Mega Thread New Stadium

[WCErevival]

I would like to go back to Melbourne at some stage to see this so called night life. When I last went there, everything was still open but dead as. Some of the staff were bored out of their brains.

 

[BartBart]

Perth arena looks terrible atm. I hope its not staying like that.

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Most of the final cladding is not on yet (except for the one Element facing directly towards Wellington Street). The silver and coloured aluminium will be covered.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Don't bother Bart. There is only so many times I'll allow you to explain that fact.

 

[DivideandMultiply]

Who are these degenerates sitting in cafes at 2am? Do they work? Geez.

Some people can work, study and still have a life (especially on weekends).

 

[DivideandMultiply]

We can only hope.

Agreed.

 

[gurncentral]

Some people can work, study and still have a life (especially on weekends).

Not me. And if I can't, nobody should be allowed to.

 

[Lyyynnnchy]

Why would you stay at a cafe until 2am only to have to wake up at 6am for work the next morning?

 

[88mph]

Why would you stay at a cafe until 2am only to have to wake up at 6am for work the next morning?

1. Peer pressure

 

[Underdog]

exhibit a : lygon street melbourne

cafes open till 2am

full till then.

perth dies after 9pm.

Full? Rubbish.

I've been there several times on weekend footy trips and you can walk in to any of them and find a table easily.

They may be busy and full on occasion but it's not the norm. If it was, you wouldn't need the spruikers outside EVERY restaurant.

 

[Underdog]

Why would you stay at a cafe until 2am only to have to wake up at 6am for work the next morning?

Presumably not everyone works 0900-1700...

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Well I usually work at 0600-1500 so even on weekends 2300-2400 is generally late enough. Any later and Monday doesn't work well for me.

 

[Probitas_]

I thought this thread was about a new stadium, not who's balls were bigger based on where they live...

 

[flyinghi64]

I thought this thread was about a new stadium, not who's balls were bigger based on where they live...

Or when and where they drink coffee or what time they start work....
Oh BTW I want new stadium that is big and comfortable and like Burswood location.

 

[WaltzingMatera]

One of the golf instructors at Burswood said that the course is closing down in one year.

 

[larrikin]

One of the golf instructors at Burswood said that the course is closing down in one year.

Progress...

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Progress...

Design workshops are going on driven by populas on at the moment to define the exact scope of works.

Then I guess a final design will be picked ready for tender.

 

[Evo47]

Design workshops are going on driven by populas on at the moment to define the exact scope of works.

Then I guess a final design will be picked ready for tender.

Oh the tender process, lets hope the state government learns from the whole Perth Arena debacle... Embarrassing!

 

[Ted38]

Oh the tender process, lets hope the state government learns from the whole Perth Arena debacle... Embarrassing!

If we can believe the story in todays West there could be some additional cost to original estimate before they even start. Still we have a fairly good history of cost over runs on buildings in Perth.

 

[Galileo9]

i think thats a world wide thing. projects are never under budget. there are so many factors eg. unknowns, scope change. its not just a matter of it cost X millions then and now Y millions and therefore its not the same and therefore people are incompetant.

most people dont realise its very hard to get an estimate this early on. In order to get a +/- 30% (never -30%) etimate you have to have some design work done and even that hasnt happened yet. Most likely, comparisons have been made to another stadium similar size elsewhere 10 years ago, a factor applied and thats it. of course someone does some pretty pictures. thats not actually design. So i dont know why people get upset when its not accurate. its impossible without actually doing a design and even then you can get it to +/- 10%. thats what happens in every industry including mining/ oil and gas. projects in these industries go through these stages aswell. its just not enough to create hysteria

 

[Eastern Rangers]

If we can believe the story in todays West there could be some additional cost to original estimate before they even start. Still we have a fairly good history of cost over runs on buildings in Perth.

They haven't estimated anything yet, the government is using a figure of $700m for a 60,000 seat stadium to be built at Subiaco at 2008 prices, so
We don't have an original estimate because they don't have a finalised design or a scope of works.

I'll use the arena as an example again, the papers quote a completely obscure figure that Multiplex forwarded for their own stadium concept years before the government committed too a different concept.

 

[Evo47]

They haven't estimated anything yet, the government is using a figure of $700m for a 60,000 seat stadium to be built at Subiaco at 2008 prices, so
We don't have an original estimate because they don't have a finalised design or a scope of works.

I'll use the arena as an example again, the papers quote a completely obscure figure that Multiplex forwarded for their own stadium concept years before the government committed too a different concept.

The 700m figure has increased to 1b IF u believe channel tens report on tonight's news...

 

[WCE_phil]

I've always been of the opinion it would cost at least 1 billion to build the stadium.

 

[Admiral Byng]

They haven't estimated anything yet, the government is using a figure of $700m for a 60,000 seat stadium to be built at Subiaco at 2008 prices, so
We don't have an original estimate because they don't have a finalised design or a scope of works.

I'll use the arena as an example again, the papers quote a completely obscure figure that Multiplex forwarded for their own stadium concept years before the government committed too a different concept.

We'll have to wait and see what the scoping study comes up with. IIRC the 2008 stadium had underground parking and moveable seating for rectangular sports. If we drop those two parts, there should be a significant saving in construction costs.

 

[Blue and Gold Blood]

We'll have to wait and see what the scoping study comes up with. IIRC the 2008 stadium had underground parking and moveable seating for rectangular sports. If we drop those two parts, there should be a significant saving in construction costs.

i really hope we dont do the underground carpark thing. We saw the problems Docklands had. It was just poor light. The whole playing surface only have a couple of metres before it was concrete underneath..

 

[larrikin]

We'll have to wait and see what the scoping study comes up with. IIRC the 2008 stadium had underground parking and moveable seating for rectangular sports. If we drop those two parts, there should be a significant saving in construction costs.

But significant increases in other areas, specifically earthworks.

There won't be any change for $1B, especially by the time you factor in Rail etc.