The bill is a disgrace. Everyone involved in its support is a disgrace.
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The bill is a disgrace. Everyone involved in its support is a disgrace.
What because some old codger made a statement, and then the yanks sent 10 billion in aid to Israel anyway.
I guess the fact that 70% of Palestinians agree with what happened on Oct7 is all good.
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There is a level of supporters amongst the pro Palestinian brigade that quietly believe that Hamas’s rape, slaughter & hostage taking is justified.
These supporters are mainly the same leftist activists that were remarkably silent when Syria killed 500,000 Muslims,Yemen killed 250,000 and China killed 1,000,000 Uyghurs. The question has to be asked. Is the support for Palestinians largely because the Israelis are mainly Jewish ?
Sadly the level of antisemitism has risen to all time high, that is very clear. I don't think this is representative of the majority of the population.
Israel has enormous support from the silent majority to finish the job, minimize civilian casualties (not easy when the enemy dress like civilians and use them as human shields) and completely demilitarize Hamas.
I have stated my concern previously at the radical indoctrination process to hate and kill jews that Hamas has forced on the children from birth, now over several generations. There are now very few Gazans that wish to live peacefully and coexist with Israel and see that to kill a Jew is a matter of great family honor.
The attached video is the story of Dom Shachar who grew up in Gaza and provides testimony of what brutality he experienced as he resisted the anti Jew hate that was pushed on him as a child and an insight into what Gazan children experience from birth and also some of the propaganda tactics used by Hamas in this war.
These supporters are mainly the same leftist activists that were remarkably silent when Syria killed 500,000 Muslims,Yemen killed 250,000 and China killed 1,000,000 Uyghurs. The question has to be asked. Is the support for Palestinians largely because the Israelis are mainly Jewish ?
Sadly the level of antisemitism has risen to all time high, that is very clear. I don't think this is representative of the majority of the population.
Israel has enormous support from the silent majority to finish the job, minimize civilian casualties (not easy when the enemy dress like civilians and use them as human shields) and completely demilitarize Hamas.
I have stated my concern previously at the radical indoctrination process to hate and kill jews that Hamas has forced on the children from birth, now over several generations. There are now very few Gazans that wish to live peacefully and coexist with Israel and see that to kill a Jew is a matter of great family honor.
The attached video is the story of Dom Shachar who grew up in Gaza and provides testimony of what brutality he experienced as he resisted the anti Jew hate that was pushed on him as a child and an insight into what Gazan children experience from birth and also some of the propaganda tactics used by Hamas in this war.
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Very good article
What has happened to the West’s will to win?
What has happened to the West’s will to win?
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surely this is just public servants being public servants and wasn't the intention of the legislation or the ATSI peoples who wanted it in to protect their ancient rock art from being blown up by mining companies:
Why win when you make more money from perpetual war?Very good article
What has happened to the West’s will to win?
What has happened to the West’s will to win?todayspaper.theaustralian.com.au
Quoting Churchill and Roosevelt is just daft, Germany was an actual military threat.
No one saw this coming...
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Navalny dead of natural causes, felt unwell after going for a walk - yeah sure.
Can't wait for taylor's take on this
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Really? I call bullsh!t. Where's this information coming from? Of anyone I've ever spoken to about this topic, currently those who are/were in favour of October 7th currently sits at 0%.
I think it comes from the common use of 'but' after mentioning the atrocities.
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You mean ""sudden death syndrome" - a generic, vague term for a condition which causes sudden death from cardiac arrest with no apparent cause."
Not so unusual these days, especially after well, you know what.
They need to have that post mortem done with a variety of independent doctors.
Navalny's team accuses Russia of 'hiding' his body
An ally of the opposition activist, who died on Friday, says officials are "trying to cover traces".
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One of the few critiques of Tucker's interview of Putin to bring this up.
15.11: The exception of one one area where I was disappointed but not surprised the problem in Russia is that the Russian government has not come to terms with the Stalinist period and communism.
Now everyone knows that communism was a disaster but what the Russian people really are not aware of, they don't have the details, I think many of them know, their instincts tell them this, their fathers, grandfathers told them these things, but they they are not really fully aware of the tens of millions of human beings that were murdered between 1918 and the beginning of the second World War.
Millions and what people don't understand is that in 1939 when you had the Soviet German PACT between Ribbentrop, the German
foreign minister and Molotov, the Soviet foreign Minister this enabled Stalin and his armies to overrun Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and half of Finland as well as nearly half of Poland. This resulted in the death, either through deportation execution or simple exposure, to the elements for millions of people that lived in those areas.
That doesn't come up for discussion. Instead everyone talks about well Hitler, Hitler, Hitler. There could not have been a second world war without two things. First of all without communism coming to power in 1918 and then consolidating its power, through the murder of millions of human beings inside the Soviet Union. You would not have had the fear that emerged in the rest of Europe particularly in Germany where by the time Hitler is is finally elected to office and when I say elected that's misleading, he had 32% of the vote.
It was largely in response to the fear of Communism inside Germany. People knew that millions were being starved to death. That somewhere between seven and 10 million Ukrainians inside Ukraine were starved to death and orchestrated famine those who were not starved to death, deliberately by the removal of all food and the decimation of their families. The destruction of their property were then shot on site, r*ped and shot or deported.
The difference between the Concentration Camp system that develops early in the 20s and lasts all the way into the early 1960s and the concentration camp that spring up after we go into or after the Germans go into Eastern Europe after the invasion of the Soviet Union, is the concentration camps in Russia are in areas where the weather is so severe the temperatures are so low, the food is so bad, the treatment meeted out to the prisoners was so horrific, that within the first 30 days to 90 days to six months almost everybody was dead.
In other words you didn't have to deliberately employ chemical means to eradicate the desired population. They died of exposure. More people died between 1918 and 1941, we think, is maybe more than died during the second world war fighting against the Nazis.
The other thing is that they talk about the Great Patriotic War, but 1.5 million so-called Soviet citizens volunteered for Duty with the Vermont. Hundreds of thousands of Russians, more than a quarter of a million Ukrainians, hundreds of thousands of Mongolian turkic, Armenian, Georgian people, tartars all of them, settled up as soon as they could with the Germans against communism.
That's what people don't understand there were 2 million Soviet prisoners of War sitting in camps that were ready to volunteer and go out and fight with the Germans against the Soviets, something that Hitler refused to do which was a terrible mistake. In other words people don't understand that communism was the real cause of this horrific War.
Now that doesn't absolve Hitler, but it it it changes the complexion of the discussion. I didn't expect Putin to mention all of it, but the notion that you could have had a war at all without Stalin is ludicrously nonsense and even in more material terms when the Germans finally attack the West when they go into Scandinavia and they overrun the low countries to feed the British and the French and France all of the oil all of the raw materials the food the gasoline everything is from Russia supplied by Stalin.
Because Stalin hoped that the Germans and the British and the French would end up in a World War I scenario in a stalemate which
would then offer him opportunity to attack from behind. Didn't work out that way did it? But you know the problem is the Russians need to know the truth. They closed down the nkvd archives so that the Russians do not know the full truth. They were finding it out up until about 2001, 2002.
People were becoming enraged when they found out that more than 15 (million) Soviet soldiers died in the war they were enraged when they found out that Stalin's nkvd executed 1 million Soviet soldiers who refused to fight the Germans so this Great Patriotic War myth, if you will, is something they can't afford to destroy, at least in their minds.
Now everything that was said about Tsarist Russia from 932 up to 1918 was was true and accurate and however many mistakes Tsars may have made and however inhumane from time to time they have may have been, compared with what followed them, they were wild-eyed humanitarians. That was my problem.
Now Tucker couldn't push back against the head of state and say you're not telling us the truth about what happened with Stalin. That's, that was beyond the scope of this thing, but I'm disappointed that no one in Russia will stand up and tell the truth. Stop pretending that there was something good that happened under communism. There wasn't. It was the evil empire.
The good news is that today's Russia has nothing in common with it and if anything it looks more like Tsarist Russia, only with a much more humanitarian face and a much higher standard of living. We should all be grateful for that and they should take great pride in that.
That that's my personal frustration that the truth just hasn't hit the light.
Quite frankly if Putin had wanted to he could have started his rendition of history since 1989, that's really what's vitally important to us and what what he said was true, we goaded Russia into attacking eastern Ukraine. We made it impossible for them to stand by and do nothing they had begged us privately whatever you do, don't expand NATO to our borders. Don't do it. They tolerated the expansion into Poland. You know, a state with a population that historically is incurably anti-russian.
I mean the first thing that happened when Napoleon Bonaparte showed up is that he was joined by 50,000 polish soldiers and Poland didn't have 50,000 soldiers so where did they come? From the population rose up and joined and the poles were in the Forefront of urging Bonaparte to march on Moscow.
So why you know, the first question is in my mind at the time I like the Poles, but why would we bring the poles into Nato. I wouldn't have done it for the simple reason that it was a catalyst or conflict with Russia. Well we did, we brought them in, along with Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, all of whom have unhappy histories because of Communism.
Now my point is this, he could have spoken about that and he did, not as vociferously as I have, but he made the point that we had asked you not to do that and it became clear that Ukraine was being transformed into this dagger pointed at our throat. I was glad that came out and that was true.
The big questions are not, well Mr Putin why are you evil? Mr Putin why do you want to attack the West? That's all nonsense, you know, that is just irrelevant nonsense. The other thing is that he pointed something out that I think we should all take take note of. He said, "what are you doing in Ukraine?" "What is there, here for you? You have problems at home look at your $34 trillion debt." He said 33, it's actually 34 and we're we've got a trillion dollars a year now to service our national sovereign debt, it's unsustainable.
It's just a question of when it all falls apart and he says "what what's your interest here?" "Why are you doing this?" "You have other fish to fry." So to say in other words, why are you meddling in the internal affairs of others and that's what we've been doing for 50 years off and on. It's got to stop.
The justification for meddling is well you're not sufficiently Democratic. Well I think a lot of people looking at the United States today are wondering about our Republic and just how Democratic it is, that's another matter. But we got to get back to Washington and Hamilton who made the argument that America should become the world's engine of prosperity and if we are successful with our government with our economy people all over the world will admire us and they'll want to emulate us.
That was in response to Jefferson, who who like the French Revolution at the time, wanted to export Revolution at the point of a bayonet. Washington and Hamilton said if we're going to export Revolution let's do it peacefully along the lines that I just described. Let's show people just how good it can be and others will say yeah right they've got a good model let's pick it up and emulate it.
We've done the opposite and now we're increasingly isolated in the world.
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15.11: The exception of one one area where I was disappointed but not surprised the problem in Russia is that the Russian government has not come to terms with the Stalinist period and communism.
Now everyone knows that communism was a disaster but what the Russian people really are not aware of, they don't have the details, I think many of them know, their instincts tell them this, their fathers, grandfathers told them these things, but they they are not really fully aware of the tens of millions of human beings that were murdered between 1918 and the beginning of the second World War.
Millions and what people don't understand is that in 1939 when you had the Soviet German PACT between Ribbentrop, the German
foreign minister and Molotov, the Soviet foreign Minister this enabled Stalin and his armies to overrun Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and half of Finland as well as nearly half of Poland. This resulted in the death, either through deportation execution or simple exposure, to the elements for millions of people that lived in those areas.
That doesn't come up for discussion. Instead everyone talks about well Hitler, Hitler, Hitler. There could not have been a second world war without two things. First of all without communism coming to power in 1918 and then consolidating its power, through the murder of millions of human beings inside the Soviet Union. You would not have had the fear that emerged in the rest of Europe particularly in Germany where by the time Hitler is is finally elected to office and when I say elected that's misleading, he had 32% of the vote.
It was largely in response to the fear of Communism inside Germany. People knew that millions were being starved to death. That somewhere between seven and 10 million Ukrainians inside Ukraine were starved to death and orchestrated famine those who were not starved to death, deliberately by the removal of all food and the decimation of their families. The destruction of their property were then shot on site, r*ped and shot or deported.
The difference between the Concentration Camp system that develops early in the 20s and lasts all the way into the early 1960s and the concentration camp that spring up after we go into or after the Germans go into Eastern Europe after the invasion of the Soviet Union, is the concentration camps in Russia are in areas where the weather is so severe the temperatures are so low, the food is so bad, the treatment meeted out to the prisoners was so horrific, that within the first 30 days to 90 days to six months almost everybody was dead.
In other words you didn't have to deliberately employ chemical means to eradicate the desired population. They died of exposure. More people died between 1918 and 1941, we think, is maybe more than died during the second world war fighting against the Nazis.
The other thing is that they talk about the Great Patriotic War, but 1.5 million so-called Soviet citizens volunteered for Duty with the Vermont. Hundreds of thousands of Russians, more than a quarter of a million Ukrainians, hundreds of thousands of Mongolian turkic, Armenian, Georgian people, tartars all of them, settled up as soon as they could with the Germans against communism.
That's what people don't understand there were 2 million Soviet prisoners of War sitting in camps that were ready to volunteer and go out and fight with the Germans against the Soviets, something that Hitler refused to do which was a terrible mistake. In other words people don't understand that communism was the real cause of this horrific War.
Now that doesn't absolve Hitler, but it it it changes the complexion of the discussion. I didn't expect Putin to mention all of it, but the notion that you could have had a war at all without Stalin is ludicrously nonsense and even in more material terms when the Germans finally attack the West when they go into Scandinavia and they overrun the low countries to feed the British and the French and France all of the oil all of the raw materials the food the gasoline everything is from Russia supplied by Stalin.
Because Stalin hoped that the Germans and the British and the French would end up in a World War I scenario in a stalemate which
would then offer him opportunity to attack from behind. Didn't work out that way did it? But you know the problem is the Russians need to know the truth. They closed down the nkvd archives so that the Russians do not know the full truth. They were finding it out up until about 2001, 2002.
People were becoming enraged when they found out that more than 15 (million) Soviet soldiers died in the war they were enraged when they found out that Stalin's nkvd executed 1 million Soviet soldiers who refused to fight the Germans so this Great Patriotic War myth, if you will, is something they can't afford to destroy, at least in their minds.
Now everything that was said about Tsarist Russia from 932 up to 1918 was was true and accurate and however many mistakes Tsars may have made and however inhumane from time to time they have may have been, compared with what followed them, they were wild-eyed humanitarians. That was my problem.
Now Tucker couldn't push back against the head of state and say you're not telling us the truth about what happened with Stalin. That's, that was beyond the scope of this thing, but I'm disappointed that no one in Russia will stand up and tell the truth. Stop pretending that there was something good that happened under communism. There wasn't. It was the evil empire.
The good news is that today's Russia has nothing in common with it and if anything it looks more like Tsarist Russia, only with a much more humanitarian face and a much higher standard of living. We should all be grateful for that and they should take great pride in that.
That that's my personal frustration that the truth just hasn't hit the light.
Quite frankly if Putin had wanted to he could have started his rendition of history since 1989, that's really what's vitally important to us and what what he said was true, we goaded Russia into attacking eastern Ukraine. We made it impossible for them to stand by and do nothing they had begged us privately whatever you do, don't expand NATO to our borders. Don't do it. They tolerated the expansion into Poland. You know, a state with a population that historically is incurably anti-russian.
I mean the first thing that happened when Napoleon Bonaparte showed up is that he was joined by 50,000 polish soldiers and Poland didn't have 50,000 soldiers so where did they come? From the population rose up and joined and the poles were in the Forefront of urging Bonaparte to march on Moscow.
So why you know, the first question is in my mind at the time I like the Poles, but why would we bring the poles into Nato. I wouldn't have done it for the simple reason that it was a catalyst or conflict with Russia. Well we did, we brought them in, along with Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, all of whom have unhappy histories because of Communism.
Now my point is this, he could have spoken about that and he did, not as vociferously as I have, but he made the point that we had asked you not to do that and it became clear that Ukraine was being transformed into this dagger pointed at our throat. I was glad that came out and that was true.
The big questions are not, well Mr Putin why are you evil? Mr Putin why do you want to attack the West? That's all nonsense, you know, that is just irrelevant nonsense. The other thing is that he pointed something out that I think we should all take take note of. He said, "what are you doing in Ukraine?" "What is there, here for you? You have problems at home look at your $34 trillion debt." He said 33, it's actually 34 and we're we've got a trillion dollars a year now to service our national sovereign debt, it's unsustainable.
It's just a question of when it all falls apart and he says "what what's your interest here?" "Why are you doing this?" "You have other fish to fry." So to say in other words, why are you meddling in the internal affairs of others and that's what we've been doing for 50 years off and on. It's got to stop.
The justification for meddling is well you're not sufficiently Democratic. Well I think a lot of people looking at the United States today are wondering about our Republic and just how Democratic it is, that's another matter. But we got to get back to Washington and Hamilton who made the argument that America should become the world's engine of prosperity and if we are successful with our government with our economy people all over the world will admire us and they'll want to emulate us.
That was in response to Jefferson, who who like the French Revolution at the time, wanted to export Revolution at the point of a bayonet. Washington and Hamilton said if we're going to export Revolution let's do it peacefully along the lines that I just described. Let's show people just how good it can be and others will say yeah right they've got a good model let's pick it up and emulate it.
We've done the opposite and now we're increasingly isolated in the world.
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I've been saying much the same things here and there, but I'd disagree with the notion that you couldn't have had WW2 without communism and Russia's actions... while a contributing factor, there was a hell of a lot more to it than that.
Brest-Litovsk was responsible for creating the nation of Ukraine back in 1917, and after WW1 the Entente sort of "forgot" to give it back to Russia, even though they did overturn much of the rest of the treaty at Versailles.
Agree in general on the Wests attitude toward Russia, "creating the enemy" sort thing, particularly after 1990 when the Soviet Union collapsed.
Putin made overtures to join NATO back then (early 2000's, from memory?), but was rebuffed. The West could have made an ally out of Russia, and Russia might not have been the same place it is now. Russian membership in NATO might even have been a stepping stone for Russia to join the EU, as a hypothetical. Ukraine would probably never have become an issue at all.
I'm very worried about the real reason Eastern Europe and NATO are being asked to beef up their militaries. Aside from the obvious economic gain (particularly for the USA), there doesn't seem to be any need for all the noise being made. Russia has hardly been able to make any inroads into Ukraine, let alone taking on NATO members as well. It would be insane for them to attack anyone else, so why are we being warned that we should prepare for it?
What really concerns me is that its not an attack by Russia they're preparing for.
Brest-Litovsk was responsible for creating the nation of Ukraine back in 1917, and after WW1 the Entente sort of "forgot" to give it back to Russia, even though they did overturn much of the rest of the treaty at Versailles.
Agree in general on the Wests attitude toward Russia, "creating the enemy" sort thing, particularly after 1990 when the Soviet Union collapsed.
Putin made overtures to join NATO back then (early 2000's, from memory?), but was rebuffed. The West could have made an ally out of Russia, and Russia might not have been the same place it is now. Russian membership in NATO might even have been a stepping stone for Russia to join the EU, as a hypothetical. Ukraine would probably never have become an issue at all.
I'm very worried about the real reason Eastern Europe and NATO are being asked to beef up their militaries. Aside from the obvious economic gain (particularly for the USA), there doesn't seem to be any need for all the noise being made. Russia has hardly been able to make any inroads into Ukraine, let alone taking on NATO members as well. It would be insane for them to attack anyone else, so why are we being warned that we should prepare for it?
What really concerns me is that its not an attack by Russia they're preparing for.
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Here's something else I've mentioned elsewhere:
www.abc.net.au
Security concerns grow as China opens its fifth base in Antarctica
When China opened its fifth research station in Antarctica this month, analysts sounded alarm bells about potential security threats on Australia's southern doorstep.
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Some old codger who is Jewish and highly intelligent who has a far greater knowledge of political issues than yourself.
If you know much about Bernie you know he doesn't have a strong grasp on issues outside of his Socialist marxist ideology. Look up his record for work completed, activity in his role. He is barely active outside his runs for office.
Also, not that I am meaning to point out the major flaws in your logic when you post... If I was to find someone who was Jewish, with a higher IQ than Bernie and he supported Israel would you change your mind?
Also to show you his depth see his comments on how no one should be a millionaire as it is too much money for one person etc etc insert marxist death cult rubbish... then when he became a millionaire he did what all good far lefties do (see the founders of BLM for further evidence), it was now the billionaires that were the issue.
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I think they killed him a long time ago and it's just taken this long for him to die.
Russian loyalists make it out that he was a terrorist leader with a single digit support compared to Putin but that's indistinguishable from other totalitarian propaganda positions.
I generally don't like the machinery of the state removing political opposition.
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Generally?
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If the state has degraded to that point, terrorist is in the eye of the beholder.
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You're right that it's entirely subjective, but how large do you need an opposition to be in order for it to be valid? If a group in Australia ran a political campaign and won 1% primary vote - then started taking terrorist actions against hospitals etc then its not so murky.
I think there's an element of the world disliking Putin so any opponent is put on a pedestal, similarly Ukraine can kill a US journalist in custody and nobody cares.
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Do you think Navalny was a terrorist and Putin was justified in killing him?
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