Pakistan vs West Indies (2 tests)

[Bedi]

anyone have luck with a stream today?

 

[sr36]

anyone have luck with a stream today?

If you've got a VPN - the Indian site fancode plays everything. Subscription, but only about 10 bucks a year.

I haven't used it since returning to Australia a couple of years ago, so no idea if it's still good, but used to run really well.

 

[Bedi]

alright, we're up and running. Took its sweet time...

 

[Bedi]

If you've got a VPN - the Indian site fancode plays everything. Subscription, but only about 10 bucks a year.

I haven't used it since returning to Australia a couple of years ago, so no idea if it's still good, but used to run really well.

It's showing on Sports Central's Youtube page now but i will have to check out Fancode

 

[Bedi]

These are Warrican's best bowling figures. It's his first 5 fer, and you reckon there's plenty more to come his way this innings

 

[PhatBoy]

At the time, Dev and Imran were their countries greatest ever fast bowlers by a considerable margin and good bats. Botham was a brilliant match winner with both disciplines. Hadlee probably the best bowler in the world in his day, and the best cricketer his country has ever produced, but wouldn't be considered an all rounder by today's standards. These guys were extraordinary.

Stokes gets his share of hoopla - because some of his batting feats have been extraordinary and when bowling fit an absolute plug in workhorse with the ball.

No doubt there's been a tendency to underappreciate success in Asian conditions by the western cricket media and public - hence guys like Shakib and Jadeja not getting the praise they warranted amongst the western cricket nations. Shakib was one who would have been picked for either discipline on its own and probably his country's greatest ever player. Imran and Boths the other two who had claims to being selectable for either discipline at stages of their career.

Holder - a beacon of hope in a dark time for WI cricket, but his name doesn't belong with these other guys. And whether it could have really comes down to an assessment of how much potential he had as a bowler. You obviously rate his bowling much higher than I do and consider those years with outstanding figures as his potential, whereas to me they were just unsustainable outliers. He was a good honest bowler.

I think if an English or Australian bowler went on a run like the one described earlier - 8 five wicket hauls in 26 matches - it would raise eyebrows.

I know the manner in which he did it was a major part of it, but Mitchell Johnson’s two brief spells of alchemy still get spoken of like he was the second coming of Malcolm Marshall and realistically they only lasted four or five series in total.

At that point Johnson too had the world at his feet and could have become one of his country’s greats had he continued on the trajectory he was on.

It happens and circumstances impact it

 

[Bedi]

Fair to say Pakistan and West Indies are the two biggest enigmas in world cricket – so either could win this.

 

[Bedi]

6 fer

 

[PhatBoy]

Pakistan would have paid the price for the overt preparation of this deck against any other opposition.

This is the exact reason you don’t exaggerate the natural advantage you already have as a subcontinental side

 

[Bedi]

Pakistan would have paid the price for the overt preparation of this deck against any other opposition.

This is the exact reason you don’t exaggerate the natural advantage you already have as a subcontinental side

With that said i'm fairly certain Sajid is going to bowl out West Indies for 50 runs to win comfortably

 

[Bedi]

7-fer to the Warricane

 

[PhatBoy]

With that said i'm fairly certain Sajid is going to bowl out West Indies for 50 runs to win comfortably

Oh 100 per cent I’m just saying that if if they did this against a competent team with the bat they would be staring at a huge defeat. Has turned their own batting innings into a lottery and even as we speak the only thing separating the sides is that partnership for the fifth wicket in Pakistan’s first innings.

 

[PhatBoy]

F**k yeah that was great fielding

 

[Bedi]

fancy getting run out at this stage of the game

 

[PhatBoy]

What (warri)can’t he do

 

[Bedi]

Oh 100 per cent I’m just saying that if if they did this against a competent team with the bat they would be staring at a huge defeat. Has turned their own batting innings into a lottery and even as we speak the only thing separating the sides is that partnership for the fifth wicket in Pakistan’s first innings.

How's Warrican's effort with bat and ball! Love these cameos by obscure West Indian players only to never see them again.

 

[Bedi]

3rd best ever figures in Pakistan by a visiting bowler

 

[sr36]

Pakistan would have paid the price for the overt preparation of this deck against any other opposition.

This is the exact reason you don’t exaggerate the natural advantage you already have as a subcontinental side

I think it applies everywhere. A while ago South Africa were pissed off that India gave them rank turners on a tour, so they produced pitches in response that were rank seamers. It just levelled their seam advantage because it made a pretty mediocre indian seam attack deadly.

 

[Bedi]

Frustrating they didn't review that last one. Every run from here seems crucial

 

[Bedi]

Out! Chasing 250. Unlikely but they can do it.

 

[Bedi]

That was some session by Warrican!

 

[PhatBoy]

I think it applies everywhere. A while ago South Africa were pissed off that India gave them rank turners, so they produced pitches in response that were deadly seamers. It just levelled their seam advantage because it made a pretty mediocre indian seam attack deadly.

I think that Newlands pitch was just a mistake full stop by a shit curator because it was actually dangerous but yes it absolutely applies everywhere: before the couple of series wins here, India’s best win IMO in Australia was a team friendly WACA pitch in the Monkeygate series.

India had other wins in SA, one of the Sri Lanka wins in SA was the same (not so much the freak Perera test).

 

[Cleavy]

Windies need 251 to win

 

[PhatBoy]

How's Warrican's effort with bat and ball! Love these cameos by obscure West Indian players only to never see them again.

JW’s been in and around the scene for a while, I know what you mean in that we have a lot of these guys that turn up and play a great game and they never do it again, but he will be on the scene for the foreseeable future; he’s a proven first class player and the selectors love him.

The conditions obviously helped but he did genuinely bowl really smart, bowled straight and varied his pace a lot.


Please just bat smart, and bat positive. Give ourselves a chance.

 

[Bedi]

JW’s been in and around the scene for a while, I know what you mean in that we have a lot of these guys that turn up and play a great game and they never do it again, but he will be on the scene for the foreseeable future; he’s a proven first class player and the selectors love him.

The conditions obviously helped but he did genuinely bowl really smart, bowled straight and varied his pace a lot.


Please just bat smart, and bat positive. Give ourselves a chance.

Along with those crucial runs he made, it's the craziest individual performance for the Windies I've seen since Kyle Mayers