MRP / Trib. Mitch Robinson on Duursma

[BF Tiger]

Robinson could be in MRO trouble after this heavy bump

Mitch Robinson may be in MRO trouble after this incident involving Xavier Duursma

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Why would/should Mitch Robinson

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Mitch Robinson

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be in trouble for this? IMHO Duursma ran into him with more force.

And surely Darcy Byrne-Jones

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was the biggest idiot in the whole thing - attacking a man on the ground and coming off second best.

 

[HTPunter]

The way the AFL view it is that Robinson didn't "brace", it's that he did bump. He chose to bump. An injury was received to the head and neck region. It's gonna be a week.

 

[HTPunter]

The onus isn't on the ball winner - hence why if you're bending over picking up the footy, and you get taken high, it's still a free kick. If you stand up and then duck, or pick the ball up and keep running (a classic Dangerfield move) then it's play on.

Not sure I like it but I'd think fairly obvious which way the AFL will go on this.

 

[scoman]

Turns out it was a busted shoulder for Duursma. Might change things?

 

[KissKiss]

Careless, high, high? Would be my guess on how it'll be assessed so probably a few weeks at least

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

It’s very similar to the incident in AFLW where Marinoff and Stack collided and Stack broke her neck.

Marinoff was initially suspended (quite heavily) but then overturned on appeal on the basis that Marinoff was just standing her ground and Stack ran into her.

Here Dursma is the one that instigated contact and did not brace properly for impact. Robinson did. That’s why Dursma injured himself and Robinson didn’t.

 

[Testekill]

I don't think it was malicious but ultimately Robinson caught Duursma high and had turned his body to protect himself. I can see it being thrown out on review but he'll be offered a week.

 

[Bearded Clam]

nothing in it.

bumped pretty much shoulder to shoulder.. no head contact whatsoever.. mitch actually did the right thing getting down low and going the body on body bump.

dursma had no concussion or head injury from it at all.. so where the issue?..

are we really gonna start carding blokes for body on body bumps just because one of the players in the bump comes off second best and breaks a collarbone?

the free shouldve been reversed when DBJ came in a remonstrated after the fact.. but the ump probably felt sorry for DBJ because he ended up getting a real nice facial “massage” from Mitch for his troubles.. young Darcy probably wont do that again in a hurry!..

 

[Milux]

Absolute farce.

 

[DrPowellPepper]

Absolute farce.

I think it’s the right decision Robison clearly goes low and tucks his shoulder to bump the player rather than tackle or go the ball it’s unlucky he hits duursma head first probably why it’s 1 week and not more.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

I have no issue if Mitch is suspended but I want the AFL to come out and say what he should of done. Is he supposed to just let him pick it up and run through on his merry way.

 

[Milux]

I think it’s the right decision Robison clearly goes low and tucks his shoulder to bump the player rather than tackle or go the ball it’s unlucky he hits duursma head first probably why it’s 1 week and not more.

The contact to the head is minimal. Which is why Duursma went off with a shoulder injury. No injuries shouldnt dictate penalties but in this case I think it shows most of the force was to the shoulder.

Does this set the precedent for someone busting someone's shoulder in a shepherd attempt? Should they get a week under this scenario?

 

[Hoops]

It's hard to tell from those replays if Robinson was moving.

 

[DrPowellPepper]

The contact to the head is minimal. Which is why Duursma went off with a shoulder injury. No injuries shouldnt dictate penalties but in this case I think it shows most of the force was to the shoulder.

Does this set the precedent for someone busting someone's shoulder in a shepherd attempt? Should they get a week under this scenario?

I think it’s more about the act of a front on bump of a bloke with head over the footy

Minimal contact = minimal suspension

Did Robinson bump - Yes
Did he make high contact - Yes
Could he have tried to tackle - Yes

shepherding is a completely different action Robinson hit a bloke front on its exactly the type of incident the AFL have been trying to stamp out.

 

[Milux]

I think it’s more about the act of a front on bump of a bloke with head over the footy

Minimal contact = minimal suspension

Did Robinson bump - Yes
Did he make high contact - Yes
Could he have tried to tackle - Yes

shepherding is a completely different action Robinson hit a bloke front on its exactly the type of incident the AFL have been trying to stamp out.

Can't argue much with that.

I just don't think his initial decision was to bump. Kinda looked like he got stuck half way. Is what it is.

 

[Bluelegs]

What do the AFL want Robinson to do in this scenario? Take the Duursma hit to his front exposing his ribs? Jump out of the way?

The 'chose to bump' line is rolled out whenever a player turns their body to protect themselves but the other options are to either cop the hit at full force and leave yourself (and your oponent) open to injury or shirk the contest. If the AFL want the latter they need to have the courage to say it so there will at least be some understanding around the rule.

 

[P4Life]

Taking out whether it is a Football Action or not, how does it get classified as Medium Impact if Duursma has a broken collarbone?
I, like plenty on here are not sure it is a reportable action but the Medium Impact is what surprises me.
Tribunal is not my go so if someone can advise it would be much appreciated.

 

[DrPowellPepper]

What do the AFL want Robinson to do in this scenario? Take the Duursma hit to his front exposing his ribs? Jump out of the way?

The 'chose to bump' line is rolled out whenever a player turns their body to protect themselves but the other options are to either cop the hit at full force and leave yourself (and your oponent) open to injury or shirk the contest. If the AFL want the latter they need to have the courage to say it so there will at least be some understanding around the rule.

Stand put his hands up and or try tackle and probably give away the free kick in this instance.

Robinson goes hard low and tucks his shoulder in, it wasn’t far of from being a very very very serious incident.

 

[Bluelegs]

Stand put his hands up and or try tackle and probably give away the free kick in this instance.

Robinson goes hard low and tucks his shoulder in, it wasn’t far of from being a very very very serious incident.

What would putting his hands up do? The ball is loose about one step before Robinson makes contact. Electing to tackle would mean Robinson cops the full force of the hit to his front. I honestly don't think he had time to do anything but turn his body.

I think at this point Robinson is still within his rights to believe he can get the ball.

 

[Milux]

Looks like the lions will appeal this aswell. Will set an example on how the rest of the season should play out.

 

[gordo2016]

Looks like the lions will appeal this aswell. Will set an example on how the rest of the season should play out.

If they appeal they should give him an extra week for wasting their time.

 

[DrPowellPepper]

What would putting his hands up do? The ball is loose about one step before Robinson makes contact. Electing to tackle would mean Robinson cops the full force of the hit to his front. I honestly don't think he had time to do anything but turn his body.

I think at this point Robinson is still within his rights to believe he can get the ball.
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Do you remember the incident in the GF where macrae I think drove his head into Viney, Viney stopped put his hands up didn’t move his body still gave away the free kick. I think this is how the AFL wants players to react in this situation

 

[Bluelegs]

Do you remember the incident in the GF where macrae I think drove his head into Viney, Viney stopped put his hands up didn’t move his body still gave away the free kick. I think this is how the AFL wants players to react in this situation

Do you mean this one?


Very different, the speed was a lot slower in that incident. Macrae was pretty much stationary and picked up the ball, saw Viney coming and turned his head towards Viney. Viney was going slow enough to realise Macrae was tucking his head in, effectively playing for the free. Which is why Viney pulled back on the tackle and put his hands up to try and show the umpire he wasn't at fault.

If the two of them were moving as quickly as Robbo and Duursma there's no way Viney can move out of the way like that.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Play on. Was playing the ball then braced for contact when it went the other way. Didn't line him up, didn't run through him. Should get off.

 

[P4Life]

Taking out whether it is a Football Action or not, how does it get classified as Medium Impact if Duursma has a broken collarbone?
I, like plenty on here are not sure it is a reportable action but the Medium Impact is what surprises me.
Tribunal is not my go so if someone can advise it would be much appreciated.

Just read that Duursma Injury is minor which makes more sense as to why Medium Impact