Coach Michael Voss

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Show_Me_The_Money said:
People wanted Voss sacked because finals were expected and we were in the bottom four with few if any injuries. That's it in black and white and given the circumstances they (and I) were more than entitled to doubt him. Voss has since turned it around and deserves their backing moving forward. I just think there's too many posters that want to focus on what was said when we were losing as opposed to what's going on now. Which is somewhat hypocritical given they were complaining about negativity in what was probably fair enough situation to criticise, but just want to be negative now when there's not too much to be negative over.
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Yet others were ridiculed/targeted for stating he shouldn't be sacked

Some things never change, which perhaps should be front of mind before making claims

No one here would know the capabilities of a coach unless in the innersanctum

A run of wins or losses never dictates the true nature of a teams capabilities

Unfortunately, many that wanted Voss gone, was never purely based on losses and so called selection integrity played a massive role

Anyway, looking forward to the rest of the season
 
JustaBattler said:
Yep - everyone is entitled to their opinion and (apparently to some) all opnions are equal - it has been stated in this forum that all "opinions are equal" so all opinions must be - except that isnt how the real world works so that statement might sound correct might sound all nice and cuddly and unassaliable until someone deconstructs its nonsense.

I dont go to a plumber for medical advice...or a doctor for plumbing advice and I ceertainly dont come in here reading anti Voss entitlement syndrome posters for any footy understanding what so ever.
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Well yeah, the 'sack Voss' type posts offering nothing else, I'd agree those opinions are worth less than others. But it doesn't seem like you're talking about just those type of posts to be honest.

As long as people are offering some rationale for their thinking I reckon its fine - the post above from Show_Me_The_Money that you had no interest engaging with, for example. I don't agree with it (in that I was never on the sack Voss train) but I wouldn't call it feral or shameful lol
 
Show_Me_The_Money said:
they (and I) were more than entitled to doubt him. Voss has since turned it around and deserves their backing moving forward.
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So you'll back him in only whilst the team is winning. Ok lol.
 

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bourbons said:
Well yeah, the 'sack Voss' type posts offering nothing else, I'd agree those opinions are worth less than others. But it doesn't seem like you're talking about just those type of posts to be honest.

As long as people are offering some rationale for their thinking I reckon it’s fine - the post above from Show_Me_The_Money that you had no interest engaging with, for example. I don't agree with it (in that I was never on the sack Voss train) but I wouldn't call it feral or shameful lol
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Good post. Some here are so determined to elevate their view as the definitive version of reality that they will strike out with venom at any person that has an alternative view.
How debilitating it must it be to have to “win” a debate with anonymous people on a niche social platform at the cost of your dignity.
 
Show_Me_The_Money said:
I like how you take just a small portion out of my post to quote me out of context. It's posts like this that are worthless.
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Ok, so will you continue to back Voss the next bunch of losses in a row?

As I said.
 
Vossy's gloss levels right now...

The Original Series GIF by Star Trek
 
Show_Me_The_Money said:
Another that didn't just take small portion of my post but also added their own content in a poor attempt to ridicule. Let me get this straight you guys are complaining about other posters?
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bigblueboy said:
Good post. Some here are so determined to elevate their view as the definitive version of reality that they will strike out with venom at any person that has an alternative view.
How debilitating it must it be to have to “win” a debate with anonymous people on a niche social platform at the cost of your dignity.
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No, 'some' are just calling for balance and perspective.

We have strong leaders in place with the proven capacity to make informed decisions at the right time. By that I mean Cook mostly - side eye to the board under Sayers (cue dramatic interlude).

My opinion still hasn't changed, from the depth of our losing streak to now. Do a review, generate the strategy, execute on the key findings.

We are supporters so it's fine to be upset, even irrational during games. But after the white line fever subsided, many were blatantly ignoring the direct words of the man coaching us (a man of integrity who was beingvery transparent and clearly hurting too) to push their point that his time had come.

It's hard to read and hear this steady stream of negativity. It's not harmless, it all adds to the noise and enough noise can sway opinions. Glad the club is wiser and stronger now and avoided another disastrous knee jerk.

And for me, those people calling for his head don't get to simply walk back their position as it was so clearly wrong at the time. It also makes it hard for me to trust their capacity to engage with any value on other discussions.

Hence why I've flagged before that I'd like to be able to flag/tag posters - I don't ignore anyone, but I'd like a visual reminder that I've found someone's opinion on something questionable in the past. I could never remember all the forum names of those I have doubts about (not all posts are as memorable as earl's pearls and not all reglowers is spuds) so it would be great functionality to add IMO.
 
When asked by the anti-carlton media whether we need mckay
Response was Gold "we won clearances, do we need Sam Walsh"
 
Elmer_Judd said:
Won't happen this year, but I am very confident Vossy will be our next premiership coach. Took a while, but he clearly has now total buy in from the boys with his game plan and expected defensive and pressure efforts.

Haven't had this much faith or trust in a coach since Parko
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Good coaches get the list into contention but do not guarantee premierships. Voss will lead us to a sustainable period in the top 4.
 
Show_Me_The_Money said:
People wanted Voss sacked because finals were expected and we were in the bottom four with few if any injuries. That's it in black and white and given the circumstances they (and I) were more than entitled to doubt him. Voss has since turned it around and deserves their backing moving forward. I just think there's too many posters that want to focus on what was said when we were losing as opposed to what's going on now. Which is somewhat hypocritical given they were complaining about negativity in what was probably a fair enough situation to criticise, but just want to be negative now when there's not too much to be negative over.
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No. The expectations are the problem, and that was a choice people made - to believe that this team, full of players that have never made the finals, who couldn't finish the job last year despite it being within reach, would make the finals. On what basis does anyone have a right to expect that? Hope for it, long for it... sure, me too. But expect it on what basis?

Once they've made finals regularly we might then start expecting. Looks like things are clicking at the right time and we have the best chance in years of getting there. Going to savour it if we do. So keen for Cripps to get a crack in September.
 

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