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[TENACIOUS]

Which brings us back to did we let go of Levi too soon? Wouldn’t he be better depth to Schache in three positions?

Alas we do need to find someone like a Levi - serviceable and OK playing mostly VFL.


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Find all the Schache is soft discussion amusing, he’d kick all our asses and WalshistheGOAT grandfather

He certainly has limitations, but is a decent role player… could we get him to start crashing packs with the right development, maybe, though probably not… We could probably improve his marking like we did Pittonet…

He is very good at drawing his defender away from the contest and has elite skills…

Levi was the complete opposite, crashed packs, drew his defender into the contest and had diabolical kicking skills…

Not to fussed if it’s Schache or someone else, but IMO we need another KPF to release Curnow to 3rd tall forward…

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Find all the Schache is soft discussion amusing, he’d kick all our asses and WalshistheGOAT grandfather

He certainly has limitations, but is a decent role player… could we get him to start crashing packs with the right development, maybe, though probably not… We could probably improve his marking like we did Pittonet…

He is very good at drawing his defender away from the contest and has elite skills…

Levi was the complete opposite, crashed packs, drew his defender into the contest and had diabolical kicking skills…

Not to fussed if it’s Schache or someone else, but IMO we need another KPF to release Curnow to 3rd tall forward…

Hey hey! Never doubt an 83 year old man named Donald. My brother learnt that the hard way last christmas when he tried dancing down the pitch on his unintentional wrongun

 

[Blue train 28]

Would we have a look at Lachie hunter ? Adding Hunter left footer and acres to our wings would be pretty good ? Pick 28 and 62 for lachie and we get him and 65?

 

[slashin_velvet]

One factor everyone seems to be overlooking is the correlation between similar haircuts and teamwork.

Round 1, most players still had short hair from the Docherty trim they did, but as the season progressed and hair grew out, each player went back to their own identity, and our team cohesiveness dropped off. Something to really think about....

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

One factor everyone seems to be overlooking is the correlation between similar haircuts and teamwork.

Round 1, most players still had short hair from the Docherty trim they did, but as the season progressed and hair grew out, each player went back to their own identity, and our team cohesiveness dropped off. Something to really think about....

So what you're saying is...

We go in as 22 eggheads and we win the flag?

 

[AB_Blue]

Would we have a look at Lachie hunter ? Adding Hunter left footer and acres to our wings would be pretty good ? Pick 28 and 62 for lachie and we get him and 65?

Hunter would be on a decent long term deal

Would be a massive upgrade on a wing but we have committed to Acres and wouldn’t have the salary cap room for both

I reckon we are taking our first and second round picks the draft


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[DangerousD]

The same could be said for any player in the comp. the reality is that it isn't likely to happen.
What about his game has you thinking that he's worthwhile?

A third Tall/back up who is perceived as bad yet averages a goal a game, that’s a good base to improve on. His first season at the dogs he got 24 goals.

Not every forward in the comp averages over a goal a game, he’s capable of achieving 1.5 goals a game, we know this because he has done it.

 

[KohPhi]

As long as he draws a defender, that might be enough for us. We'd have (ideally) either Charlie or H available. Just need to avoid having them constantly double teamed.

If Schache is left unattended, he is more than capable of taking a mark and kicking straight.

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It is a good point, and at face value makes perfect sense.
But I also think Harry and Charlie being double teamed has more concerning reasons.
We need pace in the midfield and better delivery into our FWD 50. It only takes a second or two for an elite defender to read the play and intercept, or get into a position to double team. Now add another second for a 'slower' mid (in pace and/or decision making) and it really is money for jam for these blokes to double team our big forwards.

I reckon adding some pace to the Geelong side, and tweaking the game plan to suit was the Premiership difference for them.. and could be for us.

 

[Justnetime]

At least when we went for all GWS players they had some hype about them Before they failed. All these doggy players don’t even have hype. If anyone of them were worth going for then Geelong would pick them up as Wells is a genius.

Austin could do worse than hire a private investigator to trail wells.

 

[katmanblue]

Doggies crying out for forwards and contemplating Lobb from Freo. So they have had Schache at their club. They have been dying for a second forward and they are willing to let him go.

That is enough for me. If his on field persona and actions were more forceful, then maybe, but they aren’t. Passenger with capital P.

Doggies need a key back. They let Young go.

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[Blue train 28]

Would we look at another experience mid like Matt crouch

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29

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183cm

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85kg

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Mid

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28.4

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12.0

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16.4

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3.3

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3.9

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4.8

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24.9

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9.7

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15.1

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2.4

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2.4

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4.4

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21.2

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10.4

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10.8

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

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2.0

4star

would cost bugger all and Voss might be able to get him back to his best. One of our picks in the 60s would get it done.

 

[katmanblue]

Would we look at another experience mid like Matt crouch

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Matt Crouch

Age

29

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183cm

Wt

85kg

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Mid

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Last 5

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28.4

5star

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12.0

4star

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16.4

5star

M

3.3

3star

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3.9

5star

CL

4.8

5star

D

24.9

5star

K

9.7

4star

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15.1

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.2

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

2.0

4star

would cost bugger all and Voss might be able to get him back to his best. One of our picks in the 60s would get it done.

What about the cap hit? Wouldn't be cheap.

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[Justnetime]

Doggies need a key back. They let Young go.

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I’m personally not sold on Young yet. Was very good but when he lost his confidence for a few games I was like…where has this dude gone.

Want to see him back it up then I’m on board. I think he has got the body/ability but personality wise just seems like he would be better off at a magic the gathering meet-up.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I’m personally not sold on Young yet. Was very good but when he lost his confidence for a few games I was like…where has this dude gone.

Want to see him back it up then I’m on board. I think he has got the body/ability but personality wise just seems like he would be better off at a magic the gathering meet-up.

Must remember he is actually still very Young (Pardon the pun) he's only 23 and played about 40 odd games. He'll mature like anyone else and with that hopefully a bit more aggression and consistency

 

[blue healer]

Would we look at another experience mid like Matt crouch would cost bugger all and Voss might be able to get him back to his best. One of our picks in the 60s would get it done.

Ed Curnow costs us less than Crouch. If we need another experienced mid I reckon he's right here already and will be one of the least paid players on our list.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

It is a good point, and at face value makes perfect sense.
But I also think Harry and Charlie being double teamed has more concerning reasons.
We need pace in the midfield and better delivery into our FWD 50. It only takes a second or two for an elite defender to read the play and intercept, or get into a position to double team. Now add another second for a 'slower' mid (in pace and/or decision making) and it really is money for jam for these blokes to double team our big forwards.

I reckon adding some pace to the Geelong side, and tweaking the game plan to suit was the Premiership difference for them.. and could be for us.

Paddy Dow...welcome to your new AFL position.
There's more chance of a fast player learning to be more defensive than a slow player adding speed to their game.

But which of our favoured slow midfielders do we trade out?

 

[Accidental genius]

Our flag window is around next 5 years or so. We’ve gotta get cracking in filling the positions currently in need.

So what are these positions?

Full back: Is young going to develop adequately to hold this position? SDurdin to develop as cover? New trade?

Ruck: tdk/pitto ?? Can’t see pitto developing too much more. He’s just about at his ceiling. Tdk needs to develop and has time on his side.

Tall forward: tdk/new trade? Tdk as above in this role. Who could/should we trade in? Someone like a Schache as depth to cover injuries and anticipate tdk to fill this role?

 

[Coona Blues]

Doggies crying out for forwards and contemplating Lobb from Freo. So they have had Schache at their club. They have been dying for a second forward and they are willing to let him go.

That is enough for me. If his on field persona and actions were more forceful, then maybe, but they aren’t. Passenger with capital P.

Yeah Lobb to the Kennell is perplexing. Darcy looks like a star, Ugle-Hagan coming in to his own as a third tall, and Naughton the banker. The cost is ridiculous when considering where they are at. Freo doing them a favour by blocking it.

 

[CJMB]

One factor everyone seems to be overlooking is the correlation between similar haircuts and teamwork.

Round 1, most players still had short hair from the Docherty trim they did, but as the season progressed and hair grew out, each player went back to their own identity, and our team cohesiveness dropped off. Something to really think about....

This has some real ‘Yeh Goodboy Goodboy Good Footy Energies’ about it…

 

[CJMB]

It is a good point, and at face value makes perfect sense.
But I also think Harry and Charlie being double teamed has more concerning reasons.
We need pace in the midfield and better delivery into our FWD 50. It only takes a second or two for an elite defender to read the play and intercept, or get into a position to double team. Now add another second for a 'slower' mid (in pace and/or decision making) and it really is money for jam for these blokes to double team our big forwards.

I reckon adding some pace to the Geelong side, and tweaking the game plan to suit was the Premiership difference for them.. and could be for us.

Definitely the case from how I see it.

With us it’s also having the players on field who can take those more adventurous kicks that open the game up.

Gov, Williams, Boyd, Martin, Newman (not quick but is experienced and takes some of those kicks) & Acres coming in (replacing a Newnes/Setters on the wing).

They’re some ‘difference makers’ to our setup (re: speed, pressure, kicking) that missed a bit of the season.

Also Cuningham has all the potential in the world if he can get on the park.

I like the idea of our smalls being Motlop (goal sneak), Durdin (pressure fwd) and Fisher (HHF), plus Martin as a medium fwd and the 3 talls.

Walsh missing hurts our centre run, and hopefully Cerra gets some continuity so we can reap the benefits of his two way running and good kicking.

Also being year 2, there’s going to be a fair bit less of the experimenting and tinkering with the team structure and balance. You’d imagine Voss has a better idea of where the magnets are best places come 2023.

 

[Coops93]

The only thing that makes me curious about Schache with us is that he'd be the third tall and nowhere close to the no.1 or 2 target in the attacking 50. He's quite clearly shown he's not a no.1 and probably at best is a no.2, but as a 3 maybe the lack of attention will allow him to only need to play to his strengths.

 

[KohPhi]

Definitely the case from how I see it.

With us it’s also having the players on field who can take those more adventurous kicks that open the game up.

Gov, Williams, Boyd, Martin, Newman (not quick but is experienced and takes some of those kicks) & Acres coming in (replacing a Newnes/Setters on the wing).

They’re some ‘difference makers’ to our setup (re: speed, pressure, kicking) that missed a bit of the season.

Also Cuningham has all the potential in the world if he can get on the park.

I like the idea of our smalls being Motlop (goal sneak), Durdin (pressure fwd) and Fisher (HHF), plus Martin as a medium fwd and the 3 talls.

Walsh missing hurts our centre run, and hopefully Cerra gets some continuity so we can reap the benefits of his two way running and good kicking.

Also being year 2, there’s going to be a fair bit less of the experimenting and tinkering with the team structure and balance. You’d imagine Voss has a better idea of where the magnets are best places come 2023.

Spot on...
It's why we don't need to hit the trade market too deep.. The players you mentioned are there, they just either need to get on the park, or in the case of Motlop, Durdin and Boyd get another 15-20 games into them.

 

[Coops93]

Find all the Schache is soft discussion amusing, he’d kick all our asses and WalshistheGOAT grandfather

He certainly has limitations, but is a decent role player… could we get him to start crashing packs with the right development, maybe, though probably not… We could probably improve his marking like we did Pittonet…

He is very good at drawing his defender away from the contest and has elite skills…

Levi was the complete opposite, crashed packs, drew his defender into the contest and had diabolical kicking skills…

Not to fussed if it’s Schache or someone else, but IMO we need another KPF to release Curnow to 3rd tall forward…

It's all relative, and relative to being a key forward target in the AFL system Schache is soft, there's no 2 ways about it. Just because he'd run through a bunch of nerds posting on a forum doesn't mean he's a hard as nails AFL full forward.

It's a bit late to turn him from a finesse, find space/lead up target into a big bustling pack crashing tall forward. He is what he is more or less at this point. We won't be signing up Schache to turn him into a wrestling mauler inside 50. Like you say best case is a bit of a Pittonet and can improve come contested marking.

As for Charlie being 3rd tall, no matter how we play him he's getting key defender no.1 or 2, so it won't really free him up. He'll still be target 1a/b on the whiteboard for every backline every week. Schache will take 0 attention away from the 2 big guns, which will be good for him for sure.

 

[TENACIOUS]

Doesn’t fit the experience criteria, but If Betts rumours of wanting to come back and coach are true… I’d be all over Sydney Stack

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Sydney Stack

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24

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179cm

Wt

75kg

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Def

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15.5

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6.8

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8.7

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4.1

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3.0

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202.0

3star

D

9.8

2star

K

3.4

1star

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6.4

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

2.8

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133.0

2star

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16.2

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K

7.2

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9.0

5star

M

5.6

5star

T

3.0

5star

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227.4

4star

, is still unsigned and has possibly been delisted …

 

[ETET]

I believe Kemp is a better option forward than Schache..I still remember this years pre season game where he looked better forward than anytime he has played down back.