RDFNL 2025 Season discussion

[karmapolice]

Turbo might be side tracked by having to count the $50k per win to their coach at south

$50k ??
The figure he keeps repeating is $47k, $47-$50k ah well what’s $3k these days .
In all seriousness great day for South, good to see you back on the winners list.

 

[Turbos mail]

Turbo old son, your mob Pacco in the EDFL have been playing right on their full allocation of points for years, and that’s been perfectly fine with you. Nothing’s changed this season either, 46/46 both this week and last. At least try and be consistent and even handed in your criticisms, otherwise, heaven forbid, people might start to question your credibility and integrity.

Anyway, you posted on here a few pages back that you were going to curtail your BF posting in order to concentrate on your golf. That didn’t last long.

Mate I do need to resume my golf tbh.

Yes mate well aware of Pacco playing at max points along with the Keilors, Abers, Strathmores etc, but that’s premier footy and to keep up you have to stay strong. Big jump from 18.5 to premier and probably only 1 or 2 can do it in first year of seniors.

Riddell although now premier rated wouldn’t get within 200 points of those clubs and only compete with probably EK

The conversation was around playing more of these kids around 18 years old and giving opportunities at senior level and this footy you can easily do it..I think only those clubs playing at low points around 22-35 can be acknowledged as playing your youth and developing from within. Is it sustainable? I think in this competition definitely but it requires patience, time and commitment.

 

[Aucklander]

Mocking a comp which has welcomed your club with open arms when it all became too much in the other one. Pathetic really.

 

[Turbos mail]

Mocking a comp which has welcomed your club with open arms when it all became too much in the other one. Pathetic really.

Mate I’m not mocking this competition as I actually think it’s a decent competition.
South vs Diggers probably 2000plus at the game. Centrals vs South 2000plus at the game. That’s what South bring. When they are up they bring the crowds.

I’m just stating facts so unsure why you can’t see it. Yes I bang on about Keilor recruiting juniors from other clubs but I also think a good tactical move is for Riddell clubs to recruit from EDFL 18.5 the kids that might not be up to EDFL premier ( unless that club has courage to persevere long term) but could develop easily in Riddell competition where it’s less crash & bash type footy “so to speak”. Or alternatively be patience with your own youth. Was out at South yesterday and seen a 2 young South players recruited into the club play very good footy..Also a number of local kids crack in. Yes they are no stars and make mistakes but be patient and it “could” be something..
My point being they are probably not getting a game at premier EDFL clubs or consistent games ( Keilors etc will promise heaps but only play them against the bottom side) yet they can develop and get a few $$ for it as well.

 

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[Turbos mail]

Mocking a comp which has welcomed your club with open arms when it all became too much in the other one. Pathetic really.

Also I admire in some way how you always stick up for your club.

Back to the footy. With the result yesterday at Wallan would you say you have made ground on Riddell, further apart or equal comparing it to the 24 GF?
-It was a similar day weather wise.
-Played at Wallan ( home ground advantage)
-Riddell pretty much same team as GF.
-Wallan added a few, and looked to be at full strength.

 

[justlikefooty]

Also I admire in some way how you always stick up for your club.

Back to the footy. With the result yesterday at Wallan would you say you have made ground on Riddell, further apart or equal comparing it to the 24 GF?
-It was a similar day weather wise.
-Played at Wallan ( home ground advantage)
-Riddell pretty much same team as GF.
-Wallan added a few, and looked to be at full strength.

Totally agree
With Wallans recruiting strategy, like you said is not looking at the future, it is looking at the present, but going in the wrong direction. Recruiting Cloke at 40 ( yes he might have kicked 5 goals ) but once the ball hits the ground, see you later, obviously way too slow. And is he the future of the club?
Then to get Carlisle and Bellino is also not good recruiting and again way too slow. Then you have 4 other players with a lack of speed in this side, where time has passed them also.
They are keeping out at least 4 or 5 juniors who I would just put in and develop, especially if they had pace, for that is what you need to develop a club. Clubs who play against Wallan, just need to move the ball quickly and run, keep putting it out into space, and will be able to sort them out, and have a chance to beat them in my opinion

 

[Aucklander]

I'm not sticking up for the club as such I'm challenging poor comments by people who have no idea and are simply following the leader while ignoring comments from people who know like Iceman27.

Would you rather we went a plucked the eyes out of another club all for a flag? The Wallan model, while not winning a flag, promotes youth and gives young players a chance. I'm not going to repeat it again.

I didn't think Wallan played bad, apart from some poor turnovers, but as I said, this Riddell team is better than last year IMO.

 

[barfly]

Besides Macedon, how many clubs in the comp have 6 under 19s from last year ready to play senior footy this year.

Wallan under 19s from last season playing seniors today.

Moore (19s this year)
Young
Kennedy
Datsun
King (19s this year)
Russell (Injured but would be playing)

Wallan have played plenty of 19s in the past who are now playing a higher standard of footy which I am wrapt for them and encourage them to do so.

I don’t get this narrative that Wallan & Nolan haven’t developed devolop players over the last few years.

Yes, we would love to keep them all but as I said 90% have gone on to better footy and we would welcome them back with open arms when the time is right for them.

Spin it any way you like.
Fact is only four of those named played yesterday.That means after 10 years of development the club only had seven (7) local players run out in seniors yesterday with 15 imports.At a guess eight (8) players over 30 (all recruited)yo.Also played at 42 of 43 available points.Money is handed out like chewies up there.I wont go into locals consistently being dropped come finals in both seniors and reserves.If anyone thinks thats acceptable thats fine.Personally I think its pathetic.I wont post again in regard to this topic as its obvious people dont like the truth.
If anything I have written above is false please correct me.

 

[masoncox_]

Congrats to south on breaking one of the biggest losing streaks in the state. Gonna be a big celebration tonight

Few locked up I bet

 

[karmapolice]

Not embarrassed at all mate. Have watched south make the same mistakes for 10 years now and not sure what they are doing now is sustainable, particularly since they couldn’t even pay last years list.
Also watched Hodgson burn people at his last two clubs with issues that I only hope don’t creep into south.
Luckily I wasn’t one of those but trust me that list is long.

I’ll let the results speak from now on. Too many bleeding hearts when

Not embarrassed at all mate. Have watched south make the same mistakes for 10 years now and not sure what they are doing now is sustainable, particularly since they couldn’t even pay last years list.
Also watched Hodgson burn people at his last two clubs with issues that I only hope don’t creep into south.
Luckily I wasn’t one of those but trust me that list is long.

I’ll let the results speak from now on. Too many bleeding hearts when it comes to south

Is this true??
Always thought it was an Urban Myth ….. but when you hear the same stories back to the North Albury Days it really makes sense now.
Ah well it’s a Cautionary Tale for everyone involved with clubs looking for a coach ……

 

[Del230736]

I'm not sticking up for the club as such I'm challenging poor comments by people who have no idea and are simply following the leader while ignoring comments from people who know like Iceman27.

Would you rather we went a plucked the eyes out of another club all for a flag? The Wallan model, while not winning a flag, promotes youth and gives young players a chance. I'm not going to repeat it again.

I didn't think Wallan played bad, apart from some poor turnovers, but as I said, this Riddell team is better than last year IMO.

I totally disagree with you and iceman. I played juniors at a club, that taught me the right way to play footy, they came up with a plan to keep as many juniors as possible, with topping up with good players, but keeping a core of 14 plus locals. Plenty of better kids went off and played higher level footy but came back and teach the locals what they learnt at state level.

They've won 9 flags since 2000. I was also lucky enough to live in maffra for a couple of years, who did a similar thing. Maffra is 4k people, yet they've had 6+ kids drafted into the afl, and others play in vfl flags at willy yet come back. Ladt week they played 17 year Judd burgiel who kicked one of the best goals you'll see and he'll most likely get drafted in 2 years time, like he's brother. They beat a strong Sale in the strong Gippsland league(which is comparable to premier edfl) where most of maffras side was under 20.

The club line that we promote kids when you recruit like you have is crap, and the blueprint is out there and it's not what walkan are doing. Wallan should have a 5 year plan with how their population is growing to be within a major league, like Bendigo, the gv or edfl premier and the only way you do that is having a strong junior presence in your senior side

 

[Aucklander]

Spin it any way you like.
Fact is only four of those named played yesterday.That means after 10 years of development the club only had seven (7) local players run out in seniors yesterday with 15 imports.At a guess eight (8) players over 30 (all recruited)yo.Also played at 42 of 43 available points.Money is handed out like chewies up there.I wont go into locals consistently being dropped come finals in both seniors and reserves.If anyone thinks thats acceptable thats fine.Personally I think its pathetic.I wont post again in regard to this topic as its obvious people dont like the truth.
If anything I have written above is false please correct me.

I totally disagree with you and iceman. I played juniors at a club, that taught me the right way to play footy, they came up with a plan to keep as many juniors as possible, with topping up with good players, but keeping a core of 14 plus locals. Plenty of better kids went off and played higher level footy but came back and teach the locals what they learnt at state level.

They've won 9 flags since 2000. I was also lucky enough to live in maffra for a couple of years, who did a similar thing. Maffra is 4k people, yet they've had 6+ kids drafted into the afl, and others play in vfl flags at willy yet come back. Ladt week they played 17 year Judd burgiel who kicked one of the best goals you'll see and he'll most likely get drafted in 2 years time, like he's brother. They beat a strong Sale in the strong Gippsland league(which is comparable to premier edfl) where most of maffras side was under 20.

The club line that we promote kids when you recruit like you have is crap, and the blueprint is out there and it's not what walkan are doing. Wallan should have a 5 year plan with how their population is growing to be within a major league, like Bendigo, the gv or edfl premier and the only way you do that is having a strong junior presence in your senior side

Thanks for your thoughts. I appreciate your opinions.

 

[Turbos mail]

Totally agree
With Wallans recruiting strategy, like you said is not looking at the future, it is looking at the present, but going in the wrong direction. Recruiting Cloke at 40 ( yes he might have kicked 5 goals ) but once the ball hits the ground, see you later, obviously way too slow. And is he the future of the club?
Then to get Carlisle and Bellino is also not good recruiting and again way too slow. Then you have 4 other players with a lack of speed in this side, where time has passed them also.
They are keeping out at least 4 or 5 juniors who I would just put in and develop, especially if they had pace, for that is what you need to develop a club. Clubs who play against Wallan, just need to move the ball quickly and run, keep putting it out into space, and will be able to sort them out, and have a chance to beat them in my opinion

Yes agree.

When South play Wallan a guy like Cloke could get hold of em and kick a bag and ultimately Wallan would win, but for the future and looking ahead 12-24 months could South be the winner with the kids. But as you said could the run and dare get them over the line? Could the end result with either Riddell or say Diggers play off then ultimately both clubs end up the same out of year 2025.
Wallan making the 24 GF was a great achievement and what I thought would be a platform to go even better. Easily a positive to recruit as well with playing in GF.

The recruitment of Stewart was great. Micallef and Hayes also good as get 2,3 years out of them both. Carlise although has history most clubs are taking if the price is right. Just not convinced about the others at the stage Wallan are at.

Anyway let’s move on yeah Auck

 

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[Aucklander]

Yes agree.

When South play Wallan a guy like Cloke could get hold of em and kick a bag and ultimately Wallan would win, but for the future and looking ahead 12-24 months could South be the winner with the kids. But as you said could the run and dare get them over the line? Could the end result with either Riddell or say Diggers play off then ultimately both clubs end up the same out of year 2025.
Wallan making the 24 GF was a great achievement and what I thought would be a platform to go even better. Easily a positive to recruit as well with playing in GF.

The recruitment of Stewart was great. Micallef and Hayes also good as get 2,3 years out of them both. Carlise although has history most clubs are taking if the price is right. Just not convinced about the others at the stage Wallan are at.

Anyway let’s move on yeah Auck

Yes, thank you for you thoughts. Appreciate your opinion.

 

[It Is Me]

Mate Wallan play on 42/43 points. That equals heavy recruiting.. Just saying.

Umpiring is not great but 3 umpires at Centrals vs South. How many you get?

Diggers definitely up there challenging mate if not favourites with Riddell..

3 umpires for each game due to split round. Once all games are all on one day it will be back to 2.

 

[stars alive]

3 umpires for each game due to split round. Once all games are all on one day it will be back to 2.

They could have 10 ..their decision making is terrible

 

[Turbos mail]

They could have 10 ..their decision making is terrible

The umpires at the Central vs South weren’t bad but the smaller one made some strange non decisions but overall wasn’t bad I thought. Big spacious ground & good weather helps..

Interesting to see if a couple of Centrals recruits stick it out if they struggle early. Known to move clubs frequently.

 

[ROOTA#6]

The umpires at the Central vs South weren’t bad but the smaller one made some strange non decisions but overall wasn’t bad I thought. Big spacious ground & good weather helps..

Interesting to see if a couple of Centrals recruits stick it out if they struggle early. Known to move clubs frequently.

Like your mate Patty V!!

 

[Aucklander]

Like your mate Patty V!!

Or Turbo LoL

 

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[Turbos mail]

Like your mate Patty V!!

I will pay that one Roota. But it was a mutual agreement buddy so no hard feelings.

 

[stars alive]

The umpires at the Central vs South weren’t bad but the smaller one made some strange non decisions but overall wasn’t bad I thought. Big spacious ground & good weather helps..

Interesting to see if a couple of Centrals recruits stick it out if they struggle early. Known to move clubs frequently.

The umpires were shocking..in this league once u touch a player they seem to be scared and give a free..those two had great games ..bransticano 36 possessions & kerbatieh 32. Were selected in the best..I think they'll be around long term from what I've heard. The south's played good footy and are better than people give them credit

 

[stars alive]

Huge crowd at Arnold’s Creek on a hot sunny day. Ventured out to the game. Good win by South with Darley dominating and ruckman Collins outstanding. Goodson with 5 goals.
For Centrals I thought #27 Layton very good with 6 goals up forward was very lively especially early and #8 Armistead playing well and liked the look of him. The centrals 2 big recruits Hish & Fabian ok but nothing special.

On a side note the Centrals runner looked very young. Not sure that’s a good thing in senior footy with everything that goes on in the game.

How old does a runner need to be ? He does his job and thats it..hish & Fabians both played well and were in their best..so I gather u need binoculars

 

[Del230736]

I will pay that one Roota. But it was a mutual agreement buddy so no hard feelings.

Where's your boy gone turbs? He would have made south a top 3 side

 

[Turbos mail]

The umpires were shocking..in this league once u touch a player they seem to be scared and give a free..those two had great games ..bransticano 36 possessions & kerbatieh 32. Were selected in the best..I think they'll be around long term from what I've heard. The south's played good footy and are better than people give them credit

They both had a lot of the ball and often giving off to each other for the one two. There possessions helped Centrals but didn’t hurt South. Think both played out of position in this competition as would have Fab in middle and Hish up forward. Hish does his best work forward and you need to score more..

That #27 was good and great long goal in 2nd quarter. Where is he from?? He has a crack..

 

[stars alive]

They both had a lot of the ball and often giving off to each other for the one two. There possessions helped Centrals but didn’t hurt South. Think both played out of position in this competition as would have Fab in middle and Hish up forward. Hish does his best work forward and you need to score more..

That #27 was good and great long goal in 2nd quarter. Where is he from?? He has a crack..

No idea mate.im not the coach