Summer Olympic Sports in between Olympics thread.

[Beejay Crow]

Gout 19.84 +2.2. Not legal but still sensational run. WOW!!

 

[mighty_lions]

could the wind just **** off for a bit, wasn't the best start and still unbelievable

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Bloody hell the last few days there have been bugger all winds greater than 2.0m/s in all the 100m and 200m races across all grades and Gout gets 3 out of 4.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I reckon the false starts might have set back Gout 0.02 or 0.03. Hopefully they will publish reaction times.

The media and athletes 10-20m passed the finis line were all watching the big screen the first 100m then turned and watched Gout finish off the race. He is the superstar of the kids and crowd.

Jess Hull running the 5000m after Gout is like the race after the Melbourne Cup.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Knighton ran a 19.84 +0.3 when he was 17 in 2021 at US Olympic trials and then 19.49 next year and didnt improve that time as a 19 year old or since.

 

[mighty_lions]

Has anyone noticed how he walks the heels dont touch the ground

 

[Beejay Crow]

So fast that he's creating his own weather patterns.

could the wind just **** off for a bit, wasn't the best start and still unbelievable

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Haha there is about 500 kids all who want a selfie with Gout and he is obliging them all.

 

[Wallaby]

I reckon the false starts might have set back Gout 0.02 or 0.03. Hopefully they will publish reaction times.

I agree. Watching on TV, I thought he got very good starts in the two false starts, (and Dave Culbert was also biting his nails about it commentary) - I thought 'Channel 7 will NOT be happy about this!!'.

Then at the 3rd attempt, I thought his start was slower than the other runners.

I've watched a few of his other races at Schools level, and seen him absolutely detroy the other kids in the home straight, but I thought 'that's not going to happen here aginst grown men' - and it still did. His top speed is amazing.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Great finish to women's 5000m, Griffiths, Davies and Hall throwing everything at Jess Hull but she is so strong.and holds them all off.

What is great to see compared to 10, 15, 20 years ago, everyone is turning up for nationals, rather than saying nah my Euro season is more important.

Hull flew in from US, only had 3 days to refresh and gives it her all to hold off big challenges and win 2 national titles.

 

[MisterB]

I think his key is that he holds his top speed for so much longer than his competition.

He does appear to have a very short contact with the ground period. Which aids his bounding and keeping that wonderful stride length

 

[MisterB]

Hull's mechanics also looked so much better than anyone else in that 5000m final. Looks like that final sprint work is really paying off with her holding her form very well.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I think his key is that he holds his top speed for so much longer than his competition.

He does appear to have a very short contact with the ground period. Which aids his bounding and keeping that wonderful stride length

The Total Runnings guy and a couple of other track events video makers on You Tube always bang on about getring 10m splits for him to compare him to adult sprinters The best they have done is get the 100m split and compare that to Paris 200m final and he sits in the middle of that field.

 

[AdelaideGT]

What an amazing Nationals this has been. Possibly the best ever.

If yesterday was 'Super Saturday', today was 'Special Sunday'.

Bet Bruce was pissed to have to miss it.

 

[Cmarsh]

The Total Runnings guy and a couple of other track events video makers on You Tube always bang on about getring 10m splits for him to compare him to adult sprinters The best they have done is get the 100m split and compare that to Paris 200m final and he sits in the middle of that field.

A performance like that today gets him into an Olympic 200m final. Possibly not far off the medals.

 

[AdelaideGT]

100m sprinter Eddie Nketia - who grew up in Canberra - transferred his allegiance to NZL (where he was born) a few years back.

Then he got burned by NZL's tougher selection policies and quit the sport to try his hand at NFL football.

That didn't work out too well and so he joined up with University of South California to have a go at athletics again. He has been in very good form so far this year and today ran a windy 9.9.

He has apparently requested a transfer back to Australia and seems keen to be part of our potential medal-winning relay team at future international meets.

If approved by World Athletics, he could potentially represent Australia from July this year.

 

[Cmarsh]

Oh wow. Martens has broken the 400 free WR, a 16 yo supersuit record.

Lukas Märtens Throws Down 3:39.96 WORLD RECORD In 400 Free, Breaking 2009 Super-Suited Mark

The men’s 400 freestyle world record has been broken, with Lukas Märtens clocking 3:39.96 to dip under Paul Biedermann’s longstanding 2009 mark of 3:40.07.

swimswam.com

 

[AdelaideGT]

a 16 yo supersuit record

It should really have said 'a 23 year old record'.

The super-suit records should have been wiped when the super-suits were banned..

 

[Cmarsh]

It should really have said 'a 23 year old record'.

The super-suit records should have been wiped when the super-suits were banned..

Yeah Thorpe had that record previous to the 2009 World championship where FINA were deeply critcised for allowing supersuits and subsequent world records to stand.

 

[AdelaideGT]

Matt Denny breaks the WR for the discus with 74.78m.

But... gets pipped by WR-holder Alekna who sets a new WR of 75.56m.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

On the Track and Field Bulletin board - the Bible of Athletics - El Toro about 10.5 years ago did the calculation for Jack Hale who ran a 10.13 as a teenager in a +3.4m/s wind and said it was the equivalent to 10.29 in a 0.0 wind reading.

Whilst the formula is a bit more complicated than the following, in simple terms you can take the wind reading as a whole number ie +2.2 becomes 22, divide it by 100 ie 0.22, divide that by 1.5, ie 0.146, add that off the recorded time of 19.84 and you get 19.99 for a 0.0 wind reading.

Using the process to reduce a 2.2 wind down to a 2.0 reading, a 0.2 difference becomes 2, divided by 100 = 0.02, and divided by 1.5 = 0.013. Add that to 19.84 and it becomes 19.85.

The stronger the wind, ie around 3.5 to 5.0, the division factor is closer to 2 than 1.5. If I'm lazy I just use 2 for all calculations.

 

[GreyCrow]

This guy says similar

From 1.46

 

[AdelaideGT]

El Toro

I miss him a lot

 

[AdelaideGT]

in simple terms you can take the wind reading as a whole number ie +2.2 becomes 22, divide it by 100 ie 0.22, divide that by 1.5

I'm so glad there are websites that can do the maths for you..

Wind Calculator

 

[Cmarsh]

Matt Denny breaks the WR for the discus with 74.78m.

But... gets pipped by WR-holder Alekna who sets a new WR of 75.56m.

Not without controversy...

Day of monster discus throws condemned as 'weather doping'

Performance-enhancing drugs have long been the scourge of athletics field events but now some observers are claiming "weather doping" was behind a slew of discus records at a meeting in the United States on Sunday.Lithuania's Mykolas Alekna, the 2024 Olympic silver medallist, smashed his own...

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