Rumour Rumors of cat player in big trouble

[flagpies2323]

When would the suppression order end is it before or after the application on the 8th of this month or when the committal mention starts ?

 

[mighty_lions]

So either way no one is going to ask about it, everyone knows.

So what’s the ****ing issue with listing it as a finger injury?

Let me try spell it out for you

Option A - list it as a finger injury

Outcome A - everyone knows the real reason, no one asks questions

Option B - list him as unavailable/personal reasons/don’t list him at all (and whichever other suggestions have been made in this forum)

Outcome B - everyone knows the real reason, no one asks questions

So I put it to you - what’s your ****ing issue with it if the outcome is the same? We haven’t had the wool pulled over our eyes thinking the player in question may never be able to pick up a biro again, we are all able to deduce the most likely scenario here.

option c dont list him at all

Outcome C hes not listed and no one is asking

 

[BF Tiger]

It’s all rather moot isn’t it? We all know who it is and we all know why. And we’ve known since day dot.

It’s not really the issue either.

 

[mighty_lions]

It’s all rather moot isn’t it? We all know who it is and we all know why. And we’ve known since day dot.

It’s not really the issue either.

we on big footy/twitter/reddit do but does the average Joe football watcher know or do they just assume he must have a finger injury

 

[Hollow Knight]

option c dont list him at all

Outcome C hes not listed and no one is asking

Delusional. Let it go.

 

[PenAndPaper]

option c dont list him at all

Outcome C hes not listed and no one is asking

Do you think that someone who is a best 22 player and is not playing AND not listed on the injury list would have nobody talking about why they aren't playing?
You're absolutely delusional if you think they wouldn't lol

 

[BF Tiger]

we on big footy/twitter/reddit do but does the average Joe football watcher know or do they just assume he must have a finger injury

I'm not sure what your point is.

Those who know footy know.

Those who don't know don't know.

It's not that different from scandal in any field (eg some academic is accused of sexual assault and is stood down by his/her institution while an investigation takes place. Those who move in those circles know, those who don't don't know).

 

[mighty_lions]

I'm not sure what your point is.

Those who know footy know.

Those who don't know don't know.

It's not that different from scandal in any field (eg some academic is accused of sexual assault and is stood down by his/her institution while an investigation takes place. Those who move in those circles know, those who don't don't know).

I know what your saying but the finger injury is at the point where its just trying to deceive the public, since when does the afl have an obligation to hide it, they cant say anything but they sure dont have to go along with deceiving the public

Also posters previously posted that I have no idea what im talking about and he does have a finger injury, well which is it

 

[BF Tiger]

I know what your saying but the finger injury is at the point where its just trying to deceive the public, since when does the afl have an obligation to hide it, they cant say anything but they sure dont have to go along with deceiving the public

Yes, my point works both ways.

 

[Mr Meow]

we on big footy/twitter/reddit do but does the average Joe football watcher know or do they just assume he must have a finger injury

Wow you are still going. This is lasting weeks.

 

[WillHayward]

When would the suppression order end is it before or after the application on the 8th of this month or when the committal mention starts ?

Probably goes until the judge decides it ends...

Also don't see why the SO doesn't apply just to naming victims in sexual assault matters.

Shouldn't be a special carve out for footy players.

The presumption is open courts.

 

[cats_09]

Probably goes until the judge decides it ends...

Also don't see why the SO doesn't apply just to naming victims in sexual assault matters.

Shouldn't be a special carve out for footy players.

The presumption is open courts.

Nothing to do with footy players and not special to them

At the time of the one Herald Sun article on this particular case, they said it's the third case of a similar nature going back to Oct/Nov where a suppression order had been issued following charges being laid and there was no suggestion the defendants in the other cases are public figures

 

[WillHayward]

Nothing to do with footy players and not special to them

At the time of the one Herald Sun article on this particular case, they said it's the third case of a similar nature going back to Oct/Nov where a suppression order had been issued following charges being laid and there was no suggestion the defendants in the other cases are public figures

It's done on a case by case basis.
Presumption is on open courts and we have a thing called the open courts act.
So might not be special treatment for footy players but might be special treatment for people with money/legal rep.
VIc crt system is ridiculously backed up and over worked.
It's become very slow.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

It's done on a case by case basis.
Presumption is on open courts and we have a thing called the open courts act.
So might not be special treatment for footy players but might be special treatment for people with money/legal rep.
VIc crt system is ridiculously backed up and over worked.
It's become very slow.

There are more suppression orders in Victoria than probably any other jurisdiction in the world, it's far from "open courts"

Secret business

 

[Muddiemoose]

It's done on a case by case basis.
Presumption is on open courts and we have a thing called the open courts act.
So might not be special treatment for footy players but might be special treatment for people with money/legal rep.
VIc crt system is ridiculously backed up and over worked.
It's become very slow.

In Victoria all cases that involve charges of SA have a suppression order applied in order to protect the victim

No special treatment at all it’s a law that applies to all

“It is a crime to publish any details likely to identify a victim-survivor of a sexual offence. This law has been in place since 1991. It is intended to protect victim-survivors’ privacy and encourage reporting and prosecution of sexual offending”

Making it easier for victim-survivors of sexual offences to tell their stories

Information about recent reforms to the Judicial Proceedings Reports Act (JPRA) and how to express your interest in further consultation on how the law applies to deceased victims.

www.justice.vic.gov.au

 

[HTPunter]

option c dont list him at all

Outcome C hes not listed and no one is asking

Which is the same as option A, outcome A, option B & outcome B.

FFS

 

[mighty_lions]

Which is the same as option A, outcome A, option B & outcome B.

FFS

what no its not

 

[WillHayward]

In Victoria all cases that involve charges of SA have a suppression order applied in order to protect the victim

No special treatment at all it’s a law that applies to all

“It is a crime to publish any details likely to identify a victim-survivor of a sexual offence. This law has been in place since 1991. It is intended to protect victim-survivors’ privacy and encourage reporting and prosecution of sexual offending”

Making it easier for victim-survivors of sexual offences to tell their stories

Information about recent reforms to the Judicial Proceedings Reports Act (JPRA) and how to express your interest in further consultation on how the law applies to deceased victims.

www.justice.vic.gov.au

Blatantly incorrect.

That is for the protection of victims and NOT people charged.

I'll say it again slowly. People charged with sex offences are often named in media reports and named in daily court lists.

High-profile Melbourne man accused of rape wins court bid to conceal his identity

The man is accused of sexually assaulting a woman after allegedly drinking alcohol and taking cocaine with her at his home.

www.abc.net.au

"It is illegal for alleged victims of sex-based crimes to be identified in media reports without their consent. The laws do permit those charged to be identified, resulting in their names and photos regularly appearing in news stories."

Here is one example but I could find hundreds.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/inner-south/accused-choice-energy-melbourne-grub-william-toumbos-charged-with-sexual-assault-court/news-story/b835d89f5f287cb76d974d44fcb7e318

This AFL bloke is getting special treatment.

 

[Perrip]

This AFL bloke is getting special treatment.

Can't imagine why. AFL is just a small sport in Geelong that no one knows.

 

[craffles]

what no its not

RIP Mighty Lions 2025

He gave his life, to die on a hill. A hill that no one cared about, no one but him and him on his own.

He leaves behind 20 pages and multiple weeks of tripe as well as 21 cans of Mountain Dew in his mums basement. Vale.

 

[mighty_lions]

RIP Mighty Lions 2025

He gave his life, to die on a hill. A hill that no one cared about, no one but him and him on his own.

He leaves behind 20 pages and multiple weeks of tripe as well as 21 cans of Mountain Dew in his mums basement. Vale.

thats a good one

 

[Muddiemoose]

Blatantly incorrect.

That is for the protection of victims and NOT people charged.

I'll say it again slowly. People charged with sex offences are often named in media reports and named in daily court lists.

High-profile Melbourne man accused of rape wins court bid to conceal his identity

The man is accused of sexually assaulting a woman after allegedly drinking alcohol and taking cocaine with her at his home.

www.abc.net.au

"It is illegal for alleged victims of sex-based crimes to be identified in media reports without their consent. The laws do permit those charged to be identified, resulting in their names and photos regularly appearing in news stories."

Here is one example but I could find hundreds.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/inner-south/accused-choice-energy-melbourne-grub-william-toumbos-charged-with-sexual-assault-court/news-story/b835d89f5f287cb76d974d44fcb7e318

This AFL bloke is getting special treatment.

Unless the naming of the perpetrator could lead to the identity of the victim if they are known to each other in some regard

 

[WillHayward]

Unless the naming of the perpetrator could lead to the identity of the victim if they are known to each other in some regard

Yes which would happen from time to time.

But it's folly to say all SO matters are suppressed by the new law reform.

It's clearly not the case and people charged are named and shamed in the herald Sun every second day.

 

[Pistol Night]

RIP Mighty Lions 2025

He gave his life, to die on a hill. A hill that no one cared about, no one but him and him on his own.

He leaves behind 20 pages and multiple weeks of tripe as well as 21 cans of Mountain Dew in his mums basement. Vale.

Couldn’t even polish off the full carton. Disappointing

 

[PoppedCorn]

is this poster always like this?

its not hard to work out
its been posted 37 times ffs

either poster is a complete turnip or does not give a shite about the victim