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I know we’re going for the most feral attempts at saying our club’s name but surely it’s ‘SSNDN BMBRS’??
I did miss that N;
SSNDN BMBRS
SSNDN X BMBRS
XSSNDN BMBRS
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I know we’re going for the most feral attempts at saying our club’s name but surely it’s ‘SSNDN BMBRS’??
Exenden is pretty coolI did miss that N;
SSNDN BMBRS
SSNDN X BMBRS
XSSNDN BMBRS
Elon votes for X-donExenden is pretty cool
I think teams have just figured out that playing a genuine big key defender on Langford is a better way to go. He might be too quick for them or beat them at ground level, but even though he's a good contested mark for his size, guys like Taylor or Collins aren't going to lose aerial one-on-ones against him.
Having said that, Langford spilt some marks against North that he would normally have taken, and we botched a couple of simple kicks to him on the lead last week that should have given him good shots (Durham had a bad one of these).
As a non-Victorian, I find SSDN X BMBRS charming.I did miss that N;
SSNDN BMBRS
SSNDN X BMBRS
XSSNDN BMBRS
Not sure. Menzies at half back worked, Ridley should've been freed up sooner (like at the start)... Think Voss had a bit more to work with tonight.Comprehensively outcoached tonight. Carlton knew what we were going to do and came prepared.
So when we changed our game plan we looked better? And we had to wait till the damage was done because why?Not sure. Menzies at half back worked, Ridley should've been freed up sooner (like at the start)... Think Voss had a bit more to work with tonight.
The parts moved, I don't think the plan changed? We try to maintain possession with short kicks, because we don't have true KP players ahead of the ball. The ball goes in wide and so we kick a lot of points.So when we changed our game plan we looked better? And we had to wait till the damage was done because why?
Shiel is a really odd situation. He doesn’t seem to want to be here but he’s still running around in the VFL collecting his chequesHe’s got a really big layering problem in the middle of the ground.
At the start of the year the main guys were Merrett, Parish, Setterfield and Durham and the second wave was Caldwell, Perkins, Hobbs. Plus Draper as a genuine second ruck who at least throws his weight around. Stringer, Wright and Gresham stationed permanently deeper forward.
Now it’s Merrett, Durham and Caldwell as the first wave and Perkins, Stringer and Gresham as the second wave and no physical presence from the second ruck.
The midfield is weaker and it’s pinching the really good finishers out of the forward half.
He seems to have written Shiel off completely because he is the obvious guy to come in and be a permanent on baller for a while and allow the guys listed above to go back to being that second wave of rotations but even Tsatas, it’s a perfect time to get him on the ball for a full game and let him learn some stuff, even if he might not produce immediately.
Shiel is a really odd situation. He doesn’t seem to want to be here but he’s still running around in the VFL collecting his cheques
He’s got a really big layering problem in the middle of the ground.
At the start of the year the main guys were Merrett, Parish, Setterfield and Durham and the second wave was Caldwell, Perkins, Hobbs. Plus Draper as a genuine second ruck who at least throws his weight around. Stringer, Wright and Gresham stationed permanently deeper forward.
Now it’s Merrett, Durham and Caldwell as the first wave and Perkins, Stringer and Gresham as the second wave and no physical presence from the second ruck.
The midfield is weaker and it’s pinching the really good finishers out of the forward half.
He seems to have written Shiel off completely because he is the obvious guy to come in and be a permanent on baller for a while and allow the guys listed above to go back to being that second wave of rotations but even Tsatas, it’s a perfect time to get him on the ball for a full game and let him learn some stuff, even if he might not produce immediately.
To be fair to Scott, Shiel has been underwhelming in the VFL. He should be ripping it apart.What else is he going to do? Jogging around in the VFL for a few hundred k staying fit without pushing too hard seems a decent stop gap until he can get a trade.
For all the talk that Brad loves older players, he doesn't seem to love Shiel.
To be fair to Scott, Shiel has been underwhelming in the VFL. He should be ripping it apart.
Also, had a chance as sub and offered zero.
Maybe.He looks like he’s jogging around at 50% effort in the VFL, doesn’t seem like a guy who’s looking to force his way back in to the AFL side, maybe Brad has said he’s not going to get a game?
Menzie is not that old to be fair.We are starting to show a real habit of having players available with skills or form to play a role and totally neglecting selecting them in favour of "favourites" who are selected because of who they are and not what they bring to a position.
They are either moved out of their preferred position which impacts what they can do in the new position (Martin) for a lose lose.
Or they are not good enough, been moved past in one position and are "hidden" or trialled in the other position as a chance to stay in the team (Kelly).
Again last night he's getting credit for the Martin move, you don't get credit for playing a player in his natural position.
Why play Menzie when you have kids waiting to play that role?
If they are not good enough for a position, put them in the VFL and they can bolster that roster, and we can expose and learn more about the list.
Setters played and he was ok, but he's so heavily taped and not moving that well and does the injury again.
Didn't we learn this last year playing underdone or not right players? He even said he'd learnt from it after the giants and pies losses.
We are screaming out for bodies in the midfield - refuses to play shiel.
First round draft pick is so very obviously a developmental player at this point - plays him as sub, out of position.
FFS try and accentuate a players strengths, and give all players a shot. ATM there's a chosen few who are turned to to fix issues you have recruited for and there are a few players having their development slaughtered
For as many good things that have been changed at this club there are some not so good ones being exhibited.
What’s shiel being doing in the vfl though, has he had a game where he’s out and out dominated like he should be able to with ease. He’s been running around like he just doesn’t care, so why should he deserve to come in. Yesterday 18 touches 1 tackleShiel is a really odd situation. He doesn’t seem to want to be here but he’s still running around in the VFL collecting his cheques
Proves my pointWhat’s shiel being doing in the vfl though, has he had a game where he’s out and out dominated like he should be able to with ease. He’s been running around like he just doesn’t care, so why should he deserve to come in. Yesterday 18 touches 1 tackle
First up . Shiel was not as good as Setterfield last week and he has not exactly been doing a lot in the VFL . He has checked out . Who says he would be any better on a wing. He is not in the long term plan. He would already be gone if the Saints didn’t blink .We are starting to show a real habit of having players available with skills or form to play a role and totally neglecting selecting them in favour of "favourites" who are selected because of who they are and not what they bring to a position.
They are either moved out of their preferred position which impacts what they can do in the new position (Martin) for a lose lose.
Or they are not good enough, been moved past in one position and are "hidden" or trialled in the other position as a chance to stay in the team (Kelly).
Again last night he's getting credit for the Martin move, you don't get credit for playing a player in his natural position.
Why play Menzie when you have kids waiting to play that role?
If they are not good enough for a position, put them in the VFL and they can bolster that roster, and we can expose and learn more about the list.
Setters played and he was ok, but he's so heavily taped and not moving that well and does the injury again.
Didn't we learn this last year playing underdone or not right players? He even said he'd learnt from it after the giants and pies losses.
We are screaming out for bodies in the midfield - refuses to play shiel.
First round draft pick is so very obviously a developmental player at this point - plays him as sub, out of position.
FFS try and accentuate a players strengths, and give all players a shot. ATM there's a chosen few who are turned to to fix issues you have recruited for and there are a few players having their development slaughtered
For as many good things that have been changed at this club there are some not so good ones being exhibited.