Play Nice North Melbourne - 2018 and beyond

[Great8]

They'd have higher average vic attendances if they played fewer games in Melbourne. Tv numbers would be greater too - which is where the real money is.
When you think about it, the sooner Collingwood are relocated the better.

LOL
Eddie could buy the whole NMFC with the loose change in his cars ashtray

 

[perplexed]

LOL
Eddie could buy the whole NMFC with the loose change in his cars ashtray

He could better use that money to buy the presidency of their Collingwood's new Melbourne based supporters group.

 

[WA ROO]

Brad Scott may be the coach for it, he may not be, at the very least he has proven to not be the culture destroying club-killer that guys like Mark Neeld, Mick Malthouse, James Hird and Michael Voss were.

I would say he is worse
Scott's softness has infected the club from the top down
The clubs that had the coaches you posted about got rid of them.As we saw this year Scott has a job for life.
He has surrounded himself with a weak pathetic coaching panel that seems to be able to coach any skill,flair,fitness and aggression out of the playing group

It will take a decade to fix the damage done,if the club grows a pair to get rid of B Scott his entire coaching staff and match day panel

 

[Kaiser Powser]

Fortunately for them the previous 'expansions' have not gone well, so the AFL may not be in the mood for another right now.
If the AFL get the urge to get a team into Tassy, it would be a very poor time for North to have a prolonged stint at the bottom of the ladder. I think this has been an issue for North for some time and they have recruited to ensure that they do not bottom out, however, it has had the flow on effect that they to not improve enough to really contend.

2-3 bad years and they could be under serious pressure.

 

[WA ROO]

Biggest war chest in the afl

Front loading contracts, next couple of years we can outbid anyone for anyone

Bid what you want
Players are signing elsewhere for less

 

[LB#16]

There is no way that North relocate. We have been innovators for many years, first team to have a major sponsor, pioneers of Friday night footy, Good Friday game etc, etc
We may be a small club in terms of numbers, however we’re a MELBOURNE BASED CLUB HERE TO STAY.
We’re a proud club as well, so those morons expecting (more like hoping) for us to stay down for ages, good luck with that.


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Fitzroy were a historic foundation club who were very successful in the early part of the 20th century and that did not prevent their eventual fate. I realise North are much stronger but getting a sponsor first and suggesting friday night games isn't a solid reason to stay in Melbourne.

I also don't think many want North to stay down the bottom of the ladder, nor to relocate because of hate. If North can gain a bigger fan base in Melbourne then most AFL fans would welcome that. A lot of people feel as though representing a region of 500,000 people would be a fine way to grow the club. It seems unlikely that North will ever grow into a sizeable club in Melbourne as there is 8 other clubs there already so going to Tassie and having a region of passionate footy fans get behind your club might be a better way to grow the size of the footy club.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

LOL
Eddie could buy the whole NMFC with the loose change in his cars ashtray

Please

Let him finish wrecking Collingwood first

 

[wazza03]

Fitzroy were a historic foundation club who were very successful in the early part of the 20th century and that did not prevent their eventual fate. I realise North are much stronger but getting a sponsor first and suggesting friday night games isn't a solid reason to stay in Melbourne.

I also don't think many want North to stay down the bottom of the ladder, nor to relocate because of hate. If North can gain a bigger fan base in Melbourne then most AFL fans would welcome that. A lot of people feel as though representing a region of 500,000 people would be a fine way to grow the club. It seems unlikely that North will ever grow into a sizeable club in Melbourne as there is 8 other clubs there already so going to Tassie and having a region of passionate footy fans get behind your club might be a better way to grow the size of the footy club.

How can going to Tassie grow the club?
Really doubt that you know what you are talking about.
We have over 40,000 members even on the back of a poor year on field and have literally no debt.
We have achieved this without the aid of pokies revenue.
Maybe a club like St Kilda who have over $6M debt level should be the club in this conversation, not mine.


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[mick500]

Mate, we'll just churn out another interstate club if the going gets tough.

Do you understand that by being a Crows supporter you are unwittingly strengthening the Victorian hold on football?

I’m fully aware of it lol. Why do you think I said we need to cull about 4 Victorian clubs that are rent financially viable? Lol. What are you misunderstanding? You are just reiterating what I am saying. And telling it to me like you’re telling me?? I know. I said it.

 

[Snake_Baker]

I’m fully aware of it lol. Why do you think I said we need to cull about 4 Victorian clubs that are rent financially viable? Lol. What are you misunderstanding? You are just reiterating what I am saying. And telling it to me like you’re telling me?? I know. I said it.

Good luck getting that to work.

I'll bookmark this post and revisit it in 50 years.

 

[mick500]

Good luck getting that to work.

I'll bookmark this post and revisit it in 50 years

I never said it would happen. The afl are to scared to do what a ruthless business looking to expand would do. Get rid of the dead wood.

QUOTE that as well. Never said it would happen.

 

[Yianni]

They seriously have to go to tassie imo, makes sense, they'll get a bunch of new supporters and will be strongly backed in tassie, will become a stronger club if they relocate/merge to tassie imo.

Ah, we seriously don't imo, doesn't make sense, Tassie fans won't support a relocated team, will become not the same team if we relocate/merge to tassie imo.

Does that make sense? Just changed all of your assertions, to show just how fatuous your imo's are.

imo

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Now debt free.


http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...tter-etihad-stadium-deal-20171023-gz6o8p.html

St Kilda, Western Bulldogs and North Melbourne want better Etihad Stadium deal

• Caroline Wilson

Concerned club presidents Peter Gordon, Ben Buckley and Peter Summers could approach the AFL Commission next month to lobby for a better deal for their clubs at Etihad Stadium.

Disappointed at the refusal from head office to compensate the Western Bulldogs, North Melbourne and St Kilda for years of financial inequity dealt to the three co-tenants, the three club bosses who spoke last week are planning a further meeting to push their cause and review whether to take the step of directly intervening in AFL talks.


And Fairfax Media understands the Victorian government, still considering the AFL's plans for a $300 million redevelopment of the stadium and the Docklands precinct, is closely watching the protracted negotiations with the clubs for a better deal as it moves towards an election year.

The Daniel Andrews government is looking at a widespread funding package of stadium revamps in key sports in next year's pre-election state budget but is concerned over how the financially struggling Etihad Stadium clubs will benefit from the new deal. The AFL is close to a deal with anchor tenant Essendon after a protracted year of negotiations but is some way from achieving agreements with the Bulldogs, Kangaroos and Saints.

North Melbourne are one of the clubs taking on the AFL over the deal with Etihad Stadium. Photo: Pat Scala

Hailed as a game-changer for the financially struggling tenant clubs when the AFL purchased the stadium for an estimated $200 million more than a year ago, those clubs fear that undertaking looks far removed from reality.

However AFL chief Gillon McLachlan played down those concerns, confident the clubs would ultimately be satisfied with their new deal. "We'll get there," McLachlan said of the lengthy negotiations. "They [the clubs] will be fine."


McLachlan undertook when the stadium, which the AFL conceded in the government revamp proposal had become "run down", was purchased last October that: "Owning Etihad Stadium enables the AFL to continue to strengthen the financial health of several of our Victorian clubs ...".

However, while all Etihad clubs looked to be more than $1 million better off each year with soon-to-be-reached new stadium contracts, the AFL has threatened to reduce their annual financial subsidies and has told the clubs it will not financially address heavy losses incurred in the past.

Western Bulldogs chairman Peter Gordon has said the three clubs deserved that compensation for the significant monetary disadvantages forced upon them for the first 15 years of the Docklands deal. That view is strongly backed by St Kilda.

The Saints view the historic settlement as part of the overall negotiation of the new Etihad contract. "Everyone including the AFL recognises the previous deal was inequitable to three clubs in particular," said Gordon. "To some extent, this was addressed, at least from 2014, in competitive balance funding formulae. As a matter of fairness, addressing the other years of the inequitable arrangements ought to be considered for the three clubs."

North Melbourne chief Carl Dilena three days ago expressed his disappointment over the AFL's move to strip club funding from central equalisation revenue for the three Etihad co-tenants as part of the new deal.

Dilena likened the AFL's tactic to "giving with one hand and taking away with the other." St Kilda chairman Summers confirmed he was attempting to schedule a meeting with the other presidents before next month.

The Saints' debt of more than $6 million is the largest of the Victorian clubs; the Bulldogs having significantly reduced their debt to less than $2 million with the Kangaroos now debt free. St Kilda deputy CEO Ameet Bains, who had been part of that club's team negotiating with the AFL, will take over as Bulldogs chief executive in December.

 

[Snake_Baker]

I never said it would happen. The afl are to scared to do what a ruthless business looking to expand would do. Get rid of the dead wood.

QUOTE that as well. Never said it would happen.

AFL is not a business. It's a sport.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Now debt free.


http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...tter-etihad-stadium-deal-20171023-gz6o8p.html

St Kilda, Western Bulldogs and North Melbourne want better Etihad Stadium deal

• Caroline Wilson

Concerned club presidents Peter Gordon, Ben Buckley and Peter Summers could approach the AFL Commission next month to lobby for a better deal for their clubs at Etihad Stadium.

Disappointed at the refusal from head office to compensate the Western Bulldogs, North Melbourne and St Kilda for years of financial inequity dealt to the three co-tenants, the three club bosses who spoke last week are planning a further meeting to push their cause and review whether to take the step of directly intervening in AFL talks.


And Fairfax Media understands the Victorian government, still considering the AFL's plans for a $300 million redevelopment of the stadium and the Docklands precinct, is closely watching the protracted negotiations with the clubs for a better deal as it moves towards an election year.

The Daniel Andrews government is looking at a widespread funding package of stadium revamps in key sports in next year's pre-election state budget but is concerned over how the financially struggling Etihad Stadium clubs will benefit from the new deal. The AFL is close to a deal with anchor tenant Essendon after a protracted year of negotiations but is some way from achieving agreements with the Bulldogs, Kangaroos and Saints.

North Melbourne are one of the clubs taking on the AFL over the deal with Etihad Stadium. Photo: Pat Scala

Hailed as a game-changer for the financially struggling tenant clubs when the AFL purchased the stadium for an estimated $200 million more than a year ago, those clubs fear that undertaking looks far removed from reality.

However AFL chief Gillon McLachlan played down those concerns, confident the clubs would ultimately be satisfied with their new deal. "We'll get there," McLachlan said of the lengthy negotiations. "They [the clubs] will be fine."


McLachlan undertook when the stadium, which the AFL conceded in the government revamp proposal had become "run down", was purchased last October that: "Owning Etihad Stadium enables the AFL to continue to strengthen the financial health of several of our Victorian clubs ...".

However, while all Etihad clubs looked to be more than $1 million better off each year with soon-to-be-reached new stadium contracts, the AFL has threatened to reduce their annual financial subsidies and has told the clubs it will not financially address heavy losses incurred in the past.

Western Bulldogs chairman Peter Gordon has said the three clubs deserved that compensation for the significant monetary disadvantages forced upon them for the first 15 years of the Docklands deal. That view is strongly backed by St Kilda.

The Saints view the historic settlement as part of the overall negotiation of the new Etihad contract. "Everyone including the AFL recognises the previous deal was inequitable to three clubs in particular," said Gordon. "To some extent, this was addressed, at least from 2014, in competitive balance funding formulae. As a matter of fairness, addressing the other years of the inequitable arrangements ought to be considered for the three clubs."

North Melbourne chief Carl Dilena three days ago expressed his disappointment over the AFL's move to strip club funding from central equalisation revenue for the three Etihad co-tenants as part of the new deal.

Dilena likened the AFL's tactic to "giving with one hand and taking away with the other." St Kilda chairman Summers confirmed he was attempting to schedule a meeting with the other presidents before next month.

The Saints' debt of more than $6 million is the largest of the Victorian clubs; the Bulldogs having significantly reduced their debt to less than $2 million with the Kangaroos now debt free. St Kilda deputy CEO Ameet Bains, who had been part of that club's team negotiating with the AFL, will take over as Bulldogs chief executive in December.

About time. These clubs are sicking of footing the bill for the other clubs.

 

[Great8]

We have the AFL eating out of the palm of our hand. They need us at Etihad desperately so I’d expect a far better deal for us than the other tenants

 

[Mcarcherey]

And will make $3-4m this year and that includes paying off a huge chunk of Tulla

And is that likely to happen this year and any time into the future? No. Essendon are infinitely more profitable. You are nitpicking one moment where North made finals and Essendon had all their players suspended, not to mention paying for the state of the art facilities, a fee North are not paying. How convenient that you ignore every other season and focus on the lone one that suits your argument. Open your eyes.

nitpicking a year you had you had horrendous $10m loss, yea i am, because it's self inflicted ffs, every other team gets sh!t for their past convictions, so should you.

christ almighty i only used essendon* to prove a point, can you f*** off now please. melbourne saints and dogs have, proportionally, way less members in recent years, saints and dogs have huge debt, north doesn't - north is fine and i used essendon* as an example. i don't care about your club, it's not about them you narcissistic tossers.

one last thing, deprecation and amortisation of your precious facilities isn't even accounted for in your profit! essendon can have all the money in the world, but at least i know i'll always have more than you two mouth breathing dopes.

 

[Snake_Baker]

We have the AFL eating out of the palm of our hand. They need us at Etihad desperately so I’d expect a far better deal for us than the other tenants

Really?

Where does it state that?

 

[LB#16]

nitpicking a year you had you had horrendous $10m loss, yea i am, because it's self inflicted ffs, every other team gets sh!t for their past convictions, so should you.

christ almighty i only used essendon* to prove a point, can you f*** off now please. melbourne saints and dogs have, proportionally, way less members in recent years, saints and dogs have huge debt, north doesn't - north is fine and i used essendon* as an example. i don't care about your club, it's not about them you narcissistic tossers.

one last thing, deprecation and amortisation of your precious facilities isn't even accounted for in your profit! essendon can have all the money in the world, but at least i know i'll always have more than you two mouth breathing dopes.

The conversation was not about whether North or Essendon were a better club, it was about North Melbourne's profitability. Are you capable of having an adult conversation, you child?

 

[mick500]

AFL is not a business. It's a sport.

It became a business a long time ago. What do you think all the TV rights, contracts, agents, commentators do it for? It's the $$$.

It's not a business. It's big business.

 

[Great8]

Really?

Where does it state that?

Doesn’t state it anywhere in that article but the club has been in negotiations for most of the season. We are pushing for more games at the MCG and the AFL can’t afford to lose their main income earner and major tenant from Etihad. I’m sure the club will be using that as leverage to get a better deal. Personally I’d rather move back to the MCG full time as I think Etihad will stifle our memberships in the coming years

 

[Snake_Baker]

Doesn’t state it anywhere

Correct

 

[Mcarcherey]

The conversation was not about whether North or Essendon were a better club, it was about North Melbourne's profitability. Are you capable of having an adult conversation, you child?

yea at least this child has a basic understanding of how to read financial reports, perhaps not talk about profitability if you have no clue about how it works.

 

[Great8]

Correct

1 article from Caro.
There would be plenty going on behind the scenes and even in that article it says a deal with us is close. It’s in the AFL’s best interests to look after their key tenants

 

[LB#16]

yea at least this child has a basic understanding of how to read financial reports, perhaps not talk about profitability if you have no clue about how it works.

Mate, you quoted one small sample size of a single year and acted as if that equates to overall profitability. Get a clue.