Jacinta Allan - Leading a zombie government

[Ice-Wolf]

Also is the exclusion zone any protest or just protests that are directed at the specific place of worship?

 

[Gralin]

Treasury Gardens and the front of Parliament are fine. They will probably regret somehow not including them

They haven't specified the actual size they've said "like abortion clinic safe zones" which are 150m so could go either way

Also is the exclusion zone any protest or just protests that are directed at the specific place of worship?

Any protest action

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Parliament House doesn’t appear in the exclusion zones on that post you put up.

But FRV No1 station is, that’s gold!!!

There's a Synagogue a few doors down on Albert Street.

They could use this legislation to stop striking workers March.

Say nurses wanted to gather on the steps of parliament house to call for more funding for public hospitals, because visibility and putting pressure on politicians goes hand in hand.

This legislation could be used to stop that action.

It amazes me how happily ignorant people are about what protesting is about and why governments are happily legislating against it.

How much people think it won't impact them in the future.

They could but they won't. Arresting nurses would be a vote killer.

You know what also stops arrests. Showing up in large numbers. Larger protests tend to lead to the outcomes.

 

[Gralin]

There's a Synagogue a few doors down on Albert Street.

They could but they won't. Arresting nurses would be a vote killer.

You know what also stops arrests. Showing up in large numbers. Larger protests tend to lead to the outcomes.

Yes this always the attitude

They'll only use these powers against people I don't like so it's fine.

It never works out that way though but your average Australian seems completely oblivious to this fact so they get to pass the laws with minimal fuss

 

[eddiesmith]

Unusual for the treasurer to come from the upper house

Especially one who has been such a complete failure in her role as Emergency Services minister. I wonder which incompetent moron will get their head on the union dartboard next?

 

[MJG14]

At least it wasn't Danny Pearson, who I don't really rate.

 

[Satan]

At least it wasn't Danny Pearson, who I don't really rate.

Ben carrol says hi

 

[JackFlash]

Finally Jacinta made a correct decision!

 

[The Punter]

Isn't that what I'm arguing?

If it is, then this quote does not make that completely clear:

I couldn't care less about projects running over budget as long as you get what your supposed to out of it.

If you get what you are supposed to get out of it, but it costs twice as much as budgeted, is it still worth it? The statement above leads one to believe you aren't interested in the quantum of the budget overrun. Which is why I asked my question.

 

[The Punter]

FRV Station 1 is across the road from a church.

I would think many people would support the proposed changes because for most people, their only interaction with a protest is not the issue but the inconvenience caused. I totally understand the inconvenience is a design feature of the protest. Doesn't mean most people then don't mind being inconvenienced.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Unusual for the treasurer to come from the upper house

John Lenders under Brumby last time

 

[treeebeard]

Maybe it's time activists figure out other means of getting thier message across and convincing people thier cause is worthwhile.

Yeah, they should just be millionaire political lobbyists. That's much more effective.

 

[hawkman]

John Lenders under Brumby last time

I was aware of that one but it is still unusual

 

[chickenonachain]

Finally Jacinta made a correct decision!

She’s quit as well?

 

[The Punter]

Lily said no

Praise Jesus. A well deserved Christmas present for all Victorians.

 

[Rob R]

Finally Jacinta made a correct decision!

Has she given IBAC its funding and powers.back so it can finally investigate the corruption endemic in the Victorian government?

On SM-A136B using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[DangerousD]

The new "social cohesion" anti protest laws are pretty fashy

Plenty of people cheering on the erosion of democratic rights, the blindly cheering them on because they equate them with something that’s happening now that they dont care about, their tune will change when they are on the receiving end of something crap.

 

[Gralin]

Plenty of people cheering on the erosion of democratic rights, the blindly cheering them on because they equate them with something that’s happening now that they dont care about, their tune will change when they are on the receiving end of something crap.

Yeah very much this
The funny part is the people who called Dan a dictator are strangely quiet on this one

 

[DangerousD]

Yeah very much this
The funny part is the people who called Dan a dictator are strangely quiet on this one

It’s funny, so many times I’ve seen the dictator Dan crowd, or the crowd calling the Labor party communists, call for the overthrow of elected governments, its like they dont even realise they are advocating for authoritarian policies.

 

[Gralin]

It’s funny, so many times I’ve seen the dictator Dan crowd, or the crowd calling the Labor party communists, call for the overthrow of elected governments, its like they dont even realise they are advocating for authoritarian policies.

It's that whole will they use it against me thing.

They think the fash won't target them

 

[treeebeard]

Crazy how many rolled over during covid and thought they wouldn't abuse their power once we were back to normal.

 

[evolved2]

Crazy how many rolled over during covid and thought they wouldn't abuse their power once we were back to normal.

We are a nation that wants to be ruled, and even moreso as a state.

 

[Frank Bunn]

The media will make a big deal out of the upcoming by-elections but Prahran is safe Green and Werribee is safe Labor.

It's almost two years until the next Vic elections. I expect Jacinta Allen will be moved on before that. She has the charisma of a plank of wood and baggage from record debt levels.

 

[Xtreme]

After today's events Labor would be bat shit insane to dump her. It would be like playing Fifa and running the ball into your own net.

Right now she's in the box seat to win just like Donald Trump was in the recent Us Election.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

The media will make a big deal out of the upcoming by-elections but Prahran is safe Green and Werribee is safe Labor.

It's almost two years until the next Vic elections. I expect Jacinta Allen will be moved on before that. She has the charisma of a plank of wood and baggage from record debt levels.

Carroll has more charisma but is too arrogant to be Premier. Werribee is not safe not sure where your getting that information from, Labor's lead in that seat has eroded substantially since 2014. It's the 1 area of Melbourne IMO they will cop a battering due to the lack of progress with infrastructure and amenities. Alot of the electorates out West I think are definitely in play by the next election.