Training Pre-season updates 2024-2025.

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sr36 said:
What do they go in and under? Blokes shovelling out handballs from the bottom of the pack is a fiction in the modern game. They all keep their feet.

Titch is very good on the inside because hes really smart, reads it beautifully and handles the ball really cleanly. You talk of him as though he's a powerful brute - who needs to be replaced with a powerful brute - he's not a powerful brute.

Daicos, Degoey, Pendles, Crisp, Perryman, Sidey - if they use him as a run with. Hopefully Allan kicking on. It's a really strong group. We're fine in the midfield.

Sit back and enjoy it. Our midfield will be strong regardless of Titch - unless we get hit hard by injuries.
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Inside mids still need power and strength- the best ball reader and handler isn’t going to get near it if he can’t hold position or get a different one against other big bodies.


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sideswipe said:
Inside mids still need power and strength- the best ball reader and handler isn’t going to get near it if he can’t hold position or get a different one against other big bodies.


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They need advantages. Titchs advantages aren't power or strength. I doubt he'd be particularly high up the power and strength rankings in the Pies midfield. Nor would Lachie Neale's or Marcus Ashcroft's be at Brisbane. Or Caleb Seeing, etc.

Few if any can compete with the power and strength of Cripps and Petracca. Titch isn't one of them. That's an advantage that makes them really hard to stop.
 
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sr36 said:
They need advantages. Titchs advantages aren't power or strength. I doubt he'd be particularly high up the power and strength rankings in the Pies midfield. Nor would Lachie Neale's or Marcus Ashcroft's be at Brisbane. Or Caleb Seeing, etc.

Few if any can go with the power and strength of Cripps and Petracca. Titch isn't one of them. That's an advantage that makes them really hard to stop.
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sr36 said:
They need advantages. Titchs advantages aren't power or strength. I doubt he'd be particularly high up the power and strength rankings in the Pies midfield. Nor would Lachie Neale's or Marcus Ashcroft's be at Brisbane. Or Caleb Seeing, etc.

Few if any can compete with the power and strength of Cripps and Petracca. Titch isn't one of them. That's an advantage that makes them really hard to stop.
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OK, maybe call it a baseline level of strength/power. Without it, mids can’t compete.


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OK, maybe call it a baseline level of strength/power. Without it, mids can’t compete.


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Agree. I'm just saying we've got a fair bit of depth in those who can compete. Titch is our second best at taking possession at stoppage and I'd say probably are 3rd best at initiating clean clearances. I just don't think it's close to being an oh my god, what are we going to do without Titch situation. I don't think he's top 10 in terms of an oh my god what are going to do without.. situation.
 
sr36 said:
Agree. I'm just saying we've got a fair bit of depth in those who can compete. Titch is our second best at taking possession at stoppage and I'd say probably are 3rd best at initiating clean clearances. I just don't think it's close to being an oh my god, what are we going to do without Titch situation. I don't think he's top 10 in terms of an oh my god what are going to do without.. situation.
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Not alone, but there seems to be a chance we’ll be without De Goey too - if not based on his current status, then based on his history of being injured at some stage every year.

That’s our numbers 1 & 2 inside mids that could be out suddenly. Then we end up putting Crisp or Perryman in there to replace them and we lose the benefit of being able to use them from the backline AND having a weaker midfield for it.
 

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Dtennent94 said:
Not alone, but there seems to be a chance we’ll be without De Goey too - if not based on his current status, then based on his history of being injured at some stage every year.

That’s our numbers 1 & 2 inside mids that could be out suddenly. Then we end up putting Crisp or Perryman in there to replace them and we lose the benefit of being able to use them from the backline AND having a weaker midfield for it.
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For me personally if Mitchell and DeGoey are not back in the side then Sidebottom goes into the middle and does a role on one of the oppos best mids. It worked well for us late in 2024. Lipinski or my main perference IQ then replace Sidebottom on the wing with Houston able to cover IQ down back.

I also hope that one of Perryman or Allan is able to step up for some major high quality midfield minutes. This would negate the loss of Mitchell and DeGoey.
 
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For me personally if Mitchell and DeGoey are not back in the side then Sidebottom goes into the middle and does a role on one of the oppos best mids. It worked well for us late in 2024. Lipinski or my main perference IQ then replace Sidebottom on the wing with Houston able to cover IQ down back.

I also hope that one of Perryman or Allan is able to step up for some major high quality midfield minutes. This would negate the loss of Mitchell and DeGoey.
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My early tip for iq is to play defence where he belongs and will get his first AA guernsey. He looks super fit and hungry and will be fired up to make amends for a disappointing year
 
Pre-season training

December 13th.
9:30am


Bobby made a brief appearance in casual training t-shirt, walked around the oval with a trainer; then went inside. He clearly did something on tuesday, when he did early drills and then disappeared. Unless its concussion..

Jordy, Checkers just completed some running then were on the bikes.
Long did some running, some drills.
Josh D only rode the bike. Dealing with a niggle.
WHE was also absent.

No sign of Cochrane, but he did a decent running session yesterday. He should be back into full training in the new year.


They started off with some conditioning, which Ash actually did very well in this. Maybe if it had gone on much longer he would have dropped back, but he was at the start of the pack. It was probably about 20-30 metre sprints up and back.

Then they went into some fundamentals, kicking drills, then there was this drill -- where I'm not sure it was keepings off your opposition, or just make the oppostion to come at you. It revolved around players to kick around to one another, and there was some players in the middle of the circle that had to try to force a turnover and intercept the ball. Then following that was a transition drill from two sets of teams on each side of the ground. They would move from the ball from D50 and through the F50.

Then match sim begun:

Wingers - (white)Crisp, (black) Sidey (black)Lippa, (White) DeMattia
Cox was up forward while Steene in the ruck for the white team.

White mids: Pendles, Sullivan, Perryman v Black mids: Long, Nick and Allan. Steene & DC rucks
White defence: Markov, TJ, IQ, Dean, Frampton, Howe V Black forwards: Fin, Hayes, Schultz, Johnson, Smit, Jamie
White forwards: Mcstay, West, Cox, Membrey, Beau v Black defence: Parker, Maynard, Houston,Moore, Reef, Ryan

Fin was very good. Very clean around stoppage and his running capacity. Reef played up against Mcstay and they two had a good battle, both had their moments.

As well as Parker did last season, he looks much like a footballer now.

Going by the structure in match sim, seems we may be heading for 2 forwards, 1 2nd ruck (white team was Cox, Black team was Smit) fwiw, Checkers didn't participate today.



They did some 1v1 fighting in line groups, then they ran out of there and it seems, to past aami park where storm trains; did some intense tackling drills, then up to the tan for some hill sprints to finish off their massive session. Probably ended up 3hrs overall.
They do usually like to drive them hard on the last day of training before the break. His body shape definitely has changed now.






 
Jen2310 said:
Pre-season training

December 13th.
9:30am


Bobby made a brief appearance in casual training t-shirt, walked around the oval with a trainer; then went inside. He clearly did something on tuesday, when he did early drills and then disappeared. Unless its concussion..

Jordy, Checkers just completed some running then were on the bikes.
Long did some running, some drills.
Josh D only rode the bike. Dealing with a niggle.
WHE was also absent.

No sign of Cochrane, but he did a decent running session yesterday. He should be back into full training in the new year.


They started off with some conditioning, which Ash actually did very well in this. Maybe if it had gone on much longer he would have dropped back, but he was at the start of the pack. It was probably about 20-30 metre sprints up and back.

Then they went into some fundamentals, kicking drills, then there was this drill -- where I'm not sure it was keepings off your opposition, or just make the oppostion to come at you. It revolved around players to kick around to one another, and there was some players in the middle of the circle that had to try to force a turnover and intercept the ball. Then following that was a transition drill from two sets of teams on each side of the ground. They would move from the ball from D50 and through the F50.

Then match sim begun:

Wingers - (white)Crisp, (black) Sidey (black)Lippa, (White) DeMattia
Cox was up forward while Steene in the ruck for the white team.

White mids: Pendles, Sullivan, Perryman v Black mids: Long, Nick and Allan. Steene & DC rucks
White defence: Markov, TJ, IQ, Dean, Frampton, Howe V Black forwards: Fin, Hayes, Schultz, Johnson, Smit, Jamie
White forwards: Mcstay, West, Cox, Membrey, Beau v Black defence: Parker, Maynard, Houston,Moore, Reef, Ryan

Fin was very good. Very clean around stoppage and his running capacity. Reef played up against Mcstay and they two had a good battle, both had their moments.

As well as Parker did last season, he looks much like a footballer now.

Going by the structure in match sim, seems we may be heading for 2 forwards, 1 2nd ruck (white team was Cox, Black team was Smit) fwiw, Checkers didn't participate today.



They did some 1v1 fighting in line groups, then they ran out of there and it seems, to past aami park where storm trains; did some intense tackling drills, then up to the tan for some hill sprints to finish off their massive session. Probably ended up 3hrs overall.
They do usually like to drive them hard on the last day of training before the break. His body shape definitely has changed now.






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Thank you so much Jen2310
Jen2310 said:
Pre-season training

December 13th.
9:30am


Bobby made a brief appearance in casual training t-shirt, walked around the oval with a trainer; then went inside. He clearly did something on tuesday, when he did early drills and then disappeared. Unless its concussion..

Jordy, Checkers just completed some running then were on the bikes.
Long did some running, some drills.
Josh D only rode the bike. Dealing with a niggle.
WHE was also absent.

No sign of Cochrane, but he did a decent running session yesterday. He should be back into full training in the new year.


They started off with some conditioning, which Ash actually did very well in this. Maybe if it had gone on much longer he would have dropped back, but he was at the start of the pack. It was probably about 20-30 metre sprints up and back.

Then they went into some fundamentals, kicking drills, then there was this drill -- where I'm not sure it was keepings off your opposition, or just make the oppostion to come at you. It revolved around players to kick around to one another, and there was some players in the middle of the circle that had to try to force a turnover and intercept the ball. Then following that was a transition drill from two sets of teams on each side of the ground. They would move from the ball from D50 and through the F50.

Then match sim begun:

Wingers - (white)Crisp, (black) Sidey (black)Lippa, (White) DeMattia
Cox was up forward while Steene in the ruck for the white team.

White mids: Pendles, Sullivan, Perryman v Black mids: Long, Nick and Allan. Steene & DC rucks
White defence: Markov, TJ, IQ, Dean, Frampton, Howe V Black forwards: Fin, Hayes, Schultz, Johnson, Smit, Jamie
White forwards: Mcstay, West, Cox, Membrey, Beau v Black defence: Parker, Maynard, Houston,Moore, Reef, Ryan

Fin was very good. Very clean around stoppage and his running capacity. Reef played up against Mcstay and they two had a good battle, both had their moments.

As well as Parker did last season, he looks much like a footballer now.

Going by the structure in match sim, seems we may be heading for 2 forwards, 1 2nd ruck (white team was Cox, Black team was Smit) fwiw, Checkers didn't participate today.



They did some 1v1 fighting in line groups, then they ran out of there and it seems, to past aami park where storm trains; did some intense tackling drills, then up to the tan for some hill sprints to finish off their massive session. Probably ended up 3hrs overall.
They do usually like to drive them hard on the last day of training before the break. His body shape definitely has changed now.






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Hi there Jen2310 - thanks so much for all the valued information that you so freely provide. I hope you and your loved ones enjoy a fantastic festive season and best wishes for 2025 - hope your side wins the flag.
 
Daicosian silk said:
West looks more physically ready than Logan Morris who played a heap of games in his first year at the Lions including the Grand Final so no reason why Charlie wouldn’t play a few games next season if his form is ok in the VFL
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Rookie Me compared him to Morris

Nonetheless, West is clearly capable of performing as a high-production key forward. His imposing frame was difficult to handle at Under 18 level, as he could dominate opponents aerially and brush them off when the ball hit the deck. With a better running capacity, especially at just under genuine key position height, he projects as a solid third tall option in the mould of Brisbane's Logan Morris.

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Charlie West Draft Profile

Woodville-West Torrens key forward Charlie West is a strong contested marker who attacks the ball with vigour.
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Dtennent94 said:
Not alone, but there seems to be a chance we’ll be without De Goey too - if not based on his current status, then based on his history of being injured at some stage every year.

That’s our numbers 1 & 2 inside mids that could be out suddenly. Then we end up putting Crisp or Perryman in there to replace them and we lose the benefit of being able to use them from the backline AND having a weaker midfield for it.
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Agree. When JDG and Titch went out last year, the midfield stood up excellently with Nick, Crisp and Pendles going full time - until Pendles joined them in the sidelines and wasn't fit when he returned. Plus we lost our transition as we no longer had Crisp and Pendles rotating through half back. No option to shift Nick to fill the hole. Whe was needed at CHF. Markov was in baby land. IQ didn't seem fit. Our flanks went to meh. Injuries hurt. They suck. I just think a Mitchell injury is more coverable than a lot of others. I'm not going to jinx it with names.
 
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Jen2310 said:
Pre-season training

December 13th.
9:30am


Bobby made a brief appearance in casual training t-shirt, walked around the oval with a trainer; then went inside. He clearly did something on tuesday, when he did early drills and then disappeared. Unless its concussion..

Jordy, Checkers just completed some running then were on the bikes.
Long did some running, some drills.
Josh D only rode the bike. Dealing with a niggle.
WHE was also absent.

No sign of Cochrane, but he did a decent running session yesterday. He should be back into full training in the new year.


They started off with some conditioning, which Ash actually did very well in this. Maybe if it had gone on much longer he would have dropped back, but he was at the start of the pack. It was probably about 20-30 metre sprints up and back.

Then they went into some fundamentals, kicking drills, then there was this drill -- where I'm not sure it was keepings off your opposition, or just make the oppostion to come at you. It revolved around players to kick around to one another, and there was some players in the middle of the circle that had to try to force a turnover and intercept the ball. Then following that was a transition drill from two sets of teams on each side of the ground. They would move from the ball from D50 and through the F50.

Then match sim begun:

Wingers - (white)Crisp, (black) Sidey (black)Lippa, (White) DeMattia
Cox was up forward while Steene in the ruck for the white team.

White mids: Pendles, Sullivan, Perryman v Black mids: Long, Nick and Allan. Steene & DC rucks
White defence: Markov, TJ, IQ, Dean, Frampton, Howe V Black forwards: Fin, Hayes, Schultz, Johnson, Smit, Jamie
White forwards: Mcstay, West, Cox, Membrey, Beau v Black defence: Parker, Maynard, Houston,Moore, Reef, Ryan

Fin was very good. Very clean around stoppage and his running capacity. Reef played up against Mcstay and they two had a good battle, both had their moments.

As well as Parker did last season, he looks much like a footballer now.

Going by the structure in match sim, seems we may be heading for 2 forwards, 1 2nd ruck (white team was Cox, Black team was Smit) fwiw, Checkers didn't participate today.



They did some 1v1 fighting in line groups, then they ran out of there and it seems, to past aami park where storm trains; did some intense tackling drills, then up to the tan for some hill sprints to finish off their massive session. Probably ended up 3hrs overall.
They do usually like to drive them hard on the last day of training before the break. His body shape definitely has changed now.






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Makes my day reading your reports Jen.

I know Long only did running and partook in a few drills, but what have you made of his preseason to date?


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Eric Shin said:
Makes my day reading your reports Jen.

I know Long only did running and partook in a few drills, but what have you made of his preseason to date?


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Hasn't stood out to me, but he looks fit and going well.
 

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