be another coach down after losing Schofield and Voss and not replacing either of them.

Has it been explained by anyone at board level why we decided that we didn't need to replace our two best assistant coaches?

Nah they didn't interview anyone, they basically gave the job to Pagan straight away, who had won about 5 flags in the U/19's over a decade, had missed out on the job previously, had coach about 15-20 of the players on the list, then when the U/19s was wound up at end of 1991, he went to Essendon to assist Sheedy and coached Essendon reserves to the 1992 flag.

Edit Pagan coach North's U/19s to a flag in 1987, 1988, 1990 and 1991, so along with the Essendon reserves flag he had coached a premiership in 5 of the previous 6 seasons.

 

[Doctor Feel]

If we sack Bassett OR Ken, or both, and we suddenly have better forward entries they will never coach anywhere ever again that isn't bell park.

 

[PortWTF]

• 2013 — 12-10, out in SF (supporter mood: universal 100% approval rating). Big Recruit: Polec added in the subsequent off-season.

• 2014 — 14-8 after starting 11-2, out in PF (supporter mood: some murmurings about neglecting structure and forward inefficiency, still very high approval rating). Big Recruit: Ryder added in the subsequent off-season.

• 2015 — 12-10 and missed the 8 including losses to 17th and 18th despite being a genuine flag fancy (supporter mood: people disappointed, but general consensus is year was a blip in a manner similar to Geelong’s 2006) Big Recruit: Dixon added in the subsequent off-season.

2016 — 10-12 and missed the 8 in a year marked by narrow losses and a few beltings at the hands of contenders (supporter mood: more people are beginning to realise this guy ain’t it). The early days of ‘The Portress’ are long gone as we lose 8 times at the venue in one season alone. Big Recruit: nil

2017 — 14-8, out in EF. In a season marked by easy wins over also-rans but constant losses to contenders, the low-point is an 84pt Showdown belting on the eve of finals (supporter mood: the post-season bumper contract extension fractures the fanbase between the outraged and delighted, not least because CEO Keith Thomas deems the year ‘a pass mark’). Big recruits: Rockliff, Motlop and Watts added in the subsequent off-season.

2018 — 12-10 and miss the eight from an 11-4 start (supporter mood: dissenters can only weep and ask, “how long is he now contracted to?”). Made worse by the fact most saw some sort of collapse coming, as the first 15 rounds were some of the least convincing wins ever recorded. Big Recruits: Scott Lycett and Ryan Burton join hyped draftees Rozee/Butters/Duursma as Chad Wingard, Jared Polec and Jasper Pittard are sacrificed in a list pivot in the subsequent off-season.

2019 — 11-11 and miss the eight (supporter mood: most sane people are apoplectic that Ken has effectively torched 5 whole years of what was supposed to be a premiership window, with absolutely nothing to show for it). Year is punctuated by a massive upset loss to 15th-placed North Melbourne, whose ruckman and full-forward dominate while Lycett and Howard languish in the reserves. CEO Keith Thomas complains that Ken doesn’t get enough credit for the year, ‘selflessly’ playing ‘kids’, while the team is full of 30 year olds. Gerard Whateley lectures Port fans who have had enough for allegedly being unrealistic to expect success. Big Recruit: nil.

2020 — Minor Premiers, out in PF (supporter mood: what just happened?). COVID turns the entire season into an ethereal sh¡tshow of asterisks, but when the smoke clears, Port misses a golden opportunity to win through to their first GF since 2007, with the added incentive of it being on neutral territory in Queensland, rather than in the belly of the beast. Koch rewards Ken with another extension, because apparently actually contending as expected for the first time in six seasons is an achievement above and beyond the head coach’s remit. Expectations ramp up. Big Recruit: Aliir Aliir and Orazio Fantasia join in the subsequent off-season.

2021 — 17-5, out in PF (supporter mood: humiliation, rage, PTSD, p¡ss off back to Camperdown already). In a return to partial normality, Port picks up where it left off and makes it back to the pointy end, this time getting blown apart in a home Prelim by an injury-riddled Dogs outfit who’d logged more flight miles than Apollo 11, and again missing out on a neutral-venue shot at a flag. A buoyant Hinkley who had bragged that supporters should judge things at the end of the year after the victorious Geelong QF, now says supporters shouldn’t judge things on one result a quick fortnight later, in the aftermath of the club’s heaviest home defeat since 2011. Big Recruit: Jordan Dawson Jeremy Finlayson joins in the off-season.

And the ride’s still not over.

What a terrific list

I'd like to add

2015-2016: Radical shift in game-style going away from what in the end was similar to how teams are playing now.
2017-2019: Refusal to play to a correct football structure, instead choosing best 22 on their individual capabilities. Moves our best midfielder to half forward.
2020: Finds a winning point of difference with the forward half game, but without a coherent strategy for scoring. The "gameplan by stats".
2021: Persist with the same plan, despite new rules intended to stop teams being locked in their own half. Get lucky to match up with the Geriatric Cats in week 1 of finals.
2022: Whatever the hell this is supposed to be.