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AFL told them too. I mean he signed for us and the afl sent him there.
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I respectfully disagree.
Twist it anyway you like. The words are xenophobic, putting “ I’m”in front changes nothing, it merely tries to hide behind semantics.
In my opinion our leaders were not racist, just trying to control a disgusting and suicidal practice of illegal people smuggling.
Such a brilliant way of controlling the people smugglers hey!
Let's lock up the unfortunate refugees and poor souls that had to resort to those sorts of means to escape tyrannical regimes that were overseeing genocides. Lock up the women and children in soulless detention centres completely isolating them from the world, isolating them from support, isolating them from legal structures where laws and representation didn't exist.
Make no mistake! Our xenophobic leaders rode on the wave of a racist populace fed a contortion of non-truths and outright bullshit to solidify their power and win elections.
You, Sir, are the epitome and proof of that brainwashing.
What is the stats comparison for finals. And grand finals? Ooh that’s right Cripps has never played in one. About the only stat that Cripps would win would be unpenalised throws per game. Cripps is a good player make no mistake but he is apparently playing in the most talented side in the competition at the moment (according to some commentators) and hasn’t been able to drag them into a grand final much less win one. When he has done that then let’s compare him to Dusty
Cripps has played 4 finals in his absolute prime, and has an average player rating of 14.5. This is similar to a player like Dangerfield.
Dusty played 16 finals, including 2 where he was injured or had a shocking preparation and 3 before he fully hit his straps at 25. His average finals player rating is over 18. Dusty has 8 finals with player ratings above Cripps best final. 6 of those are miles above Cripps best final. 2 of those occurred in the 2017 season, when Dusty played a season Cripps would not match in a thousand lifetimes, or another thousand. Nobody we know about has played a better season than Dusty's 2017.
At a cost of approximately $1 billion dollars per year on average in Nauru alone. For less than an average of 400 people held in detention per year since 2012.
That is, about $2.5M per refugee/per year.
We (Australian taxpayers) are currently spending $486M per year even though there are no ZERO refugees held in detention. That's right, about half a billion dollars per year to keep Nauru open as a deterrent only!
It's ****ed.
we've got over populated prisons meaning criminals are escaping conviction for crimes that should see them doing time. why not send them over there?
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Which saves lives.
You want more innocents at the bottom of the Timor strait due to people smugglers exploiting them?
What is the minimum $ value you would pay to stop the people smugglers drowning refugees?
Didn't want to get involved with discussing political issues....but if the reason the hell camps were set up was to save refugee lives, then the hell camps wouldn't exist. Because the former would require you to care more about the refugees than is demonstrated by the latter.
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didn't so much want to jump in either
ideally the camp is empty, but will always need to be there as a deterrent.
a single people smuggler boat sinking can drown hundreds, many of them women and children.
it is absolutely worth the price.
You think the best way to stop mass drownings of asylum seekers is to lock them in hell camps in the Solomon Islands or wherever for indeterminate lengths of years?
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As a “civilised” first world country I’m sure this is not the best we can do for these folks?!
For $1Billion/year, we could fly them all Business Class to wherever they wanted to go, and still have many millions left over.
Since Howard winning an election on Border Security back in 01, and Labor and Gillard being perceived as weak on borders,
In a little bit racist Australia, being tough on borders gets govts elected, The price tag is totally irrelevant. Maybe the higher the better.
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More people overstay their visas, but we demonise people on boats...
Funny world we live in...
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Well having a Visa in itself means you entered the country legally. Arriving on a boat means you entered illegally.
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It was dead set cruel what we did with mandatory detention and those poor campaigners who were stuck in detention indefinitely had their lives ruined. I kind of wish they got released but we went on with a charade that they were still behind bars to act as a deterrent.
Australians hate queue jumpers and coming by boat is a shit option. I have no problem saying if you come illegally you'll never be given a visa. For starters these are the rich campaigners trying to weasel into our country for selfish reasons. They aren't being persecuted in Indonesia. Same shit going on in Europe.
Worst of all we have now filled the country with low skilled fools who culturally don't want to ntegrate (as opposed to previous immigrants).
But both parties want "big Australia" because it's the way to avoid a technical recession, which means automatically losing the next election. So instead of demonising boat people (even though we hate queue jumpers), we should be furious at both political parties who have flooded this country with useless low skilled immigrants who have driven wages down and house prices up.
Not sure why we are discussing this here though.
Australians hate queue jumpers and coming by boat is a shit option. I have no problem saying if you come illegally you'll never be given a visa. For starters these are the rich campaigners trying to weasel into our country for selfish reasons. They aren't being persecuted in Indonesia. Same shit going on in Europe.
Worst of all we have now filled the country with low skilled fools who culturally don't want to ntegrate (as opposed to previous immigrants).
But both parties want "big Australia" because it's the way to avoid a technical recession, which means automatically losing the next election. So instead of demonising boat people (even though we hate queue jumpers), we should be furious at both political parties who have flooded this country with useless low skilled immigrants who have driven wages down and house prices up.
Not sure why we are discussing this here though.
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Exactly, fly people in, just as we do, which is great, but as long as the smugglers offer a second viable channel, people will take it and people will drown.
But you know that. You can tolerate it somewhat though, pretend it doesn’t happen?But what’s your threshold? How many people need to drown for you to take action on people smugglers?
Remember we have tried diplomacy, every nation between us and the middle east is passing the parcel.
I understand your POV and it’s very moral etc etc, but we need to face the reality of what is happening
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