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Expansion Media reaction: SL-NRL expansion vs. AFL two-team expansion plans
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jackmac7
Club Legend
Yeah, at the moment.
But in 2012 it could be a different story.
Penrith could have 12 Junior footy clubs by then which is pretty big for that sort of population up against rugby.
Valleys FC 4Ever
Debutant
There are actually significantly more Indigenous Australians in the NRL than the AFL, despite the fact that AFL squads are almost twice the size of NRL squads.
Valleys FC 4Ever
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http://www.humanrights.gov.au/racial_discrimination/whats_the_score/index.html
It's pretty obvious to anyone who's watched games from both codes.
Besides, the vast majority of Indigenous Australians live in NSW and QLD, two of the states dominated by RL.
jackmac7
Club Legend
I couldn't find any figures on that site to back up your claims.
We can't pick em with all those tongans playing.
All Australians should fear an expansion of the AFL. The expansion of the AFL will have very detrimental consequences for Australia's sporting successes. 
I love celebrating the participation and success of Australians competing in international sports. I don't care which sport it is, whether it's cricket, rugby, soccer, golf, cycling, athletics, swimming, rowing, skiing, hockey, badmington, squash, triathalon etc etc it does not matter. The more difficult the achievement because of the number of countries competing the more thrill I get out of Australians winning.
Unfortunately AFL is not an international sport, I am certain it never will be. I've seen probably a dozen Swans games live including the 2006 GF loss and agree it can be a great game to watch live, provided the scores are close. Unfortunately on TV it is less attractive, too much of the important off the ball running is lost on TV.
AFL always has and always will have a detrimental effect on Australia's ability to compete at international sport, it's growth will unfortunately lead to a worsening of the situation.
It is ironic that Melbourne wears proudly the tag as being the sports capital of Australia but it is responsible for handbraking Australia's success in many of the sports Victorians love to watch. The irony was certainly lost on Leyton Hewitt after his bundling out of the last Australian Open when he lamented the situation of too few kids taking up tennis preferring the sport of AFL. He has appeared often on the Footy Show and is always offering support for his Adelaide team.
When Australia lose an important international sporting contest all AFL supporters should reflect on what their sport has done to directly contribute to each loss. The planned AFL expansion is just driving the knife deeper.
I once said to a friend who grew up in Melbourne that AFL was equivalent to Australia's sporting cancer. Understandably he was affronted until I explained what I meant, begrudgingly he understood my point. He returned to Melbourne a few years ago and I was glad when he told me he was following Melbourne Victory and had been to a few games.
I'm hopefull that when he has kids he does the right thing by them and by Australia and avoids signing on to the AFL problem.
I love celebrating the participation and success of Australians competing in international sports. I don't care which sport it is, whether it's cricket, rugby, soccer, golf, cycling, athletics, swimming, rowing, skiing, hockey, badmington, squash, triathalon etc etc it does not matter. The more difficult the achievement because of the number of countries competing the more thrill I get out of Australians winning.
Unfortunately AFL is not an international sport, I am certain it never will be. I've seen probably a dozen Swans games live including the 2006 GF loss and agree it can be a great game to watch live, provided the scores are close. Unfortunately on TV it is less attractive, too much of the important off the ball running is lost on TV.
AFL always has and always will have a detrimental effect on Australia's ability to compete at international sport, it's growth will unfortunately lead to a worsening of the situation.
It is ironic that Melbourne wears proudly the tag as being the sports capital of Australia but it is responsible for handbraking Australia's success in many of the sports Victorians love to watch. The irony was certainly lost on Leyton Hewitt after his bundling out of the last Australian Open when he lamented the situation of too few kids taking up tennis preferring the sport of AFL. He has appeared often on the Footy Show and is always offering support for his Adelaide team.
When Australia lose an important international sporting contest all AFL supporters should reflect on what their sport has done to directly contribute to each loss. The planned AFL expansion is just driving the knife deeper.
I once said to a friend who grew up in Melbourne that AFL was equivalent to Australia's sporting cancer. Understandably he was affronted until I explained what I meant, begrudgingly he understood my point. He returned to Melbourne a few years ago and I was glad when he told me he was following Melbourne Victory and had been to a few games.
I'm hopefull that when he has kids he does the right thing by them and by Australia and avoids signing on to the AFL problem.
Is that your best?
I could ask you the same question. Perhaps you'd like to provide some empirical evidence to support the long-winded diatribe you posted above.
If you want to discuss international sporting performances then there is little evidence to suggest that the soccer monocultures out-perform Australia. Yet it appears that this is what you would like Australia to become.
At the Olympics Australia is in the usually in the top 5 nations on the medal count. Soccer nations with greater population bases like Spain, Brazil, Italy etc regularly finish below us. Perhaps this is because they devote an innordinate amount of resources into just one sport where just 2 medals are available.
To the detriment of all others.
jackmac7
Club Legend
All Australians should fear an expansion of the AFL. The expansion of the AFL will have very detrimental consequences for Australia's sporting successes.
I love celebrating the participation and success of Australians competing in international sports. I don't care which sport it is, whether it's cricket, rugby, soccer, golf, cycling, athletics, swimming, rowing, skiing, hockey, badmington, squash, triathalon etc etc it does not matter. The more difficult the achievement because of the number of countries competing the more thrill I get out of Australians winning.
Unfortunately AFL is not an international sport, I am certain it never will be. I've seen probably a dozen Swans games live including the 2006 GF loss and agree it can be a great game to watch live, provided the scores are close. Unfortunately on TV it is less attractive, too much of the important off the ball running is lost on TV.
AFL always has and always will have a detrimental effect on Australia's ability to compete at international sport, it's growth will unfortunately lead to a worsening of the situation.
It is ironic that Melbourne wears proudly the tag as being the sports capital of Australia but it is responsible for handbraking Australia's success in many of the sports Victorians love to watch. The irony was certainly lost on Leyton Hewitt after his bundling out of the last Australian Open when he lamented the situation of too few kids taking up tennis preferring the sport of AFL. He has appeared often on the Footy Show and is always offering support for his Adelaide team.
When Australia lose an important international sporting contest all AFL supporters should reflect on what their sport has done to directly contribute to each loss. The planned AFL expansion is just driving the knife deeper.
I once said to a friend who grew up in Melbourne that AFL was equivalent to Australia's sporting cancer. Understandably he was affronted until I explained what I meant, begrudgingly he understood my point. He returned to Melbourne a few years ago and I was glad when he told me he was following Melbourne Victory and had been to a few games.
I'm hopefull that when he has kids he does the right thing by them and by Australia and avoids signing on to the AFL problem.
What a load of rubbish.
We have 20 million people and that's not enough people for you to produce talent?
How dare you pay so much disrespect for one of the oldest code's in the world. 150 years of rich history and you call it 'cancer', whats wrong with you? I suppose the AFL taking it's footy show to Germany didn't register in your head that they pay just as much attention to other sports as well as supporting the Socceroos.
Do you think the poms give a shit that the EPL is robbing talent from their national cricket team. No because they are so pasionate about their soccer like we are about our Footy but that doesn't mean they don't support their cricket team.
Your basically asking us to stop watching a sport we have loved for 150 years so we can become better at International sports level for all Australian sports like track and field. I for one I took three mates from work who come from european descent to an AFL game after they had seen Melbourne Victory games months earlier, they are now going to AFL games every week and have signed up as members this year. They can't get enough of it! It's all they talk about at work now. They told me the A-league just didn't provide the entertainment value that AFL did. And I know what their kids will be following in the future!
I enjoy all sports but when people like you show disrespect to AFL, I can't wait for that knife to drive deeper if you so put it.
It's the Australian game , the Indigenous game, it's OUR GAME!
Leagueworld
Debutant
"Its our game" - ummmm no its your game and that is fine but the nationalistic rubbish so often seen on these boards borders on forms of racism and national/racial supremism.
We live in a global world, a multicultural nation. We have freedom of choice, to paint people into a corner if they do not like AFL implying they are not really true aussies supporting other codes is ridiculous.
We live in a global world, a multicultural nation. We have freedom of choice, to paint people into a corner if they do not like AFL implying they are not really true aussies supporting other codes is ridiculous.
jackmac7
Club Legend
yeah, soccer has never had any problems in Australia with ethnic clashes has it!
I know your being sarcastic but i never said that Soccer didnt have a problem with race in Australia. I once was walking past a soccer field in Fairfield where there were about 100 Croatians and Serbs beating the crap out of each other.
Holding The Ball
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I'm pretty sure that Aboriginies play rugby league as well.
And don't you think that people of New Zealand and Tongan heritage (that may be Australian citizens too) would want to watch people of their own heritage too?
Talk about bigoted.
ringleader
All Australian
So why did they bring in a racial code?
Why was that guy pinting at his skin to the crowd?
Yes it will be interesting to see if the Perth, Melbourne or Adelaide journalists use the word WAR at all?
I just find it funny how they can say that the team is nothing but a TV money grap because there is no juniors or infrastructure in the region - all this when the Melbourne Storm has sat there for 10 years in the same situation from a league which based its existance on a TV money grab.
Not to mention the fact that they say the Gold Coast football club is copying the Titans because of their success despite Southport bidding to become a part of the AFL in 1996 and several champion players comming from the region.
Just pernnial complaining by fractured rugby league fans of the Super League Era, they just can't let go. Its easier for them to hate the AFL rather than try and better rugby league, to the extend they will use the NRL's mistakes as justification of the AFL's success.
Footy is a success because its is great to watch, follow and play with your mates - the good thing is that journalists can't influence live TV and the kids on the feild playing - the people who watch and play walk away with a experience which brings them back. If the clubs make and keep a connection to the community then they will succeed, no matter what crap old rugby league coachs write about.
Ancient and Loyal
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tl;dr.
Just felt the need to mention the favourable media coverage that the AFL plays outlets for. You can almost guarantee that this is the slant they wanted on these stories...
...You're not serious are you RUNVS? Michael Long ring any bells?
All Australian sports have been subject to severe racism, because it was embedded in the national culture for so bloody long! It's like me claiming that my homeland (the UK) is not riven by class divisions!
Just felt the need to mention the favourable media coverage that the AFL plays outlets for. You can almost guarantee that this is the slant they wanted on these stories...
...You're not serious are you RUNVS? Michael Long ring any bells?
All Australian sports have been subject to severe racism, because it was embedded in the national culture for so bloody long! It's like me claiming that my homeland (the UK) is not riven by class divisions!
WhyAlwaysMe
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This argument is ridiculous. Just take a look at the US with NFL. The game is uniquely American and is played nowhere else professionally in the world yet it is yards ahead of other professional sports played internationally such as Baseball, Basketball and Ice Hockey. Sorta blows your theory out the water.
Ancient and Loyal
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The US is a nation of 300 million people however. Australia is a quaint (yet charming) backwater.
Not true, 11% in the NRL according to your link, which I think is about the same as the AFL. with as you said an AFL squad being larger
Dogs Of War
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Umm, my comment was in response to this one....
I thought it was funny that because the sport was created in Australia, that meant it shouldn't be played overseas. So I thought I better point out other sports created overseas, but played in Australia to show how a good sport will be picked up by others.
NFL is similar to the NRL. Big Hits, and perfect for TV. 25 years ago the AFL was struggling, and then got it's act together. There is no reason why NRL can't do the same. Once News Ltd is out of the picture and stops being on both sides of the negotiating table Rugby League will be much stronger.
