News Jackson Hately requests trade to Adelaide

[1970crow]

Ffs

1:13 shows dermie running into the centre alongside the chb and being cleaned up By Yates coming at 45 degrees.

 

[Sanders]

Dermie started at CHF and started jogging the centre. Yates came off the wing. I never said dermie was jogging with Yates, I said dermie was jogging with his opponent.

Look at the video, Brereton was going nowhere and after no one. Pole axed completely by surprise and out of nowhere

 

[Sanders]

1:13 shows dermie running into the centre alongside the chb and being cleaned up.

running?

running?

C’mon.

 

[FR0GGY]

I reckon you’re both half right.
Didn’t look like he had any intention to take anyone out.
But he certainly wasn’t stationary.
How’s that for fence sitting?

 

[1970crow]

Look at the video, Brereton was going nowhere and after no one. Pole axed completely by surprise and out of nowhere

Ive looked at the video, dermie wasn't stationary, he was very clearly running towards the contest. This video he talks of his change of mind to run in, nothing about taking out a player as he's said elsewhere. He was running into the contest.

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[1970crow]

running?

running?

C’mon.

Closer than calling that stationary.

 

[Golumless]

Dusty won the Norm Smith, but it was their rebound from our 50 that won them the game.

Houli was far more important for the win and BOG in my view.

I said to the guys I was watching the game with in the middle of the second quarter we will lose once I noticed this.


It was the worst F50 pressure of the year and a sign the players felt the win would come.

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I disagree with the "sign the players felt the win would come" comment. We selected that way. Walker, Jenkins, Lynch, Otten as tall forwards is putting a lot of stress on Cameron, Knight and Betts to provide defensive pressure. Whereas at least McGovern was capable defensively.

Replacing McGovern with Otten was one of the dumbest moves we could have made.

 

[1970crow]

I reckon you’re both half right.
Didn’t look like he had any intention to take anyone out.
But he certainly wasn’t stationary.
How’s that for fence sitting?

His stride length was longer than what you'd see when players jog a couple of laps prior to training. There's an argument as to whether that's jogging or what pace above a jog it would be. I can only ever recall jogging, 3/4 and sprint. It's not a jog and it's not a 3/4 run through pace. Argue away as to where it sits. But, what it is NOT, is stationary. Sanders, right as often as he is, is 100% wrong on this.

 

[hey shorty]

I disagree with the "sign the players felt the win would come" comment. We selected that way. Walker, Jenkins, Lynch, Otten as tall forwards is putting a lot of stress on Cameron, Knight and Betts to provide defensive pressure. Whereas at least McGovern was capable defensively.

Replacing McGovern with Otten was one of the dumbest moves we could have made.

It was but I'm not convinced anyone would've made much difference. Eddie had a mare, Charlie got hurt and Knight was pretty ordinary.

 

[Geoffa32]

His stride length was longer than what you'd see when players jog a couple of laps prior to training. There's an argument as to whether that's jogging or what pace above a jog it would be. I can only ever recall jogging, 3/4 and sprint. It's not a jog and it's not a 3/4 run through pace. Argue away as to where it sits. But, what it is NOT, is stationary. Sanders, right as often as he is, is 100% wrong on this.

Pretty stock standard movement from the square towards the centre circle after a bounce for a CHF.

Yeates caught Dermie unawares. Would nit he expecting such a snipe.

The Great Man came back though.....



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[1970crow]

I disagree with the "sign the players felt the win would come" comment. We selected that way. Walker, Jenkins, Lynch, Otten as tall forwards is putting a lot of stress on Cameron, Knight and Betts to provide defensive pressure. Whereas at least McGovern was capable defensively.

Replacing McGovern with Otten was one of the dumbest moves we could have made.

But they were about the same height. What more is there to a 'like for like' replacement?

 

[FR0GGY]

His stride length was longer than what you'd see when players jog a couple of laps prior to training. There's an argument as to whether that's jogging or what pace above a jog it would be. I can only ever recall jogging, 3/4 and sprint. It's not a jog and it's not a 3/4 run through pace. Argue away as to where it sits. But, what it is NOT, is stationary. Sanders, right as often as he is, is 100% wrong on this.

I’m happy to call it a jog

 

[1970crow]

I’m happy to call it a jog

I would be very comfortable betting that when Dermie jogged a couple of laps pre-training, it would be a lot slower that. If there was a 1/2 pace run through, that's where I'd put it. It's not a jog though.

 

[1970crow]

Pretty stock standard movement from the square towards the centre circle after a bounce for a CHF.

Yeates caught Dermie unawares. Would nit he expecting such a snipe.

The Great Man came back though.....



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He wasn't pissed at him because he'd gotten Yeates before and knew he was owed one. He reckons most of his hits were retaliatory, in a helicopter view sense. I watched his talking mike this morning, was good.

 

[FR0GGY]

I would be very comfortable betting that when Dermie jogged a couple of laps pre-training, it would be a lot slower that. If there was a 1/2 pace run through, that's where I'd put it. It's not a jog though.

He was definitely slowing down to a jog

 

[Thetrader15]

He was definitely slowing down to a jog

Perhaps Hatley was the one Dermie was going for

 

[Deaneus!]

It's only a bluff if we a.) don't have the pick or b.) aren't going to use it. What you described above is a 'threat'.

Unrelated, would you like to play poker with me sometime? We can start with matchsticks and work our way up to real money.....

Do they allow that type of thing during your recess break?

If they call our bluff then we will have to use our PSD #1 Pick or lose him!

I will call their bluff? Is that how it works?

So you think the 'bluff' element is that we won't use the pick on Hately, and we would just pretend that we would?

Okay, so a lot of people don't seem to know what a bluff is, so I looked it up. It's

1. a steep cliff, bank, or promontory.

 

[Sanders]

I reckon you’re both half right.
Didn’t look like he had any intention to take anyone out.
But he certainly wasn’t stationary.
How’s that for fence sitting?

no one is ever literally stationary inside the centre square

he wasn’t involved in the play, was well off the play, was waiting to see the play develop and def not even trying to get involved in the play

it was a solid 24K gold sniper king hit

 

[hugecannon]

no one is ever literally stationary inside the centre square

he wasn’t involved in the play, was well off the play, was waiting to see the play develop and def not even trying to get involved in the play

it was a solid 24K gold sniper king hit

have you see our centre square set up at times?

 

[Sanders]

have you see our centre square set up at times?

Ouch! I got nothing

 

[robboaustralia]

This Hately thread is really delivering! Though I was in the 1989 VFL Grand Final thread

 

[1970crow]

He was definitely slowing down to a jog

Seemed to change his mind about where he wanted to go and stopped very quickly.

 

[CutAboveTheRest]

Dusty won the Norm Smith, but it was their rebound from our 50 that won them the game.

Houli was far more important for the win and BOG in my view.

I said to the guys I was watching the game with in the middle of the second quarter we will lose once I noticed this.


It was the worst F50 pressure of the year and a sign the players felt the win would come.

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Absolutely agree with you.. I actually think you could argue Edwards had much more impact on the game than Dusty did in the middle as well.

 

[CutAboveTheRest]

I disagree with the "sign the players felt the win would come" comment. We selected that way. Walker, Jenkins, Lynch, Otten as tall forwards is putting a lot of stress on Cameron, Knight and Betts to provide defensive pressure. Whereas at least McGovern was capable defensively.

Replacing McGovern with Otten was one of the dumbest moves we could have made.

And to this day still believe that decision forced his hand to want to leave. I know people will say he's been a spud at carlton and rightfully so, but he played his best footy playing with us.

Agree with you that it was the dumbest selection moves we could have done.

 

[dogs105]

Seemed to change his mind about where he wanted to go and stopped very quickly.

Stopped very suddenly when the shoulder went through his ribs.