MRP / Trib. James Sicily - 3 weeks for dangerous tackle - SUSPENSION STANDS!

[Lotus]

I've never seen everyone so united before.

They should just banned tackling all together.

 

[Stranglers]

Obviously the tackle is going the same way as the bump - you can do it, but you are responsible for any outcome regardless of due care.

The sooner Gil ****s off the better, been an absolute blight on the game.

 

[Bugs1977]

Hawthorn

Legit chance to win all 3 with him.

Damn near impossible without him.

Such an important player.

If we'd won against GWS and Adelaide like we should have, this next set of games could have been our finals chances on the line. And we wouldn't have our captain and most important player there for it because of a tackle he won a free kick for.

There's a bit of homework for everyone. I challenge you to find one free kick in the history of the AFL / VFL where a player has gone from being awarded a free kick in a play to then being suspended for 1 or weeks in the same play. This surely has to be a first

I'm usually a pretty positive guy so I'll be calling on that from myself but geez I'll have to dig deep into my bag of positivity for this one.

 

[jenniferHAWKinS]

How does a tackle go from a free kick to Sicily to a 3 week suspension??? Let that sink in.

 

[Gaston]

why didn't he just get a 1 or 2 weeks like every other tackle?
amazing how corrupt f**ks can't read the room and understand that their actions are so transparent.

 

[hawkman]

Entire supporter base should boycott the North game in Round 18

Would completely embarrass the AFL at the ground they own when only 8,000 North supporters turn up

 

[Paul Kersey]

Tag Neitz and Radan in the AFL instagram post. Let them know what you think of their poor decision.

 

[f4zz]

Oh yeah not like we got an expert or anything to suggest Brocky did cause Sicily to lose control.

Tribunal's reasons for decision:

Sicily clung on and rotated McCluggage across his body. Tyler Brockman leapt across the back of the rotating McCluggage and made contact with him.

Sicily kept clinging onto McCluggage and kept rotating him. We do not accept Brockman’s involvement caused an otherwise safe tackle to be dangerous.

Sicily continuing to rotate McCluggage, pulling him down on his left arm and pinning his left arm caused this tackle to be dangerous.

He could’ve released the left arm. Had he done so, McCluggage would not have been rotated across his body into the ground with such force.

Accordingly, we find this was a dangerous tackle.

We do not accept that there are exceptional and compelling circumstances here. Two matters were raised.

As to the first, it may be that Brockman’s involvement changed the force of the impact, but we can't be sufficiently satisfied as to the extent. If Brockman wasn't there, McCluggage would’ve still been rotated into the ground with force.

As to the second, we accept without hesitation Sicily was remorseful and immediately quite shaken by the injury to McCluggage he did not intend.

This does not constitute exceptional and compelling circumstances.

We impose a sanction of three weeks’ suspension.


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MUST APPEAL ON THE GROUNDS OF UTTER BULLSHIT!!!!!

AND ALL THIS OCCURRED IN 1.04 SEC OF ACTION.....GAGF AFL!!!

Tribunals reasoning itself is pathetic. They cannot prove without a doubt had brockman not been there that the tackle would have cause this incident. They are merely clutching at straws here. WOW.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Hawthorn

There's a bit of homework for everyone. I challenge you to find one free kick in the history of the AFL / VFL where a player has gone from being awarded a free kick in a play to then being suspended for 1 or weeks in the same play. This surely has to be a first

I'm usually a pretty positive guy so I'll be calling on that from myself but geez I'll have to dig deep into my bag of positivity for this one.

SOmeone else (main board thread) mentioned that Tom Jonas was suspended earlier this year for what appeared to be a reasonable tackle which won the free kick. He got 1 week.

 

[TylerDurden]

The Sicily Tax in full swing.

 

[Sleutheren]

Entire supporter base should boycott the North game in Round 18

Would completely embarrass the AFL at the ground they own when only 8,000 North supporters turn up

There really needs to be a push like this. There needs to be a revolt.

 

[Bugs1977]

Tribunal's reasons for decision:

Sicily clung on and rotated McCluggage across his body. Tyler Brockman leapt across the back of the rotating McCluggage and made contact with him.

Sicily kept clinging onto McCluggage and kept rotating him. We do not accept Brockman’s involvement caused an otherwise safe tackle to be dangerous.

Sicily continuing to rotate McCluggage, pulling him down on his left arm and pinning his left arm caused this tackle to be dangerous.

He could’ve released the left arm. Had he done so, McCluggage would not have been rotated across his body into the ground with such force.

Accordingly, we find this was a dangerous tackle.

We do not accept that there are exceptional and compelling circumstances here. Two matters were raised.

As to the first, it may be that Brockman’s involvement changed the force of the impact, but we can't be sufficiently satisfied as to the extent. If Brockman wasn't there, McCluggage would’ve still been rotated into the ground with force.

As to the second, we accept without hesitation Sicily was remorseful and immediately quite shaken by the injury to McCluggage he did not intend.

This does not constitute exceptional and compelling circumstances.

We impose a sanction of three weeks’ suspension.


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MUST APPEAL ON THE GROUNDS OF UTTER BULLSHIT!!!!!

AND ALL THIS OCCURRED IN 1.04 SEC OF ACTION.....GAGF AFL!!!

If that's their argument / explanation then I'd definitely be challenging it. The time of the tackle was only around 2 seconds at best. No person on Earth has that time of reaction time. I'd be challenging it if not just to get overruled but to at least get it downgraded a week and to show Sicily the club has got his back.

 

[hawkman]

If that's their argument / explanation then I'd definitely be challenging it. The time of the tackle was only around 2 seconds at best. No person on Earth has that time of reaction time. I'd be challenging it if not just to get overruled but to at least get it downgraded a week and to show Sicily the club has got his back.

1.04 seconds

 

[moginie]

The reasoning is just as moronic.

Tribunal's reasons for decision:



Sicily clung on and rotated McCluggage across his body. Tyler Brockman leapt across the back of the rotating McCluggage and made contact with him.



Sicily kept clinging onto McCluggage and kept rotating him. We do not accept Brockman’s involvement caused an otherwise safe tackle to be dangerous.



Sicily continuing to rotate McCluggage, pulling him down on his left arm and pinning his left arm caused this tackle to be dangerous.



He could’ve released the left arm. Had he done so, McCluggage would not have been rotated across his body into the ground with such force.



Accordingly, we find this was a dangerous tackle.



We do not accept that there are exceptional and compelling circumstances here. Two matters were raised.



As to the first, it may be that Brockman’s involvement changed the force of the impact, but we can't be sufficiently satisfied as to the extent. If Brockman wasn't there, McCluggage would’ve still been rotated into the ground with force.



As to the second, we accept without hesitation Sicily was remorseful and immediately quite shaken by the injury to McCluggage he did not intend.



This does not constitute exceptional and compelling circumstances.



We impose a sanction of three weeks’ suspension.

They had a set penalty already in mind and nothing inconvenient, like facts or expert evidence was going to change that.

They are just plain evil.

 

[Crankyhawk]

There really needs to be a push like this. There needs to be a revolt.

start by cancelling any afl membership one has,, club memberships only from now on.

 

[Dazza the Viking]

Only reason Butler got off was Blakey wasn’t concussed in the incident, if Blakey was concussed he would of got rubbed out

Basically you tackle someone and they get concussed your going to get rubbed out, no matter what the circumstances were

 

[Crankyhawk]

If that's their argument / explanation then I'd definitely be challenging it. The time of the tackle was only around 2 seconds at best. No person on Earth has that time of reaction time. I'd be challenging it if not just to get overruled but to at least get it downgraded a week and to show Sicily the club has got his back.

they need to transparently say "we are doing this off outcome" so at least one knows any football action leading to a concussion = 1 week at least.
of course, watch for the Bont/ Dangerfield discount...

****ing corrupt organisation is the afl

 

[Bugs1977]

Obviously the tackle is going the same way as the bump - you can do it, but you are responsible for any outcome regardless of due care.

The sooner Gil *s off the better, been an absolute blight on the game.

IMO this is just like the AFL washing their hands of Racism saga. They are clearly covering their own a$$es for any future concussion lawsuits. Looking 10-15 years down the road if McCluggae or others were to have any lingering concussion issues then they can point back to this moment and say we've done everything in our power to make it all as safe as possible.

 

[cs61]

How does a tackle go from a free kick to Sicily to a 3 week suspension??? Let that sink in.

Can you imagine any other sport where that happens? It is actually a complete embarrassment to the AFL.

 

[Bugs1977]

SOmeone else (main board thread) mentioned that Tom Jonas was suspended earlier this year for what appeared to be a reasonable tackle which won the free kick. He got 1 week.

Love to see the video of that to compare

 

[Rhayader]

w

why didn't he just get a 1 or 2 weeks like every other tackle?
amazing how corrupt f**ks can't read the room and understand that their actions are so transparent.

I suspect the severity of the impact/injury meant it was either going to be three weeks or none. The tribunal was really deciding whether the tackle/action was suspendable or not.

Hopefully the club appeals this one, the tribunal’s reasoning seems pretty flimsy…

 

[Kuuz]

What an abysmal outcome.

That jury should hang their heads - they've absolutely stitched up Sic, and as a result, slowly ruining core aspects of the game.

AFL needs to get its house in order and actually take a position. At least feels like most of the media seem as pissed at the decision, so that's a first.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Tried tagging neither and radan in a post - deleted after 2 mins.
The league working overtime to control the narrative

I posted "hope the dirty money was worth it because you just ensured the death of the game"

 

[Wingnut19]

Utterly speechless. The game has gone down hill big time, all under the worst AFL CEO of all time, Gil. He is a disgrace. Gonna be hard to remain interested at this rate.

 

[extractasam]

IMO this is just like the AFL washing their hands of Racism saga. They are clearly covering their own a$$es for any future concussion lawsuits. Looking 10-15 years down the road if McCluggae or others were to have any lingering concussion issues then they can point back to this moment and say we've done everything in our power to make it all as safe as possible.

I get this angle for sure, but then why the 3 weeks?

It’s all a wank cause you know that if the same happens in a prelim, nobody’s getting rubbed out for it