Prediction Round 1, 2025: Starting 23

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AFL
FB: Baker Edwards Hough
HB: Ginbey McGovern Allan
C: Hunt Yeo Maric
HF: Long Waterman Kelly
FF: Owies Allen Ryan
R: B Williams H Reid Hewett
INT: J Williams Duggan Graham Hutchinson Cripps

WAFL
FB: Cole Bazzo Grego
HB: Brockman Jamieson Chesser
C: Johnston Hall Petruccelle
HF: Champion Shanahan Dewar
FF: Livingstone A Reid Rawlinson
R: Flynn Davis Gross
INT: Barnett Sheed
 
West Coast Tigers
FB: Maric Edwards Hough
HB: Ginbey McGovern Duggan
C: Allan Graham Baker
HF: Ryan Allen Kelly
FF: Hewett Waterman Owies
R: B Williams H Reid Yeo

Extended Bench: J Williams Hutchinson Hall Chesser Dewar

Beagles
FB: Cole Bazzo Grego
HB: Johnston Barnett Hunt
C: Petruccelle ? Brockman
HF: Cripps Shanahan Davis
FF: Champion A Reid Rawlinson
R: Flynn Gross ?
INT: Livingston ? ? ?

Not on park: Jamieson, Sheed
 
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Is Liam Ryan a walk up start to our B22 these days?

I feel like our small/medium forwards are all going to have to be the fastest, fittest blokes on the list if Mini is going to bring in a style of football that focuses on creating fast turnovers.

I always wanted to see how Tom Cole would go in these wing/high HF roles which just require relentless running patterns. I think a senior player needs to fill this type of role, we constantly watch young talent get delisted from the gimp wing
 
We_The_West said:
Is Liam Ryan a walk up start to our B22 these days?

I feel like our small/medium forwards are all going to have to be the fastest, fittest blokes on the list if Mini is going to bring in a style of football that focuses on creating fast turnovers.

I always wanted to see how Tom Cole would go in these wing/high HF roles which just require relentless running patterns. I think a senior player needs to fill this type of role, we constantly watch young talent get delisted from the gimp wing
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I can see Ryan being used as a high half forward and outside mid/link man by Mini.

Don't see Allen playing FF I would have him CHF and Waterman the FF.
 
Ok, look I don't pretend to be the sharpest tool in the footy box, but clearly I've been missing something for awhile concerning the WAFL team. On the WCE site is our listed WAFL team with Jackson Nelson as captain and a whole list of no names (to me). They look like a team of AI cartoon avatars.

Meanwhile we have a WAFL team being posted on this thread that is an entirely different team of recognizable names who are not in our best 23 - what's the story? How do the two conflate? Is there a WAFL (A)+(B) team? And yes, I know I'm going to look like an idiot for asking, but as Paulene Pantsdown once said..."please explain?"...Am I missing the obvious? Should I have another coffee and think about it?
 
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Astro7 said:
Ok, look I don't pretend to be the sharpest tool in the footy box, but clearly I've been missing something for awhile concerning the WAFL team. On the WCE site is our listed WAFL team with Jackson Nelson as captain and a whole list of no names (to me). They look like a team of AI cartoon avatars.

Meanwhile we have a WAFL team being posted on this thread that is an entirely different team of recognizable names who are not in our best 23 - what's the story? How do the two conflate? Is there a WAFL (A)+(B) team? And yes, I know I'm going to look like an idiot for asking, but as Paulene Pantsdown once said..."please explain?"...Am I missing the obvious? Should I have another coffee and think about it?

And while I'm here - this is an interesting fantasy factoid!

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haha nah you're not missing anything, that's all of our WAFL-only contracted players. Although quite a few have departed this offseason already.

The main idea of the WAFL eagles is for our AFL listed players that aren't getting a game to develop in, but with AFL list sizes around 42, the AFL best 23 and an emergency or 2, only leaves around 18 players for the WAFL team.

Then you get years like 2022 and '23, where our injury list was 16+ players long, so we were barely fielding a single AFL listed payer in the WAFL team, so we need the list you see on the Team website.

The WAFL teams being posted of course doesn't account for ANY injuries, so it's a best case scenario WAFL team (and highly unlikely to ever line up that strongly).
 
NYJetsfor2029 said:
haha nah you're not missing anything, that's all of our WAFL-only contracted players. Although quite a few have departed this offseason already.

The main idea of the WAFL eagles is for our AFL listed players that aren't getting a game to develop in, but with AFL list sizes around 42, the AFL best 23 and an emergency or 2, only leaves around 18 players for the WAFL team.

Then you get years like 2022 and '23, where our injury list was 16+ players long, so we were barely fielding a single AFL listed payer in the WAFL team, so we need the list you see on the Team website.

The WAFL teams being posted of course doesn't account for ANY injuries, so it's a best case scenario WAFL team (and highly unlikely to ever line up that strongly).
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Thanks for the clarification! I realised the WAFL was to develop our AFL players and all that biz, but seeing a whole team of unknowns threw me? But yes it all makes sense given the recent years of injuries. With all the new draftees added, the WAFL will have added interest now, especially the midfield. Cheers.
 
I'm stoked with our draft and pumped for 2025. This is what I'm envisioning...

AFL level

Hough - Edwards - Baker
Duggan - McGovern - Ginbey

Hunt - Yeo - Hutchinson
B. Williams - Harley - Graham

Hewett - Allen - Kelly
Ryan - Waterman - Owies

INT: Allan (Defence), J. Williams (FWD/RUCK), Chesser (Mid), Dewar (FWD/Wing).
SUB: Maric

Potential strengths:
  • Big, athletic, tough defence with plenty of power and dash
  • Harley and Yeo doing their thing, unleashed by a supporting role from Graham, with high-octane spells from Hewett, Allan, Ginbey, and Baker
  • Quality KPFs, Owies pestering, and Hewett and Kelly as MID/FWDs both pushing up the ground and snagging goals

Weaknesses:
  • Skilful rebounding from defence. We'll be very reliant on run and carry
  • Is Chesser ready to step up as a full time mid?
  • Forward pressure; are Hewett and Kelly going to defend hard enough?
  • Ruck situation; can one of B. Williams or Flynn step it up?

Next in line:
  • Bazzo and trialling A. Reid or Shanahan for KPDs, Cole and Johnston for general defenders
  • Hall in the guts, Davis on the wing or high half-forward I could see getting early game time
  • Long and Cripps are arguably the most unlucky to miss and will be pushing hard for a HFF position, although I do want Long to spend some time playing mid to hone his skills there. Petch a chance, too.
  • I expect Shanahan and Archer Reid to be knocking down the door hard, and whilst I'd love to see them developing their connection as twin towers in the forward line, if opportunities present down back then I can't wait to see what they show there either.
  • I think Champion is a smokey for an early look-in too. Perhaps Gross although he may have to leapfrog Long for it.

Developing but list spot is safe for now:
Chesser, Hutchinson, Dewar, Maric, Bazzo, Grego, Johnston, Hall, Davis, Long, Gross, Shanahan, Archer, Champion

Delisting on the cards if they don't perform well:
Cole, Brockman, Flynn, Petruccelle

Likely delisting, needs a big year:
Jamieson, Barnett, Livingstone, Rawlinson, Sheed

Retirement: Cripps

WAFL level

Cole - Jamieson - Bazzo
Grego - Barnett - Brockman

Johnston - Hall - Davis
Flynn - Long - Petruccelle

Cripps - Shanahan - Gross
Champion - A. Reid - Rawlinson

INT: Livingstone, Sheed? :sweatsmile:

Notes: Give Barnett and Brockman a crack as a KPD and rebounding defender respectively down back. Long and Gross swapping between mid and fwd. Cripps and Cole narrowly missing out on AFL selection but providing invaluable experience here. Shanahan and A. Reid as our next-gen KPFs working in tandem, but throwing one back at times to see how they go, both have tremendous potential as KPDs as well as KPFs.

Side note:
Add Warner and Rodriguez next year and squeeze another good year from Gov and Yeo in 2026, and we will be genuinely dangerous.
 
The anticipation of seeing Harley was fun but this is the first time in a long time I've been excited about the upcoming season. Like the new boys might not impact in 2025 but I feel like we finally have a clear direction in the type of team we're forging after feeling like we we were treading water for way too long.
 

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Duggan to a wing is a MUST. If Baker is taking his spot at HB then Duggan got to move elsewhere. Hate the idea of Hunt on a wing. Its failed drastically and we keep trying to make it happen. Id like Kelly to go on a wing but its never going to happen so why bother dreaming.

One aspect I think is Mini will want a smaller forward line as well as more run/pace around the ground. Even though we got our better players as talls we wont be playing the land of the giants in 2025. With that in mind I think we go with

FB : Hough, Edwards, Hunt
HB: Baker, McGovern. Ginbey
C: Graham. Yeo. Duggan
HF: Ryan, Waterman, Hutchison
FF: Owies, Allen, Long
R: Flynn, Reid, Kelly
I/C: Cole, Hewett, Allan, J.Williams
SUB : Cripps/Sheed

Think we will go with Cripps/Sheed in the sub role alot as its a place young players go to die otherwise.
 
Ambrose Burnside said:
The anticipation of seeing Harley was fun but this is the first time in a long time I've been excited about the upcoming season. Like the new boys might not impact in 2025 but I feel like we finally have a clear direction in the type of team we're forging after feeling like we we were treading water for way too long.
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New players plus a new coach with a new game style that we're yet to see and has been trained for a whole pre season is what's exciting for me

Something different from the same old crap we've had for too long
 
GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
Duggan to a wing is a MUST. If Baker is taking his spot at HB then Duggan got to move elsewhere. Hate the idea of Hunt on a wing. Its failed drastically and we keep trying to make it happen. Id like Kelly to go on a wing but its never going to happen so why bother dreaming.

One aspect I think is Mini will want a smaller forward line as well as more run/pace around the ground. Even though we got our better players as talls we wont be playing the land of the giants in 2025. With that in mind I think we go with

FB : Hough, Edwards, Hunt
HB: Baker, McGovern. Ginbey
C: Graham. Yeo. Duggan
HF: Ryan, Waterman, Hutchison
FF: Owies, Allen, Long
R: Flynn, Reid, Kelly
I/C: Cole, Hewett, Allan, J.Williams
SUB : Cripps/Sheed

Think we will go with Cripps/Sheed in the sub role alot as its a place young players go to die otherwise.
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I'm curious to see how Petch goes with Mini's game plan. I hope the Qatar trip pays off and he has a career best year.

Would love to see Dewar develop into a Wirrapanda/Jetta type off the half back.
 

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