MRP / Trib. Jeremy Cameron makes contact with umpire while celebrating a goal

[Gavin Excell]

So funny Cats fans on this thread accusing me of being a troll yet none of them want to discuss this subject seriously. Says it all really.

Should he be charged? If so, with what? What sort of penalty should he get if any? Is there a precedent to a player unintentionally charging into an umpire while celebrating a goal? Soligo copped a fine last week for a light tough of the Goal Ump's arm after kicking a goal. So flattening a boundary umpire because you were not watching where you were running in celebrating a goal has to be worth something, surely?

I think it's more a reflection on you and your posting history

 

[The_Todd07]

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

This is just not true.

Completely untrue.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Have you tried aspirin for your geelong obsessions??

Geelong going 0-3 was something of a panacea.

Here is the Martin "precedent."



Understandable Cats fans would want him rubbed out for kicking contested goals.

 

[melbun]

Too many umpires on the field.
How are you supposed to dodge them all?

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Geelong going 0-3 was something of a panacea.

Here is the Martin "precedent."



Understandable Cats fans would want him rubbed out for kicking contested goals.

Nobody needs Martin rubbed out. He is a very ordinary footballer now.

I tried to tell some new Japanese tourists watching footy at the bulldogs game “ there are a small fanbase who say that’s the GOAT”.. you should have seen the disbelief and laughter they directed at these people.

I was told “I am dishonoring game” saying such things

 

[GastevsBeard]

we all know its based on the outcome. Umpire was fine so no case to answer

If umpire was concussed, 100% straight to tribunal Lunch style

 

[STPer18]

Ruined a fair few Easter weekends from the sounds of things on BigFooty.com.

 

[Ricky Vaughn]

Gave an umpire a cuddle, which I agree is reprehensible.

8 weeks.

 

[JP2]

I'm sure it would have been a suspension in the past, but I'm not sure exactly what the rules are governing contact are. As far as I can tell, there no clear rules about what constitutes prohibitive umpire contact, but Michael Christian said in 2018 that this was the interpretation they would run with going forward:

“At match review level we have decided to interpret those guidelines for intentional umpire contact as being when a player disrespectfully, aggressively, dismissively or indeed forcefully intentionally touches an umpire,” Christian said.

I don't think any of those would apply to Cameron, and I can't find any provisions for "careless" umpire contact, which suggests that he's probably going to be fine unless they decide to invent a new precedent on the spot.

EDIT:

No wait, I found it on p. 7 of the tribunal guidelines. "Careless Contact with an Umpire" is a $1500 fine for a first offence.

https://resources.afl.com.au/afl/document/2021/03/22/221593f5-9b5b-46c7-b038-b032283fcd41/2021-AFL-Tribunal-Guidelines.pdf

 

[geelong_crazy26]

I'm sure it would have been a suspension in the past, but I'm not sure exactly what the rules are governing contact are. As far as I can tell, there no clear rules about what constitutes prohibitive umpire contact, but Michael Christian said in 2018 that this was the interpretation they would run with going forward:



I don't think any of those would apply to Cameron, and I can't find any provisions for "careless" umpire contact, which suggests that he's probably going to be fine unless they decide to invent a new precedent on the spot.

It’s just a few obsessive Richmond trolls as usual carrying on about geelong. Will be nothing

 

[Grockadoc]

I'm sure it would have been a suspension in the past, but I'm not sure exactly what the rules are governing contact are. As far as I can tell, there no clear rules about what constitutes prohibitive umpire contact, but Michael Christian said in 2018 that this was the interpretation they would run with going forward:



I don't think any of those would apply to Cameron, and I can't find any provisions for "careless" umpire contact, which suggests that he's probably going to be fine unless they decide to invent a new precedent on the spot.

Probably gets a fine. There is a fixed financial sanction for Careless Contactwith an umpire which is $1500 for a first offence. This is absolutely careless on Cameron's part as without an over-exuberant celebration or actually looking at the field rather than the crowd whislt celebrating, he doesn't make contact with the ump.

$1500 fine should be what he gets.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

I think it's more a reflection on you and your posting history

Why would my illustrious posting history cause Cats fans to be trolls? I don't understand GE.

 

[z547043]

Can someone explain to me, apart from the teams involved, why this incident has 50 replies and a three page thread and a deliberate knee to a defenceless player in a ruck contest, which the AFL has already said they want out of the game, has no thread?

 

[Bearded Clam]

Hopefully common sense prevails

It’s the AFL… there’s literally no fxxkn chance of that!

 

[STPer18]

Can someone explain to me, apart from the teams involved, why this incident has 50 replies and a three page thread and a deliberate knee to a defenceless player in a ruck contest, which the AFL has already said they want out of the game has no thread?

Starts with G and ends with eelong.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Nobody needs Martin rubbed out. He is a very ordinary footballer now.

I tried to tell some new Japanese tourists watching footy at the bulldogs game “ there are a small fanbase who say that’s the GOAT”.. you should have seen the disbelief and laughter they directed at these people.

I was told “I am dishonoring game” saying such things

Ok so Cats fan claiming Martin is not the GOAT and quotes Japanese tourists who have never seen the sport before as authority. That really adds to the "no" side of that debate GC.

 

[Stax on the mill]

Reckless, high, umpire was injured and clearly traumatised. That Western Bulldogs guy, (Todd Curley) got 4 weeks in 2006 for accidentally bumping an umpire. No harm done. Greatest travesty against commonsense that was.

Cameron should get 2 weeks at least.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Gave an umpire a cuddle, which I agree is reprehensible.

8 weeks.

Did he deliberately touch an umpire by cuddling him? This is getting worse...

 

[Meteoric Rise]

I'm sure it would have been a suspension in the past, but I'm not sure exactly what the rules are governing contact are. As far as I can tell, there no clear rules about what constitutes prohibitive umpire contact, but Michael Christian said in 2018 that this was the interpretation they would run with going forward:



I don't think any of those would apply to Cameron, and I can't find any provisions for "careless" umpire contact, which suggests that he's probably going to be fine unless they decide to invent a new precedent on the spot.

EDIT:

No wait, I found it on p. 7 of the tribunal guidelines. "Careless Contact with an Umpire" is a $1500 fine for a first offence.

https://resources.afl.com.au/afl/document/2021/03/22/221593f5-9b5b-46c7-b038-b032283fcd41/2021-AFL-Tribunal-Guidelines.pdf

See the Hipwood case above. Got a $2500 fine for carelessly causing umpire contact.

 

[Bearded Clam]

“**** could be in strife here, I’d better pretend I’m hurt from that”

Looks like the umps knee cops him right in the nuts..

every bloke knows there always that 5 second delay between the nuts being struck and the pain hitting!..

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Ok so Cats fan claiming Martin is not the GOAT and quotes Japanese tourists who have never seen the sport before as authority. That really adds to the "no" side of that debate GC.

Just a great big laugh that a player who is so average out there is considered GOAT by a few. The bloke is lucky to be a B grader anymore

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Probably gets a fine. There is a fixed financial sanction for Careless Contactwith an umpire which is $1500 for a first offence. This is absolutely careless on Cameron's part as without an over-exuberant celebration or actually looking at the field rather than the crowd whislt celebrating, he doesn't make contact with the ump.

$1500 fine should be what he gets.

This was not some light contact the player caused carelessly though Groc. He straight out flattened the ump and there was extremely high potential to cause injury.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Why would my illustrious posting history cause Cats fans to be trolls? I don't understand GE.

In simple terms, I think it's because you are a Tiger flog

 

[Grockadoc]

Just a great big laugh that a player who is so average out there is considered GOAT by a few. The bloke is lucky to be a B grader anymore

He isn't alone in that regard. Danger a B Grader now as well.