Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Football Thread XVII

[jannissary]

remarkably funny game. how embarrassing for carlton

 

[raskolnikov]

The bad thing for Carlton is that they needed a cameo from Kemp to get that close. They're not going to be able to rely on that every week.

 

[tha Freak]

For a moment I was thinking that a Blues win would be good for the Comp and my Blues friends. But then I came to my senses and realised it’s Carlton and they are just scum. Hahahaha

 

[BratPack]

sc*mbaggers 0-3

Life is good to me sometimes.

I was feeling flat all day, like I was entering a down turn in my mental health. Then I go read the Carlton board and I feel happy again

 

[TheBrightSide]

While it always lifts the spirits to see Carlton lose, hopefully they win enough games to keep Voss in the job.

 

[Beerfish]

This weekend just keeps getting better man.

 

[eth-dog]

Suck shit Carlton

 

[fairbump_playon]

Carlton thread

While there are a lot of rants, “I feel sick.. WTF is going on” really captures it

Season over Carlton, time to rebuild

 

[JayJ20]

While it always lifts the spirits to see Carlton lose, hopefully they win enough games to keep Voss in the job.

And also so that Hawthorn don't get a top 5 pick. That's their only job. But that can wait towards the end of the year when finals are gone.

 

[ant555]

Would seem that Voss may have some aura about him as a legend of the game and the way he played but may be lacking the ability to sell the message as head coach. I do not really rate their list. They have a couple of genuine stars and a couple of good A grade players but I think it falls away quickly and they have too many injury prone blokes. Their team defense is worse than ours at times and the only reason they where 4 goals up early was the Dogs poor skill level , many under little pressure.

 

[ghostdog]

Didn't watch the game, but I just read that the Blues fell away in the second half, and also only used 63/75 rotations. That's alarming from a professional coaching group.

 

[Vindicater]

They fall away quick in terms of fitness and talent.

Hawks about to get a top five pick in a draft just before the Tassie team comes in...

 

[JayJ20]

The duality of our biggest rivals. One is a trusted companion in shitness and the other can't farking stay down.

 

[ghostdog]

The duality of our biggest rivals. One is a trusted companion in shitness and the other can't farking stay down.

Wow. And we are one of their trusted companions in shitness and always farking stay down. This triumvirate actually deserves a diagram.

 

[Blind Turn]

The duality of our biggest rivals. One is a trusted companion in shitness and the other can't farking stay down.

While the two shit teams hold on to the truthful yet regressive fact that we still have more premierships.

 

[Wahooti Fandango]

 

[JayJ20]

Wow. And we are one of their trusted companions in shitness and always farking stay down. This triumvirate actually deserves a diagram.

Something like this:

 

[ghostdog]

While the two shit teams hold on to the truthful yet regressive fact that we still have more premierships.

That is amazing!

 

[ghostdog]

Something like this:

Gold!

 

[Mercurial89]

Would seem that Voss may have some aura about him as a legend of the game and the way he played but may be lacking the ability to sell the message as head coach. I do not really rate their list. They have a couple of genuine stars and a couple of good A grade players but I think it falls away quickly and they have too many injury prone blokes. Their team defense is worse than ours at times and the only reason they where 4 goals up early was the Dogs poor skill level , many under little pressure.

They actually looked quite good from a pressure and defence point of view in the first half, dogs could not move the ball through them.

But they just run out of tickets.
They had a wretched injury run last year and there is seemingly an issue with their coaching departments relationship with the fitness guys but they are wasting the small window they had because of their elite top liners.
They aren't as bad as 0-3 suggests but they should be way better given their profile.

 

[Yoda_]

Would seem that Voss may have some aura about him as a legend of the game and the way he played but may be lacking the ability to sell the message as head coach. I do not really rate their list. They have a couple of genuine stars and a couple of good A grade players but I think it falls away quickly and they have too many injury prone blokes. Their team defense is worse than ours at times and the only reason they where 4 goals up early was the Dogs poor skill level , many under little pressure.

have been telling the muppets that not only are the bottom 4 - 6 (players 18 - 25 on the list) are shit, but they lack genuine match winners. Guys who can do what Bobby Hill did in that grand final, what Nick Davis did for Sydney in that prelim final etx.

They rely on Jesse Motlop, De Koning, Curnow and that's about it. Cripps looks beat up

 

[ghostdog]

have been telling the muppets that not only are the bottom 4 - 6 (players 18 - 25 on the list) are shit, but they lack genuine match winners. Guys who can do what Bobby Hill did in that grand final, what Nick Davis did for Sydney in that prelim final etx.

They rely on Jesse Motlop, De Koning, Curnow and that's about it. Cripps looks beat up

They'd be done without Weitering.

 

[Mercurial89]

have been telling the muppets that not only are the bottom 4 - 6 (players 18 - 25 on the list) are shit, but they lack genuine match winners. Guys who can do what Bobby Hill did in that grand final, what Nick Davis did for Sydney in that prelim final etx.

They rely on Jesse Motlop, De Koning, Curnow and that's about it. Cripps looks beat up

What are you talking about lacking match winners?

They have probably the best spine in the league and a star match winner in every area of the ground (curnow, weitering, Cripps, TDK throw in walsh/McKay as your next tier down).
Their top liners keep them in games, their bottom tier role players are actually ok.
It's the mid tier who's form fluctuates horrendously not even week to week but quarter to quarter.

Their top form beats most in the comp, the issue is consistency, that mid tier group being too inconsistent and seemingly at the moment a fitness issue.
There's a few in the team who have rather glaring weaknesses too. Saad having no opposite foot and a propensity to just bomb in doesn't help their forwards.
Similar to Wright for us, amazing kick at goal, but his weaknesses offset that obvious strength.
Maybe a better way of putting it is their one dimensional players are their undoing when those weaknesses offset their strengths

 

[ant555]

What are you talking about lacking match winners?

They have probably the best spine in the league and a star match winner in every area of the ground (curnow, weitering, Cripps, TDK throw in walsh/McKay as your next tier down).
Their top liners keep them in games, their bottom tier role players are actually ok.
It's the mid tier who's form fluctuates horrendously not even week to week but quarter to quarter.

Their top form beats most in the comp, the issue is consistency, that mid tier group being too inconsistent and seemingly at the moment a fitness issue.

And they suck at team defence.

 

[Yoda_]

What are you talking about lacking match winners?

They have probably the best spine in the league and a star match winner in every area of the ground (curnow, weitering, Cripps, TDK throw in walsh/McKay as your next tier down).
Their top liners keep them in games, their bottom tier role players are actually ok.
It's the mid tier who's form fluctuates horrendously not even week to week but quarter to quarter.

Their top form beats most in the comp, the issue is consistency, that mid tier group being too inconsistent and seemingly at the moment a fitness issue.
There's a few in the team who have rather glaring weaknesses too. Saad having no opposite foot and a propensity to just bomb in doesn't help their forwards.
Similar to Wright for us, amazing kick at goal, but his weaknesses offset that obvious strength.
Maybe a better way of putting it is their one dimensional players are their undoing when those weaknesses offset their strengths

Im not talking about guys who you can rely on to perform week in, week out. I am talking about guys who can take a match away from the opposition.

I dont see McKay as that, I don't see Weitering as that, even Cripps looks banged up as hell. I admitted that Curnow could do some damage,


The bottom 6 in the best 22 are crap and you hit nail on the head for those c & d graders as well. They are far too inconsistent to have Carlton as a serious finals contender. They NEED the A graders to perform to win, they need those b - c graders to perform above expectation to win. They are to inconsistent to back each week