Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack III

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Things are back on track for the israelis in gaza.... plenty of deaths and increasing hunger. All good news for the israeli public. The israeli gov't might set up something like the Oaklahoma Land Rush of 1889, and a mad scramble to get those seaside properties in Gaza...

 

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Christopher Hitchens used to say Zionism is a stupid idea
I think he mainly said that it was a stupid idea to send sophisticated/highly educated/urban people from Europe to farm in the desert.
 
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I think he mainly said that it was a stupid idea to send sophisticated/highly educated/urban people from Europe to farm in the desert.

Its probably stupid to send ANYONE to farm the desert. Its bad enough that some people are forced through circumstance to try.
 
i was wondering this morning how many people would support the stopping of the destruction of gaza, if they could be guaranteed that they wouldnt be called anti-semitic. I recognise that there are many card-carrying zionist supporters who support the killing of palestinians as a way towards their particular goal. And I also realise that many people support the bombing and starvation of palestinians because they have friends or business relationships which would suffer if they didnt support it.

However, how many people are there in the middle of the opinion spectrum who are just too afraid to call for the cessation of the killing, purely because they dont want to be named and shamed as supposedly anti-semitic in social media. I would think there would be quite a lot, considering the modern paranoia about their social media personna.
 
i was wondering this morning how many people would support the stopping of the destruction of gaza, if they could be guaranteed that they wouldnt be called anti-semitic. I recognise that there are many card-carrying zionist supporters who support the killing of palestinians as a way towards their particular goal. And I also realise that many people support the bombing and starvation of palestinians because they have friends or business relationships which would suffer if they didnt support it.

However, how many people are there in the middle of the opinion spectrum who are just too afraid to call for the cessation of the killing, purely because they dont want to be named and shamed as supposedly anti-semitic in social media. I would think there would be quite a lot, considering the modern paranoia about their social media personna.

Seriously? Sticks and stones.
 

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We've got a portrayal of incredible influence of the Jewish lobby during this era, so much so that Truman did what he was told. Meanwhile, the USA didn't allow entry to Jewish refugees from the holocaust until the war was over - despite lots of petitioning from Jewish leaders.

It's an ugly fiction that you're pushing.
An ugly fiction I am pushing is it ,I am absolutely certain that people like Samuel Goldwyn,Jack Warner and numerous other people of the Jewish faith who controlled Hollywood then and the others who control it today knew all about propaganda then as they do today.

If anybody has fanciful fiction it is certainly not me, when the war was going on I am certain no one was taking in refugees whether they were Jewish or Gypsies for that matter it did not happen because quite a lot of countries were in a fight for their lives or do you not understand this.
 

If the Russians have not used Nuclear weapons in Ukraine it is hard to see them using in Syria,the Iraqi,s are moving to help Assad and when Iran does the same we will see how long the rebels last and what the rest of the Muslim world think of erdogan and Turkiye then. They may well find themselves on the outer and maybe even under pressure from within.

Israel has been able to facilitate Gaza through the connivance of Turkiye allowing Azer Oil to go to Israel as I said yesterday you cannot trust the Turks.
 
Why the hell is the fact that it "may include the TU-160 " vaguely interesting? It was the main bomber they used last time they bombed Syria.
I would be much more interested in what sort of munitions they will be dropping if it is the Iskander then the rebels would be wise to crawl back to Turkiye.
 
I would be much more interested in what sort of munitions they will be dropping if it is the Iskander then the rebels would be wise to crawl back to Turkiye.
Syria is a mess looks like Assad and his family have bailed to Russia.
Interesting to see how effectively Russia can handle 2 wars.

Been following this guy on X for awhile,he's been saying for ages watch out for ISIS via Afghanistan.
 
I can't speak for people in general, but if people throw unsubstantiated names at me for my opinion, it tells me more about them than it says about me.
Unfortunately there are many people who are not like you and are afraid to speak out for fear of being labeled a racist. Words like antisemitism have been highly effective in stifling debate, but they have now been done to death and have lost a lot of impact.
 
An ugly fiction I am pushing is it ,I am absolutely certain that people like Samuel Goldwyn,Jack Warner and numerous other people of the Jewish faith who controlled Hollywood then and the others who control it today knew all about propaganda then as they do today.

If anybody has fanciful fiction it is certainly not me, when the war was going on I am certain no one was taking in refugees whether they were Jewish or Gypsies for that matter it did not happen because quite a lot of countries were in a fight for their lives or do you not understand this.

Yes many of the major studios were owned by Jews. It was outrageous. And yes, they understood propaganda and defied a ban against anti-nazi films, angering the more powerful American isolationist movement. Definitive proof that the President of the USA was being controlled by nefarious Jewish forces.
If anybody has fanciful fiction it is certainly not me, when the war was going on I am certain no one was taking in refugees whether they were Jewish or Gypsies for that matter it did not happen because quite a lot of countries were in a fight for their lives or do you not understand this.
The most famous case was actually just before the War - a war when the USA at no time had its existence threatened - a boat load of Jewish refugees fleeing persecution in Europe were denied entry in American port after port due to the power of the Aemrican nationalist movement. They eventually returned to Europe - some taken in by the countries who were actually about to have their existence threatened - most dying in the holocaust. I'm not sure how this fits in with Jewish control of the Presidency during this era, but I'm sure it does.
 
I can't speak for people in general, but if people throw unsubstantiated names at me for my opinion, it tells me more about them than it says about me.

well i think you would be in the minority. For example, I think a number of people who joined marches to support the ceasefire would have been shocked to be called anti-semitic and some of them might have decided not to raise their heads above the crowd in the future.
 
well i think you would be in the minority. For example, I think a number of people who joined marches to support the ceasefire would have been shocked to be called anti-semitic and some of them might have decided not to raise their heads above the crowd in the future.

If they were naive they shouldn't have marching and they shouldn't have been shocked.
 
Syria is a mess looks like Assad and his family have bailed to Russia.
Interesting to see how effectively Russia can handle 2 wars.

Been following this guy on X for awhile,he's been saying for ages watch out for ISIS via Afghanistan.


Hang on, didn't i just read somewhere that the rebels are USA/Israeli backed or Turkish?
 

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