Maybe the Tuck rumors are true

[Bojangles17]

very interesting turn of events, would appear to me that perhaps internally Tucky is rated No higher than Foley or even a whitey/rainesy in 12 months.

A massive risk when you consider he has finished top 3 B&F at AFL level id be interested where Polak finished with his wafl club. If that was on the table Id want Polak and R2 pick for Tucky

If we keep No 8 pick for say Joel Selwood and get Polak then whoa...Im excited...

 

[Weaver]

Why is so much currency being put on Polak? ... WE DO NOT NEED POLAK!

Most people agree we need someone who can play as a key defender in 2007.

Most people understand that no KP draftee is going to walk straight into a team and hold down a KP from day 1.

Most people realise that Gaspar is playing out his last season, that Hall is dodgy and that coming back from a knee Thursfield is likely to struggle for 12 months.

Most people understand that we are not going to win finals and premierships in the next 3-4 years. Recruiting a 28 year old would be a waste. Getting a 23 year old who could be 28-29 when we are in contention for silverware makes more sense.

Add it all up and ask yourself, how many 22-24 year old key defenders are available. They have to be reasonably good. Have to be at clubs willing to trade them. Have to be affordable - which means they can't be getting a regular game.

Richmond have been linked with Thornton, Polak, Brown, Perry, Ferguson, J.Cloke. Basically everyone on the market that fits the profile.

That is why Polak is getting all the talk. It is obvious what we are trying to do, and obvious that we see Polak as top of the list.

 

[ARES]

Most people understand that we are not going to win finals and premierships in the next 3-4 years. Recruiting a 28 year old would be a waste. Getting a 23 year old who could be 28-29 when we are in contention for silverware makes more sense.

Add it all up and ask yourself, how many 22-24 year old key defenders are available. They have to be reasonably good. Have to be at clubs willing to trade them. Have to be affordable - which means they can't be getting a regular game.

defenders do not have to be 28 to be prime. <23 year old defenders are as good as any.

Macguire, Rivers, Miller, Wheatly, Dale Morris, Mundy, Johnson...and this is only a couple of defenders from 3 teams !! The list goes on...

Polak aint worth a Tuck or Cogs or 1st or 2nd rnd pick!

draft youth!!

 

[Weaver]

defenders do not have to be 28 to be prime. <23 year old defenders are as good as any.

Macguire, Rivers, Miller, Wheatly, Dale Morris, Mundy, Johnson...and this is only a couple of defenders from 3 teams !! The list goes on...

Polak aint worth a Tuck or Cogs or 1st or 2nd rnd pick!

draft youth!!

Yawn. Read first, post second.

Rivers (22), Miller (23), Wheatley (25), Morris (24), Harris (24), Maguire (22), Johnson (22), Mundy (21) all rather prove the point that you can't play as a teenager. You want to be 22+ to hold down a key spot.

If we draft a kid now ... who plays fullback / CHB in 2007 and 2008? That is the dilema we are looking at trying to solve.

A 22-24 year defender now kills two birds with one stone. He can play immediately and help in 07-09 when we will be a bottom-8 calibre side.

He can also help us in 2010+ when we are hopefull in contention.

If we get a 28 year he will help now, but not in when we need him in 5 years.
If we get a 17 year old he might help in 5 years, but will be no value now.
We get a good 23 year old and we cover both bases (if Miller and co can find the right one at the right price).

 

[Truetiger]

Thats very relevant. It also staggers me. Goes to show when Tivendale gets his opportunity to play well against **** oposition, he takes it with both hands . He's our answer to Des Headland

But when we played Sydney in round 8, he had 2 kicks.

Surely when we get polak it wont be Tivendale or hall we put up for trade that freo would accept. Yes we should trade them however who would want em. No one.

 

[just maybe]

SIMPLE truth ladies and gentlemen.

Polak couldn't get a game....Shane Parker could. Anyone seriously think Parker is that good!

Simple truth? I guess years of 9th place finishes has made you utterly deluded.

You want simple truth? You're an idiot.

Parker is an excellent defender and was rarely beaten this year, despite playing on bigger players.

I'd be rapt to have him at Adelaide. Quality player through and through.

Do you EVER watch any football outside of Victoria?

 

[tugga]

Simple truth? I guess years of 9th place finishes has made you utterly deluded.

You want simple truth? You're an idiot.

Parker is an excellent defender and was rarely beaten this year, despite playing on bigger players.

I'd be rapt to have him at Adelaide. Quality player through and through.

Do you EVER watch any football outside of Victoria?

So? Your opinion is different to his. No need to come on here and call him an idiot and insinuate he knows nothing outside the happenings of the Victorian border.
For what it's worth though, I agree with you, begrudgingly. Parker is often asked to do a huge job and it's a task he usually does very well.

 

[Darth_Tiger]

parker is a very good defender.

 

[ARES]

Yawn. Read first, post second.

Rivers (22), Miller (23), Wheatley (25), Morris (24), Harris (24), Maguire (22), Johnson (22), Mundy (21) all rather prove the point that you can't play as a teenager. You want to be 22+ to hold down a key spot.

If we draft a kid now ... who plays fullback / CHB in 2007 and 2008? That is the dilema we are looking at trying to solve.

A 22-24 year defender now kills two birds with one stone. He can play immediately and help in 07-09 when we will be a bottom-8 calibre side.

He can also help us in 2010+ when we are hopefull in contention.

If we get a 28 year he will help now, but not in when we need him in 5 years.
If we get a 17 year old he might help in 5 years, but will be no value now.
We get a good 23 year old and we cover both bases (if Miller and co can find the right one at the right price).

Yawn? Don't be like that now.

Rivers (22), Miller (23), Wheatley (25), Morris (24), Harris (24), Maguire (22), Johnson (22), Mundy (21)
All the above defenders (Mundy this year but he is 21) have made a name for themselves 2-3 years ago and pretty much held their own, hence lower their age by that margin and I think I prove my point.

 

[just maybe]

So? Your opinion is different to his. No need to come on here and call him an idiot and insinuate he knows nothing outside the happenings of the Victorian border.
For what it's worth though, I agree with you, begrudgingly. Parker is often asked to do a huge job and it's a task he usually does very well.

I call him an idiot because he slags off a very good player when obviously he doesn't have a clue about him.

 

[Madtiger2006]

Tuck and Cogs are 2 of our most important players. We should never get rid of them. Especially in a swap for a half hearted alco in Polak

 

[hoss]

Polak's attitude can be suspect, but many of you are underating him BIG time. Versatile, KPP players are hard to come by, especially considering Polak has played 70+ games and is only 22. Has one of the best pair of hands in the league and has the potential to be a gun for the next 7 - 8 years. Coughlan and Tuck are dime a dozen midfielders, it's just lucky for the Tiges that midfielders is what Freo are lacking.

 

[Weaver]

Yawn? Don't be like that now.

Rivers (22), Miller (23), Wheatley (25), Morris (24), Harris (24), Maguire (22), Johnson (22), Mundy (21)
All the above defenders (Mundy this year but he is 21) have made a name for themselves 2-3 years ago and pretty much held their own, hence lower their age by that margin and I think I prove my point.

Morris debuted in 2005 as a 22 year old.

Harris' first good season when he played 22 games was 2005 when he was 23. Before that he'd shown promise - not made a name for himself.

Rivers only played 3 games in his first year. Then won the Rising Star, struggled mightly last year, and only got back to good football this year.

Miller only played 4 games in his first season and didn't establish himself until his third.

Johnson debuted last year as a 20 year old.

Wheatley still spends more time in the reserves than the seniors.

Maguire played 12 and 17 games in his first 2 years. In 2003 he was a back-up ruckman. Only in his third year in 2004 did he really establish himself. He was 20 by then.

Roughead is a good example. 36 games in 2 years as his apprenticeship. Shown a lot of promise, but by no means established himself as a genuine CHB yet. Teenagers and under-21s don't do it in the AFL.

 

[Skooks]

Coughlan imo is an absolute gem.

Fremantle would win BIG if they traded Polak for Coughlan. Why?

Polak has done nothing at Freo really. He's done nothing. He's been Mediocre at best. Maybe a change of scenery and an increased role may help him, I don't know, but Im still not sure where you play him. Forward or Back? You can't play him forward coz he ****s himself in front of goal. I'd play him back, and he'd probably do ok there in your side. Yet what you have to ask is can he play on the oppositions best forward?

Coughlan on the other hand is a B&F winner in 2003 and imo was your best player in 2005 too. This year sure, he did his knee and has had nagging injury problems such as OP through most of his career. Yet from what I have seen, his best is Top 15 in the AFL material. He finds the pill as well as anyone, tackles and is an on field leader. He's the sort of bloke that will be Best on Ground in a Grand Final. This is the same with Tuck. They are very similar players that will deliver in th real pressure situations. If Freo got one of these two, they'd be laughing. They'd wait till Cogs fully got over his knee after the mid-season break and he would set it alight at Freo. Tuck would do the same, him and Carr in the middle would be scary. Sandilands knocking it down to 2 of the Top 5 clearance players in the league would be a huge win for Freo. That goes for Cogs too.

Don't make the wrong decision Richmond

 

[sante]

Coughlan imo is an absolute gem.

Fremantle would win BIG if they traded Polak for Coughlan. Why?

Polak has done nothing at Freo really. He's done nothing. He's been Mediocre at best. Maybe a change of scenery and an increased role may help him, I don't know, but Im still not sure where you play him. Forward or Back? You can't play him forward coz he ****s himself in front of goal. I'd play him back, and he'd probably do ok there in your side. Yet what you have to ask is can he play on the oppositions best forward?

Coughlan on the other hand is a B&F winner in 2003 and imo was your best player in 2005 too. This year sure, he did his knee and has had nagging injury problems such as OP through most of his career. Yet from what I have seen, his best is Top 15 in the AFL material. He finds the pill as well as anyone, tackles and is an on field leader. He's the sort of bloke that will be Best on Ground in a Grand Final. This is the same with Tuck. They are very similar players that will deliver in th real pressure situations. If Freo got one of these two, they'd be laughing. They'd wait till Cogs fully got over his knee after the mid-season break and he would set it alight at Freo. Tuck would do the same, him and Carr in the middle would be scary. Sandilands knocking it down to 2 of the Top 5 clearance players in the league would be a huge win for Freo. That goes for Cogs too.

Don't make the wrong decision Richmond

Coughlan is untouchable mate...we have said that

 

[Skooks]

Coughlan is untouchable mate...we have said that

Some of your mates here havent

 

[1980]

Can you please explain to me what the hell you could get for tivendale or ray hall??? Polak was No4 in the last superdraft and for whatever reason, has fallen out of favour at the dockers. He is exactly the type of player we desparately need.

Sums it up perfectly. If they're not good enough to game with any other club, they're not good enough to get a game with the Richmond footy club either.

If they're not tradable, delist them.

 

[Chops18]

Personally id rather keep Tuck instead of gettin Polak but in the long run its the best for us we need to lose a player for money reasons and losing tuck isn a bad option we lose a midfielder where we have the most players its a key defender we need so it may just work out for us keeping in mind Polak is only 22 aswell plenty of football ahead of him under TW would be a blessin in disguise. Terry just seems to get the best out of our players although our 100 point losses would suggest that but the attitude between the boys is much more positive and Polak would fit right in and be a gun for us.

 

[JuddyisGod]

It's funny on this board everyone is saying that Tuck is too good to be traded for Polak while on the Freo board most are saying that Tuck isn't good enough to be offered for Polak. FWIW i think both clubs would win in this trade, but still Tuck>Polak.

Polak would become a gun at Richmond though. What i can't figure out is why you need to clear up room in the salary cap, surely Polak couldn't be demanding too much?

 

[jezza]

It's funny on this board everyone is saying that Tuck is too good to be traded for Polak while on the Freo board most are saying that Tuck isn't good enough to be offered for Polak. FWIW i think both clubs would win in this trade, but still Tuck>Polak.

Polak would become a gun at Richmond though. What i can't figure out is why you need to clear up room in the salary cap, surely Polak couldn't be demanding too much?

It's more our budgeting, we still have a big debt to pay off and have committed to spending more on coaches so it means we can't afford to pay the full cap.

 

[Lenny*]

id rather keep Tuck instead of gettin Polak .

There it is. Leave it that.

 

[wart101]

Simple truth? I guess years of 9th place finishes has made you utterly deluded.

You want simple truth? You're an idiot.

Parker is an excellent defender and was rarely beaten this year, despite playing on bigger players.

I'd be rapt to have him at Adelaide. Quality player through and through.

Do you EVER watch any football outside of Victoria?

where not all victorians **** head, I hate adelaide, i mean, living in adelaide.

 

[jezza]

There's a young fella down at East Burwood that could be worth a look, perhaps a late draft pick or rookie selection. I won't say his name as recruiters would be all over this talent if they knew about him. If we got this guy, then there's no need for Polak or anyone else, that's for sure.

 

[JuddyisGod]

There's a young fella down at East Burwood that could be worth a look, perhaps a late draft pick or rookie selection. I won't say his name as recruiters would be all over this talent if they knew about him. If we got this guy, then there's no need for Polak or anyone else, that's for sure.

I think you're placing a little too much importance on Bigfooty and your opinion. I highly doubt recruiters stay up at night scouring Bigfooty for potential draftees. And presuming that the recruiters are hanging on your every word then how are Richmond going to find out about him if you don't say his name.

 

[jezza]

I think you're placing a little too much importance on Bigfooty and your opinion. I highly doubt recruiters stay up at night scouring Bigfooty for potential draftees. And presuming that the recruiters are hanging on your every word then how are Richmond going to find out about him if you don't say his name.

Seriously, this guy is a star, I know recruiters won't be looking on here, but I can't risk his name getting out before draft day. I will give you a sneak peak though:



Tall, fast, good hands, fits the Wallace style perfectly.