NCAA NCAA Pre-Season Top 10

[Vick<Footy]

Post up your pre-season Top 10 for college ball.

1)Ohio State Buckeyes
2)Texas Longhorns
3)Florida State Seminoles
4)Oklahoma Sooners
5)West Virginia Mountaineers
6)Notre Dame Fighting Irish
7)Georgia Bulldawgs
8)Auburn Tigers
9)USC Trojans
10)Florida Gators

 

[crazy_big_al]

USC so low

 

[Vick<Footy]

USC so low

Low? I think giving them 7 is a gift. They lost both their top two RB's and QB and many lineman.
Look at a 10-3 Georgia team that's only key loss is at QB on a sickly rich QB team and they were placed at #22 on ESPN's pre-season poll.
USC isn't above facts...they are starting an unproven running back and freshmen and sophmores at the lineman position, and a QB that has never thrown a Div. I pass...

 

[Lenny Briscoe]

1. Ohio State
2. Texas
3. USC
4. Florida
5. FSU
6. WVU
7. Notre Dame
8. Michigan
9. Georgia
10. Louisville

 

[Vick<Footy]

1. Ohio State
2. Texas
3. USC
4. Florida
5. FSU
6. WVU
7. Notre Dame
8. Michigan
9. Georgia
10. Louisville

I think that is pretty reasonable, with the exception of a couple things. There is no way I can give USC such high billing based on their losses, and I feel that high of a billing can only be given based on previous years squads and not this years.
Florida is going to be good, but I think Top 5 is a little high. They are still learning a new system under a new coach, who is so distraut with his RB situation that he was quated as saying that he was thinking of running a consistant 5 WR set to avoid playing a RB. :laugh:
I think WVU is probably a top 5 squad, even if I didn't rate them that. I'm probably still bitter over Georgia loss to them in the Sugar Bowl last year.
Finally, Louisville is not, I repeat not a top 10 caliber team. Don't believe the ESPN hype. They love to jump on the bandwagons of these mid-majors. Same thing happened last year with the Boise State Broncos. Pre-season #13, set to upset Georgia at Georgia's home field. They promptly got there asses handed to them by almost 40 points if I remember correctly.
But over all, I think those are really good picks minus Louisville.

 

[Scott MacFlaherty]

Low? I think giving them 7 is a gift. They lost both their top two RB's and QB and many lineman.
Look at a 10-3 Georgia team that's only key loss is at QB on a sickly rich QB team and they were placed at #22 on ESPN's pre-season poll.
USC isn't above facts...they are starting an unproven running back and freshmen and sophmores at the lineman position, and a QB that has never thrown a Div. I pass...

John David Booty has definitely thrown a pass in Div 1 and is the front runner for the starting job. Speaking of having questionable QBs... Joe Thereshinki (sp?)????

I don't see why everyone has Texas so high. The only reason they were that good was Vince Young. Is the loss of him worth only one spot in the rankings?I wouldnt even tip them to win the Big South, Oklahoma look good for that.

 

[Lenny Briscoe]

I think that is pretty reasonable, with the exception of a couple things. There is no way I can give USC such high billing based on their losses, and I feel that high of a billing can only be given based on previous years squads and not this years.
Florida is going to be good, but I think Top 5 is a little high. They are still learning a new system under a new coach, who is so distraut with his RB situation that he was quated as saying that he was thinking of running a consistant 5 WR set to avoid playing a RB. :laugh:
I think WVU is probably a top 5 squad, even if I didn't rate them that. I'm probably still bitter over Georgia loss to them in the Sugar Bowl last year.
Finally, Louisville is not, I repeat not a top 10 caliber team. Don't believe the ESPN hype. They love to jump on the bandwagons of these mid-majors. Same thing happened last year with the Boise State Broncos. Pre-season #13, set to upset Georgia at Georgia's home field. They promptly got there asses handed to them by almost 40 points if I remember correctly.
But over all, I think those are really good picks minus Louisville.

louisville will ge good i reckon, but it all depends on whether Brian Brohm can return to full health. And for what it's worth, Louisville are not a mid-major they are a BCS team now in the same conference as West Virginia.

On looking at my top ten again, i probably should've included Oklahoma, but I'm not convinced about Bomar yet

 

[Vick<Footy]

John David Booty has definitely thrown a pass in Div 1 and is the front runner for the starting job. Speaking of having questionable QBs... Joe Thereshinki (sp?)????

I don't see why everyone has Texas so high. The only reason they were that good was Vince Young. Is the loss of him worth only one spot in the rankings?I wouldnt even tip them to win the Big South, Oklahoma look good for that.

Booty got in trouble and is no longer starting for USC. Joe T will not start for Georgia. They have Blake Barnes, Joe Cox, and Matthew Stafford, all perenial Parade All-Americans. Stafford was rated the #1 most highly recruited QB this past year.

I agree with you about Texas. But given your sentiments, I think it should be recognized that USC has lost more key players that UT and everyone keeps rating USC high.

P.S. It's the Big 12, not the Big South.

 

[Vick<Footy]

louisville will ge good i reckon, but it all depends on whether Brian Brohm can return to full health. And for what it's worth, Louisville are not a mid-major they are a BCS team now in the same conference as West Virginia.

Yes, Louisville is included in a conference that is apart of the BCS now.
However, the only reason they are there is because the Big East lost Miami, Boston College, and Virginia Tech.
And because of those losses, many people argue that the Big East shouldn't even be apart of the BCS anymore.
When Louisville stepped up to the having to consistently play top dogs last year, they got embarrassed all year long.

 

[Lenny Briscoe]

Booty got in trouble and is no longer starting for USC. Joe T will not start for Georgia. They have Blake Barnes, Joe Cox, and Matthew Stafford, all perenial Parade All-Americans. Stafford was rated the #1 most highly recruited QB this past year.

I agree with you about Texas. But given your sentiments, I think it should be recognized that USC has lost more key players that UT and everyone keeps rating USC high.

P.S. It's the Big 12, not the Big South.

regardless of who starts for USC, Booty or Sanchez, they were both #1 rated high school QB's as well in their respected years and they both have at least one years college experience even if it doesn't inclue starting. stafford is a true freshamn and i think it will be amazing if he can star in the SEC.

btw, what trouble did booty get in? he hurt his back, but he had surgery and is back starting. Sanchez was the one who was questioned over a sexual assault.

 

[Lenny Briscoe]

Yes, Louisville is included in a conference that is apart of the BCS now.
However, the only reason they are there is because the Big East lost Miami, Boston College, and Virginia Tech.
And because of those losses, many people argue that the Big East shouldn't even be apart of the BCS anymore.
When Louisville stepped up to the having to consistently play top dogs last year, they got embarrassed all year long.

but using that logic West Virginia, who are also Big East shouldn't be rated highly.

All Louisville needs to do is cause an upset over a big team like WVU over Georgia last year to gain a whole lot of respect and then they'll be mentioned top #5. If they beat Miami, all discussions will change about them.

 

[Vick<Footy]

regardless of who starts for USC, Booty or Sanchez, they were both #1 rated high school QB's as well in their respected years and they both have at least one years college experience even if it doesn't inclue starting. stafford is a true freshamn and i think it will be amazing if he can star in the SEC.

As far as I know, neither booty of sanchez have taken a snap in a game. Stafford is a true freshman, and neither he nor Barnes or Cox have taken a game snap either. Things to consider though. Coach Mark Richt at UGA has coached 2 Heisman QB winners. And Georgia has almost its entire starting O-line. In addition, they may have the best tandum of RB in the entire country. My problem with USC is not necessarily the ability of their two QB's, it's that they lost so much to the NFL.

btw, what trouble did booty get in? he hurt his back, but he had surgery and is back starting. Sanchez was the one who was questioned over a sexual assault.

You are correct sir, I was getting the two mixed up. I remember now because there were alot of "Dirty Sanchez" jokes going around.

 

[Vick<Footy]

but using that logic West Virginia, who are also Big East shouldn't be rated highly.

All Louisville needs to do is cause an upset over a big team like WVU over Georgia last year to gain a whole lot of respect and then they'll be mentioned top #5. If they beat Miami, all discussions will change about them.

WVU has pratically there entire team returning, and they are coming off a big season.
And Louisville beating Miami is a big "if". Hey, if they can do it, more power to them. But the difference between NFL and college ball is that things don't really change. Power houses stay power houses, they may have down years, or a few down years, but they always return to the top. Schools like, Georgia, Tennessee, Auburn, Alabama, Florida, Florida State, Miami, Michigan, Ohio State, USC, Texax, Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Notre Dame have been the elite of college ball for over 100 years. These other schools tend to have a couple of streaky years and then return to mediocraty. College ball is my favorite sport and the one I watch the most closely. I just feel like Louisville had their run a couple of years ago, it allowed them to step up to a tougher division, and now it is gonna be awhile until they are comfortable in that conference. The difference between them and WVU or Pittsburgh or most of the other pretty good teams in the Big East is that they have been in that schedule for a long time and know how to deal with it. Prior to the UL's entrance into the Big East, they could cruise through a season against horrid teams, and get up for one big game against a perrenial power and take them to the edge or occassionally beat them. Now they have to play those games every weekend, and I just don't know if they are ready for that.
Just one man's opinion.

 

[marcuz]

Im picking the trojans to slip and slip big. Its a big call as they replace talent better than most but they have lost so much talent on both sides of the ball that it will take time for the new guys to mesh.

Ohio state also has lost some players, carpenter and hawk will be huge losses but i think they'll cover those guys pretty well. Troy smith will explode thise year IMO.

My boys at south bend will be there abouts, they are the indy colts of college football. Their offense will dominate enough to get them to one of the big bowl games...hopefully the result will differ from the last two years. Quinn will sh*t in the Heisman.

 

[Vick<Footy]

I hate ND almost as much as the Yankees. But they should have a good team. ND's choice to be independent and play a rough schedule is always their akiles heal.
There '06 schedule:
Georgia Tech
Penn State
Michigan
Michigan State
Purdue
Stanford
UCLA
Navy
North Carolina
Air Force
Army
USC

Remember, because they are an independent they must win 10 games to get an automatic bid to the BCS. Which means they can only lose two. Georgia Tech, Penn State, Michigan, M.State, UCLA, and USC are going to be really tough games. Baring they win all the others, I really can't see them only loosing two of those games. And if they get more than three loses, you might as well count out an at large bid either. I think they will lose to Georgia Tech, Michigan, and USC. But they should have a good season.

 

[Scott MacFlaherty]

As far as I know, neither booty of sanchez have taken a snap in a game. Stafford is a true freshman, and neither he nor Barnes or Cox have taken a game snap either. Things to consider though. Coach Mark Richt at UGA has coached 2 Heisman QB winners. And Georgia has almost its entire starting O-line. In addition, they may have the best tandum of RB in the entire country. My problem with USC is not necessarily the ability of their two QB's, it's that they lost so much to the NFL.

OSU basically lost their whole defense, and nearly everyone is picking them #1 based on their ability to reload.

USC lost a lot on offense and people question them. Does this sound anything like 2003. They were starting a largely untested QB and their starting RB was out for the season and had to rely on 2 freshman in the backfield. That seemed to work out pretty well for them didn't it?

On the point of Richt coaching 2 QBs to Heismans, so has Pete Carroll, and a RB.

Booty has definitely taken snaps.

 

[Vick<Footy]

OSU basically lost their whole defense, and nearly everyone is picking them #1 based on their ability to reload.

Agreed. I didn't know who to put there honestly. I don't trust any of the top 5 teams. I want to start my poll at around #4.

USC lost a lot on offense and people question them. Does this sound anything like 2003. They were starting a largely untested QB and their starting RB was out for the season and had to rely on 2 freshman in the backfield. That seemed to work out pretty well for them didn't it?

Any time you start a new QB there are going to be questions. Lienhart was a special guy, and he benefited from his outstanding backfield.

On the point of Richt coaching 2 QBs to Heismans, so has Pete Carroll, and a RB.

So then we can't count their QB situation against them at either school. But what about USC's RB situation?

 

[Lenny Briscoe]

Im picking the trojans to slip and slip big. Its a big call as they replace talent better than most but they have lost so much talent on both sides of the ball that it will take time for the new guys to mesh.

Ohio state also has lost some players, carpenter and hawk will be huge losses but i think they'll cover those guys pretty well. Troy smith will explode thise year IMO.

My boys at south bend will be there abouts, they are the indy colts of college football. Their offense will dominate enough to get them to one of the big bowl games...hopefully the result will differ from the last two years. Quinn will sh*t in the Heisman.

ohio state will be good, but how hard is it to replace your entire back 7. it leaves a massive gap i reckon and troy smith and ted ginn will have to be stellar early on while the D gets up to speed

 

[Lenny Briscoe]

Agreed. I didn't know who to put there honestly. I don't trust any of the top 5 teams. I want to start my poll at around #4.



Any time you start a new QB there are going to be questions. Lienhart was a special guy, and he benefited from his outstanding backfield.



So then we can't count their QB situation against them at either school. But what about USC's RB situation?

Chauncey Washington apparently has been really good at spring practice for USC now he is academically eligible. don't forget about how good usc's receivers are.


dwayne jarrett
steve smith
patrick turner (#1 wr high school last year)
videl hazelton (#1 wr high school this year)

plus apparently usc recruited 2-3 very highly rated rb's this year as well but their names escape me

and booty has definitely played, even though it is only mop-up duty. he did take a couple a early snaps vs ASU last year when leinart copped one in the chin, but he didn't throw a pass then

booty 2005 stats

27/42 327 yrds 3td 2 int

 

[Scott MacFlaherty]

Agreed. I didn't know who to put there honestly. I don't trust any of the top 5 teams. I want to start my poll at around #4.



Any time you start a new QB there are going to be questions. Lienhart was a special guy, and he benefited from his outstanding backfield.



So then we can't count their QB situation against them at either school. But what about USC's RB situation?

I'd be less worried about their RB's than O-Line. Thats where USC's trouble will be I think.

 

[Lenny Briscoe]

1. Ohio State
2. Texas
3. USC
4. Florida
5. FSU
6. WVU
7. Notre Dame
8. Michigan
9. Georgia
10. Louisville

pretty happy with my preason top 10 compared with the fianl coaches poll

1. Florida (63) 13-1 1,575
2. Ohio State 12-1 1,435
3. LSU 11-2 1,418
4. USC 11-2 1,345
5. Wisconsin 12-1 1,328
6. Boise State 13-0 1,275
7. Louisville 12-1 1,270
8. Auburn 11-2 1,119
9. Michigan 11-2 1,092
10. West Virginia 11-2 1,012