he isn't an idiot he just checks this place out from time to time when he is not playing footy
Luke McEntee
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ok then, i'll take your word for it. what book is he reading by the way?
a horse called MIGHTY
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Might & Power......good horse....
good book too
..........Luke turns 21 May 2, next year, a year of celebration for him and Dowler, Franklin, Muston, Roughy, Tuck and Luke. Three AFL debuts in their 21st year, we'll be needing a few enforced curfews, young messrs Franklin and Muston, being the lads that they are.
Whilst i can't comment on Luke's aerobic capacity its probably a relatively inaccurate generalisation that ruckmen dont have the athletic ability to keep up with the likes of Nick Riewoldt and co. Lets not forget Smouha pulled out a 15 beep test at draft camp and Kreuzer can supposedly do the same, reflects a pretty significant change in Ruckmans abilities.
Back on topic, i hope Luke can continue to develop, as has been mentioned he is relatively new to the game and also relatively young, i look forward to seeing him develop into a solid contributor for HFC over the coming years.
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I am sick and tired of reading and hearing all this rubbish about ruckmen playing KPB. If anyone seriously thinks that a Robbie Campbell or a Brent Renouf or a Luke McEntee or any other big blonk could possible have the aerobic capacity to keep up with and shut down a Nick Riewoldt, Jonathon Brown, Barry Hall....i shant go further. If anyone can tell me that a ruckman can do such a thing I will eat their dirty rotten smelly filthy jocks. Please will these people wake up to themselves and stop talking and thinking such crap. Have a nice day
PS. Go hawks.
I understand what you are saying mate but with robbie campbell he played on Barry Hall for a half and absolutely smashed him after killing us in the first half a couple of years ago. i think the only one out of all them who could play a chb would be robbie on the right opposition player not every week tho
I am sick and tired of reading and hearing all this rubbish about ruckmen playing KPB. If anyone seriously thinks that a Robbie Campbell or a Brent Renouf or a Luke McEntee or any other big blonk could possible have the aerobic capacity to keep up with and shut down a Nick Riewoldt, Jonathon Brown, Barry Hall....i shant go further. If anyone can tell me that a ruckman can do such a thing I will eat their dirty rotten smelly filthy jocks. Please will these people wake up to themselves and stop talking and thinking such crap. Have a nice day
PS. Go hawks.
Yeah, I'm sick of Renouf CHB all the time. I only think he'll be a ruck.
The thing that impresses me with McEntee, is that he was noticeable and had an impact on the field for Box Hill, while Renouf didn't do much. I'm well aware McEntee is a year older, and has had 1 more year in the AFL system, but for rucks, I don't think 1 year is much, and could be considered nothing. The whole reason I want him on the list, is to ensure he will be competing for the same spot on the list as Renouf, and right now he's ahead in my book.
At the end of 2008 we'll be closer to knowing who that will be, and it actually may be Taylor or Bailey who could be in consideration. I say that thinking that we may be in a position similar to Geelong, where there may be limited opportunity for them. But I sure hope we get a proper trade done like Adelaide got for both their ruck trades, and not Geelong got for King.
Justin Koschitzke, 26 next Sept., 197cm and 96kg, ref. todays Age, story that with now King and a resurfacing Michael Gardiner, St. Kilda are eyeing off FFWD for Kossie, after the retirement of Gehrig. Luke @197cm, and 94kg 12 months ago, and only 21 next May. His basketball background, and his consequent athleticism, certainly allows a KP as as option, regardless of how the coaching staff pigeon hole him at this VERY early stage of his football CAREER. ......................I do however agree with your 'Go Hawks'I am sick and tired of reading and hearing all this rubbish about ruckmen playing KPB. If anyone seriously thinks that a Robbie Campbell or a Brent Renouf or a Luke McEntee or any other big blonk could possible have the aerobic capacity to keep up with and shut down a Nick Riewoldt, Jonathon Brown, Barry Hall....i shant go further. If anyone can tell me that a ruckman can do such a thing I will eat their dirty rotten smelly filthy jocks. Please will these people wake up to themselves and stop talking and thinking such crap. Have a nice day
PS. Go hawks.
Brad Sewell, Robert Campbell, Tim Boyle and Ben McGlynn would care to differ.
Even if it works it would be the exception rather than the rule.
David Hale and Josh Fraser pinch hit as KP forwards. Dont reckon either work that well. Renouf came to us with a history of playing CHB and has the tank. Not sure if he has the ball handling skills.
King, Gardiner and Kossie now that is a list of robust players if I have ever saw one.
With kosi, your example is considerably different.
Kosi was selected 1 or 2, in the national draft, and, he won the Rising Star award as a CHB. Therefore, it didn't take a great deal of imagination to play him forward in a kp role.
McEntee has always played as a ruck since coming from his basketball background. Playing a kp role, takes a great deal of understanding, and the fact Kosi played much of his jnr's as a kp allowed him to transcend into the AFL playing kp roles.
I believe today's the day when rookie promotions must be finalized.
(Strong tip he's being promoted)
(Strong tip he's being promoted)
Ive heard from reliable sources that McEntee has been promoted and Suckling was offered a second year, whilst Collins and Gibson werent. Just working on trying to find a link to the story.
Thanks BF Fan, have you got a link to anything confirming it, i cant seem to find anything despite it becoming pretty common knowledge.
I was also very surprised that Suckling got a second year, especially when considering Gibson and Collins were shown the door.
Suckling previously rejected an offer from the Swans to enter the Draft.
Perhaps there was some form of handshake agreement regarding his tenure at Hawthorn.
Hawthorn knew he was suffering badly from OP and that he would have little or no playing time until mid season.
As it turned out with no pre season to speak of he was unable to get going until the very end of the year.
Perhaps there was some form of handshake agreement regarding his tenure at Hawthorn.
Hawthorn knew he was suffering badly from OP and that he would have little or no playing time until mid season.
As it turned out with no pre season to speak of he was unable to get going until the very end of the year.
Renouf could very much play a key position back.I am sick and tired of reading and hearing all this rubbish about ruckmen playing KPB. If anyone seriously thinks that a Robbie Campbell or a Brent Renouf or a Luke McEntee or any other big blonk could possible have the aerobic capacity to keep up with and shut down a Nick Riewoldt, Jonathon Brown, Barry Hall....i shant go further. If anyone can tell me that a ruckman can do such a thing I will eat their dirty rotten smelly filthy jocks. Please will these people wake up to themselves and stop talking and thinking such crap. Have a nice day
PS. Go hawks.
There aren't many key position players who can both, but there are some. Darcy, Ottens, Thompson, would be three that come to mind that were originally key position/ruck types.
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I agree, obsessedhawkfan must not have seen his draft camp stats.
Speed, endurance, vertical jump and is 200cm (crap kick).
Did Nick Riewoldt have better draft camp stats?
I hope his kicking does improve, and surely height must be valued even more with the hand in back rule (a plus to Dawson).
Some of us will be right, and some won't.
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Hawks finalise playing list
12:11 PM Wed 31 October, 2007 | Back
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The Hawthorn Football Club today finalised its playing list ahead of the AFL’s National, Pre-season and Rookie drafts.
Second year rookie Luke McEntee has been promoted to the primary list for 2008 while Matt Suckling has been offered a second year rookie contract.
Other 2007 rookies Brett Collins and Sam Gibson have been delisted but have been offered the opportunity to train with the Club over the summer in a bid to be re-drafted in the December Rookie Draft.
Other changes to the Hawthorn list include the delistings of Matt Little and Josh Thurgood and the retirements of Richie Vandenberg, Ben Dixon and Joel Smith.
Hawthorn has three selections in the November AFL National Draft (picks 12, 29, 45) and four selections in the Rookie Draft (picks 11, 27, 43, 59).
12:11 PM Wed 31 October, 2007 | Back
for hawthornfc.com.au
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The Hawthorn Football Club today finalised its playing list ahead of the AFL’s National, Pre-season and Rookie drafts.
Second year rookie Luke McEntee has been promoted to the primary list for 2008 while Matt Suckling has been offered a second year rookie contract.
Other 2007 rookies Brett Collins and Sam Gibson have been delisted but have been offered the opportunity to train with the Club over the summer in a bid to be re-drafted in the December Rookie Draft.
Other changes to the Hawthorn list include the delistings of Matt Little and Josh Thurgood and the retirements of Richie Vandenberg, Ben Dixon and Joel Smith.
Hawthorn has three selections in the November AFL National Draft (picks 12, 29, 45) and four selections in the Rookie Draft (picks 11, 27, 43, 59).
great news for Luke
No sorry, you obviously didn't read my thread.
Darcy was never effective as a key forward.
Ottens best football, particulalrly this yea, has been as a ruck.
Thompson played a lot of his jnr football as a kp, in fact as in our reserves where he was drafted from. As I said before, playing kp requires a fair amount of experience and devlopment in that position, which McEntee hasn't had since he's gone from basketballer to ruckman, and he doesn't have the time - he's gotta make it now!
As for McEntee's promotion, a fine decision, and congratualtions to the boy; hopefully it leads to a long career.
