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I don't understand why Illinois is bothering with this. Like New York and Los Angeles, the NFL needs Chicago more than Chicago needs the NFL. What will they do, move the team to some much smaller city like St Louis? The Bears haven't even given the city a Super Bowl in nearly 40 years.
 

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I don't understand why Illinois is bothering with this. Like New York and Los Angeles, the NFL needs Chicago more than Chicago needs the NFL. What will they do, move the team to some much smaller city like St Louis? The Bears haven't even given the city a Super Bowl in nearly 40 years.

Unless they go dom they will never get a SB.
 
The stadiums in Detroit and Minny have both only hosted one SB each. A billion dollars in government funding for one SB seems like a poor return.

It's more winter outdoor conditions and which city the NFL stakeholders prefer to spend the SB fortnight.

It's why we see so many games in Miami and New Orleans.

Minnie and Detroit get their SBs as part of a promise incorporated into the financing deal.
 
Chicago should really have two teams. Next biggest city after NY and LA
I have thought Chicago could easily accommodate two NBA teams. Has it been long enough since the 90s that another team could get oxygen alongside the Bulls? Won't happen though, they have three candidates for two potential expansion spots already.
 
Bears fans deserve another option.
I know one that would probably jump ship.
Then I’d have to stop giving GG and that Karen Parker fan grief for being turncoats 😭🤣

caveat until or unless the McCaskeys sell
 
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Looking purely from a financial sense rather than a fan sense, I think Haslam would be better off moving the team. And I don't mean to the suburbs, I mean out of Ohio altogether. Cleveland only has 2 million people in its metro area, is shrinking, is nothing special economically and has a state income tax. Somewhere like Austin or San Antonio would have a bigger population and none of the other issues.

But, Cleveland's loyal fans deserve a team, and ripping it away for a second time would be really cruel.
 
Looking purely from a financial sense rather than a fan sense, I think Haslam would be better off moving the team. And I don't mean to the suburbs, I mean out of Ohio altogether. Cleveland only has 2 million people in its metro area, is shrinking, is nothing special economically and has a state income tax. Somewhere like Austin or San Antonio would have a bigger population and none of the other issues.

But, Cleveland's loyal fans deserve a team, and ripping it away for a second time would be really cruel.
If market size was all that mattered then Green Bay shouldn't have a team either, but you can't/shouldn't uproot tradition/history just to pander to dollars.

Problem with the league is the divisions, makes it very hard to add even just a new expansion team or two because then you "need" to add 8 in one go to ensure divisions are even.

If they did away with divisions and just had conferences, then you could slowly add one expansion city at a time.....St Louis, San Diego, San Antonio, Chicago-2
 

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If market size was all that mattered then Green Bay shouldn't have a team either, but you can't/shouldn't uproot tradition/history just to pander to dollars.
The Packers are owned by the city, right? They're hardly likely to move the team. Anyway, every franchise that has moved had history and tradition uprooted. Yet the league considers it fine every time and signs off on it if they pay the relocation fee. Oakland had history and tradition and the Raiders spat on them, twice.

Problem with the league is the divisions, makes it very hard to add even just a new expansion team or two because then you "need" to add 8 in one go to ensure divisions are even.
They didn't always have four divisions of four though. There used to be three divisions per conference. If they went back to that, they would only need to add four teams to make them even. (4x4x2=32 to 6x3x2=36)

If they did away with divisions and just had conferences, then you could slowly add one expansion city at a time.....St Louis, San Diego, San Antonio, Chicago-2
That's true. But I doubt the NFL will expand again within the US. I think eventually they'll work out which four cities in Europe are the best expansion choices and put teams there.
 

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