Review Port vs Brisbane QF @ The Gabba - It's OK Guys, Finals are a Bit Scary

[Us against the rest]

Oh on a side note, Lycett is the worst ruckman in the league.

 

[PJ Power]

Oh on a side note, Lycett is the worst ruckman in the league.

Not great list management when you consider we went into this year with Lycett and Teakle as our preferred rucks, and McKenzie as our second key defender.

 

[Louis Litt]

Hinkley doesn’t believe in practising set shots. He thinks it’s just all mental. Meanwhile, players continue to make basic mistakes with set shots, such as going too close to the man on the mark. We must be the woust set as shot side in the comp, and it regularly costs us important games, and this will continue as long as we’re stuck with the brilliant mind of Ken Hinkley.

If true unbelievable, this is the first thing players should do. Explains a lot.
Malcolm Blight said have your aligned with the goal posts - kick straight - you cannot miss. The first quarter the players were in front of goals and then side stepped in the run up or hooked their leg.

 

[Us against the rest]

Not great list management when you consider we went into this year with Lycett and Teakle as our preferred rucks, and McKenzie as our second key defender.

Exactly.

 

[Louis Litt]

THE GOOD

We got a good run with the umpires.

Lord - a big forward kicking a bag. Best game he's played.
Rozee - spark and class when free but wasn't that free.
Rioli - most of his touches were gold.
Drew - very good game.
Overall, the defending was pretty good but when the boys dropped their guts, it became a parade.
Lachie Jones - not bad.
Bergman - up there as well but problems still with kicking.
Aliir - I thought he was OK considering he was a bit injured.
Horne-Francis - tried but the Lions played him well.
Williams - OK

THE MEDIOCRE

Butters - his worst game for a while. The Lions played him well.
Marshall - horrible body language kicking those goal. Didn't want it.
Burton - mediocre or ugly, probably mediocre.
Houston - average but battled.
Powell-Pepper - he was played well. Tried but down.

THE UGLY

Coaching and tactics - terrible. A loser attitude and very passive, especially behind the ball. No freaking run.
Forwards - kicking poorly in the first half.
Defence - overlooked but our running from defence was the worst for the year. I don't think we had a backmen anywhere near metres gained. The main reason we lost the game.
Playing injured players - Lycett, McKenzie not so good.
Midfield - they got beat but they kept trying.
We really need a ruck.
They were just well drilled.

Lycett - battled hard but goneski. Hayes would probably have been better.
McEntee - does absolutely nothing. The worst, just the worst. He wouldn't make the AFLW team.
Wines - just couldn't get it done. Nowhere near captain material.
Byrne-Jones - one nice goal but horrible especially one on one.
Duursma - terrible and slow and doesn't trust his body. Needs a week in the tropics.
Farrell - missing in action but not quite as bad as McEntee.
Finlayson - hot or cold, cold in Brisbane.
McKenzie - old and ragged.
Boak - he gets a pass for being 23

ELEPHANT MAN UGLY

Hinkley - a parasite.
Koch - a parasite lover and a puppet.
We lost the game by structure. They were just efficient and worked together as a whole.
Hinkleyball.

We are going to have a real problem against the GWS.

 

[raptalia]

Is Carr really the answer? Why do we keep assuming this? In two showdowns, a QF and a couple of other big losses, he has presided over a very capable midfield that has been soundly beaten. He failed to select/develop a second ruckman early enough this year, investing wasted games in Teakle as his preferred option when Lycett was dropped. He hasn’t got the wings right at any stage. He couldn’t find a way to get games into Jackson when his form was running hot. I don’t think Carr’s the God of coaching that everyone assumes he is. He might be an upgrade by far on Hinkley, but we have to look properly for the best candidate when the time finally comes to get a new coach.

Why is all that Josh Carr's fault? None of us have any idea what is said at the selection table but I imagine the Head Coach would have a casting vote, if indeed that is how it is done. I agree with some of your assessment on the mistakes made but I am not sure they can be laid entirely at Josh Carr's feet. Three of our midfield made the All Australian team so I do not see that they have been beaten all that often.

 

[Louis Litt]

I thought Lycett did well against Yhe Big O. Before the game I thought the Big O would kill us but he did not.
Jones special mention - he was not the disaster zone I thought he would be - his kicking was good.
the total disaster - Marshall again - Finlayson - what’s up with him and Dursma fumbly.

 

[TeeKray]

There's no use talking about specifics. Everyone is talking about personnel and criticising individuals when it's obvious that isn't the problem. We have people saying Wines can't play when he literally broke the record for most Brownlow votes of all time less than 2 years ago. We have people saying Marshall can't kick when he couldn't miss from anywhere as recently as last year. The problem is not individuals. The problem is coaching and culture.

We have no discernible system other than hoping the midfield dominates and trying to lock the ball in our half. We can't control the tempo of a game in any other way. A coach's job is to bring a group of individuals together to be collectively stronger as a team, minimising its weaknesses and maximising its strengths. It's obvious this is not happening.

Our culture is the worst part though. We accept mediocrity so that is what we get. The continued extension of Hinkley is the obvious example but it's a broader narrative than that. The little battler club mentality. The constant loser talk from everyone at all levels of the club. It all comes out in these big occasions when we go to water. Strong clubs with good cultures rise to the occasion in these games and actually perform at a higher level than normal. We play meek and scared and that's because we are a meek and scared club. We see ourselves as a challenger brand and that's the way we play. Oh we'll have a shot at the big boys but it's a bit too much to expect us to win, don't you think? There's no hard or ruthless edge, no determination or resolve. It's just going through the motions and oh well, always next year.

There's a very good reason the more astute people on this forum were unfazed when we won 13 in a row despite everyone else talking about grand finals. The evidence suggests that we don't have what it takes to win finals and perform at the business end of the season against the good teams when the stakes are high. That evidence only grew stronger last night.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

We had no run and carry from our backs.

Houston, Burton, Farrell and Williams had very little penetration going into the F50.

Those backs can get to 600 metres and sometimes 700 metres gained were around 300 metres or so.

Bergman at 400.
Farrell at 316.
Houston at 286,
Burton at 259.
Lachie Jones at 196.
Williams at 132.
McKenzie at 117.

I think it is the most damning stat apart from the scoreboard.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

There's no use talking about specifics. Everyone is talking about personnel and criticising individuals when it's obvious that isn't the problem. We have people saying Wines can't play when he literally broke the record for most Brownlow votes of all time less than 2 years ago. We have people saying Marshall can't kick when he couldn't miss from anywhere as recently as last year. The problem is not individuals. The problem is coaching and culture.

We have no discernible system other than hoping the midfield dominates and trying to lock the ball in our half. We can't control the tempo of a game in any other way. A coach's job is to bring a group of individuals together to be collectively stronger as a team, minimising its weaknesses and maximising its strengths. It's obvious this is not happening.

Our culture is the worst part though. We accept mediocrity so that is what we get. The continued extension of Hinkley is the obvious example but it's a broader narrative than that. The little battler club mentality. The constant loser talk from everyone at all levels of the club. It all comes out in these big occasions when we go to water. Strong clubs with good cultures rise to the occasion in these games and actually perform at a higher level than normal. We play meek and scared and that's because we are a meek and scared club. We see ourselves as a challenger brand and that's the way we play. Oh we'll have a shot at the big boys but it's a bit too much to expect us to win, don't you think? There's no hard or ruthless edge, no determination or resolve. It's just going through the motions and oh well, always next year.

There's a very good reason the more astute people on this forum were unfazed when we won 13 in a row despite everyone else talking about grand finals. The evidence suggests that we don't have what it takes to win finals and perform at the business end of the season against the good teams when the stakes are high. That evidence only grew stronger last night.

2 more years. Crazy times.

 

[Windy Cindy]

There's no use talking about specifics. Everyone is talking about personnel and criticising individuals when it's obvious that isn't the problem. We have people saying Wines can't play when he literally broke the record for most Brownlow votes of all time less than 2 years ago. We have people saying Marshall can't kick when he couldn't miss from anywhere as recently as last year. The problem is not individuals. The problem is coaching and culture.

We have no discernible system other than hoping the midfield dominates and trying to lock the ball in our half. We can't control the tempo of a game in any other way. A coach's job is to bring a group of individuals together to be collectively stronger as a team, minimising its weaknesses and maximising its strengths. It's obvious this is not happening.

Our culture is the worst part though. We accept mediocrity so that is what we get. The continued extension of Hinkley is the obvious example but it's a broader narrative than that. The little battler club mentality. The constant loser talk from everyone at all levels of the club. It all comes out in these big occasions when we go to water. Strong clubs with good cultures rise to the occasion in these games and actually perform at a higher level than normal. We play meek and scared and that's because we are a meek and scared club. We see ourselves as a challenger brand and that's the way we play. Oh we'll have a shot at the big boys but it's a bit too much to expect us to win, don't you think? There's no hard or ruthless edge, no determination or resolve. It's just going through the motions and oh well, always next year.

There's a very good reason the more astute people on this forum were unfazed when we won 13 in a row despite everyone else talking about grand finals. The evidence suggests that we don't have what it takes to win finals and perform at the business end of the season against the good teams when the stakes are high. That evidence only grew stronger last night.

Agree, but what the evidence also showed was the reputation of some of our senior players to spud it up in big finals. The 2 you mentioned are front of mind, not Just them, I could add Allir, boak finalyson, lycett was fair but has spudded it up previously. We are going nowhere when these senior players can’t stand up

 

[raptalia]

Not great list management when you consider we went into this year with Lycett and Teakle as our preferred rucks, and McKenzie as our second key defender.

I have to admit that back in March I thought we had the rucks pretty well covered. Lycett was coming off a good 2022 and Teakle had shown glimpses until injured against the Swans and we had Hayes and Visentini as develpoing ruckmen.

With hindsight it is now obvious that Lycett's days are numbered, Hayes' ticket is marked, Visentini is still developing and Teakle is not up to it. With that in mind what is critically important is what we do in the trade period and how we restructure.

It is also obvious that Trent McKenzie is in the Lycett category as his best days are probably behind him. We need a second tall defender and this highlights our failure to develop talls under Ken Hinkley. As I have posted previously the only tall that I can recall being developed under Hinkley's guidance is Todd Marshall and that is a particularly damning fact and the reason we are in the shite.

The bottom line is we have to move heaven and earth to get Grundy and Ratagolea to Alberton.

In fact that solution is part of our problem as we go out looking for quick fix solutions rather than developing 195+cm key defenders and forwards.

 

[raptalia]

There's no use talking about specifics. Everyone is talking about personnel and criticising individuals when it's obvious that isn't the problem. We have people saying Wines can't play when he literally broke the record for most Brownlow votes of all time less than 2 years ago. We have people saying Marshall can't kick when he couldn't miss from anywhere as recently as last year. The problem is not individuals. The problem is coaching and culture.

We have no discernible system other than hoping the midfield dominates and trying to lock the ball in our half. We can't control the tempo of a game in any other way. A coach's job is to bring a group of individuals together to be collectively stronger as a team, minimising its weaknesses and maximising its strengths. It's obvious this is not happening.

Our culture is the worst part though. We accept mediocrity so that is what we get. The continued extension of Hinkley is the obvious example but it's a broader narrative than that. The little battler club mentality. The constant loser talk from everyone at all levels of the club. It all comes out in these big occasions when we go to water. Strong clubs with good cultures rise to the occasion in these games and actually perform at a higher level than normal. We play meek and scared and that's because we are a meek and scared club. We see ourselves as a challenger brand and that's the way we play. Oh we'll have a shot at the big boys but it's a bit too much to expect us to win, don't you think? There's no hard or ruthless edge, no determination or resolve. It's just going through the motions and oh well, always next year.

There's a very good reason the more astute people on this forum were unfazed when we won 13 in a row despite everyone else talking about grand finals. The evidence suggests that we don't have what it takes to win finals and perform at the business end of the season against the good teams when the stakes are high. That evidence only grew stronger last night.

You know that, I know that, but alas the people who make the decisions at Alberton do not. I am not sure what it is going to take to get Koch and Co to make the necessary changes.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

I'm angry. Though I'm really not sure whether I'm angry at Port for such an insipid performance, or whether I'm angry at myself for getting sucked into believing this team just might be different to the previous Hinkley teams of years past.

Such an embarrassing performance. It's nights like these as to why the Club should never has extended Ken's contract prior to this finals series.



Who cares if they have off field issues? If you're putting your hand up to play, you don't get to have an asterisk excusing you of piss poor performance irrespective of what is happening in your life off the field. If you can't perform, don't play, find someone else who can.

And around we go again.

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[Enviable Tradition]

What time on Monday do we get the Rucci propaganda piece on the Port website? Something about “great teams face adversity” or “Keeping the faith”

Hell liken 2020 to 2001

2021 to 2022

And 2023 to 2003

Once we go out of finals.

Nothing surer

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[TazD]

There's no use talking about specifics. Everyone is talking about personnel and criticising individuals when it's obvious that isn't the problem. We have people saying Wines can't play when he literally broke the record for most Brownlow votes of all time less than 2 years ago. We have people saying Marshall can't kick when he couldn't miss from anywhere as recently as last year. The problem is not individuals. The problem is coaching and culture.

We have no discernible system other than hoping the midfield dominates and trying to lock the ball in our half. We can't control the tempo of a game in any other way. A coach's job is to bring a group of individuals together to be collectively stronger as a team, minimising its weaknesses and maximising its strengths. It's obvious this is not happening.

Our culture is the worst part though. We accept mediocrity so that is what we get. The continued extension of Hinkley is the obvious example but it's a broader narrative than that. The little battler club mentality. The constant loser talk from everyone at all levels of the club. It all comes out in these big occasions when we go to water. Strong clubs with good cultures rise to the occasion in these games and actually perform at a higher level than normal. We play meek and scared and that's because we are a meek and scared club. We see ourselves as a challenger brand and that's the way we play. Oh we'll have a shot at the big boys but it's a bit too much to expect us to win, don't you think? There's no hard or ruthless edge, no determination or resolve. It's just going through the motions and oh well, always next year.

There's a very good reason the more astute people on this forum were unfazed when we won 13 in a row despite everyone else talking about grand finals. The evidence suggests that we don't have what it takes to win finals and perform at the business end of the season against the good teams when the stakes are high. That evidence only grew stronger last night.

Forget all that and just back the boys!

 

[Duck Farmer]

We all know this year doesn't count. Next year's our year when we lock in the missing pieces in Grundy and Ratagolea. Let's judge Ken then.

 

[Panther Blood]

Maybe Finlayson would be a better fit at the Clowns, then he wouldn't have to worry about performing in finals.

Keep your own rubbish thank you ....

 

[johnnysix]

Pretty gutted today. Not because I had high expectations necessarily but because deep down as much as I wanted to get excited and treat every new opportunity as a clean slate, this has been on the cards the whole time. Yeah, there's next week but last night was serious gut punch, not just for this season but for the foreseeable future. Same old problems rearing their ugly head. Same issues left untreated. The worst part about renewing Ken was that it was an opportunity to provide some hope by bringing in a new coach no matter what you think of what Hinkleys done. We keep delivering the same old crap when its on the line. We are terrified of actual success and it's so hard to keep backing up year after year with tease after tease while the club and president fall over themselves to celebrate staying the same.

 

[Papa G]

I noticed that Brisbane players targetted JHF a lot and it got me thinking.. why being a 30 year old grown ass man going after someone who just reached adulthood is considered tough in the AFL?

They won the game. Their tactics worked.

 

[johnnysix]

B

I noticed that Brisbane players targetted JHF a lot and it got me thinking.. why being a 30 year old grown ass man going after someone who just reached adulthood is considered tough in the AFL?

Old enough to win a brownlow or earn hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. Old enough to make older players look stupid. Old enough to keep veterans out of a team. Old enough when you walk across the white line. You think JHF felt bullied? Lol.

 

[jakey]

We basically St Kilda. Zero ego. Zero belief. Constantly piss away excellent lists and finals opportunities.

 

[1954]

I had the best sleep last night I've ever had after yet another disappointing loss, and I'm putting it down to my subconscious finally getting the message through that the hierarchy don't give a fat rat's clacker, and neither do our grinning ape of a coach and way too many of the players, so why the f*** should you!

 

[EskimoPAFC]

I noticed that Brisbane players targetted JHF a lot and it got me thinking.. why being a 30 year old grown ass man going after someone who just reached adulthood is considered tough in the AFL?

Its a team game. If we let that happen that's on us.

 

[LeoMessi]

I thought Lycett was OK. Battled hard in the ruck. Doesn’t offer much anymore at ground level though. Used to bob up with a goal or 2 here and there. Don’t think he’s kicked a goal this year at all.