Is it time for another SCG upgrade or a Perth stadium like stadium built in Sydney

[Boyohboywowwee]

With the raging success of the swans lately and the huge home crowds they are pulling in. Is it time for the scg to be upgraded on both wings and hopefully get the capacity up over 60k?

Or should there be a brand new 65 - 75k stadium built somewhere near the cbd or east Sydney if there is space.

Sydney is a growing city and the swans will be a powerhouse club in the next 5 years. They have the most supporters and fast growing membership base. Surely something has to be looked in to

 

[cottoneyeYeo]

move them to Accor full time

 

[Boyohboywowwee]

move them to Accor full time

I don’t think Sydney want anything to do with western Sydney, and why would you, the other team there can’t even get 500 people through the gates

 

[Fizzler]

They’ve got a couple big venues for concerts and rectangular sports in Sydney, I would think the Swans (and possibly Cricket) are the only parties that could really ever need the SCG to be redeveloped given there’s nowhere bigger for those two sports to be played. Dunno what the crowd numbers are like right now but idk, doesn’t seem like they would need a higher capacity for quite some time. With rectangular sports and concerts having another venue already, there isn’t really any external noise asking for that increase in capacity.

 

[errant bounce]

There's still plenty of free tickets getting passed 'round.

It's also one of the ugliest grounds in world sport, looks completely shithouse. ugly 90s block build, heaps of crap sponsors, and that recently built one at the side is just a terrible design.

 

[weewilly]

There's still plenty of free tickets getting passed 'round.

It's also one of the ugliest grounds in world sport, looks completely shithouse. ugly 90s block build, heaps of crap sponsors, and that recently built one at the side is just a terrible design.

With the raging success of the swans lately and the huge home crowds they are pulling in. Is it time for the scg to be upgraded on both wings and hopefully get the capacity up over 60k?

Or should there be a brand new 65 - 75k stadium built somewhere near the cbd or east Sydney if there is space.

Sydney is a growing city and the swans will be a powerhouse club in the next 5 years. They have the most supporters and fast growing membership base. Surely something has to be looked in to

I don't think there will be anymore upgrades at the SCG for a long time if ever but the Swans could play up to 3 x matches at Olympic Park/Accor each season against the powerhouse Melbourne sides (Collingwood,Carlton,Richmond,Essendon and maybe Geelong and I think they would pull upwards of 60,000 on a regular basis - the few million dollars (I think it was $15 Million back when the stadium was built) that the AFL paid ensure that the Olympic Stadium has ability to have an oval shape could pay big dividends in the furture if the Swans get on a roll over the next few seasons.

 

[mcs095]

I don't think there will be anymore upgrades at the SCG for a long time if ever but the Swans could play up to 3 x matches at Olympic Park/Accor each season against the powerhouse Melbourne sides (Collingwood,Carlton,Richmond,Essendon and maybe Geelong and I think they would pull upwards of 60,000 on a regular basis - the few million dollars (I think it was $15 Million back when the stadium was built) that the AFL paid ensure that the Olympic Stadium has ability to have an oval shape could pay big dividends in the furture if the Swans get on a roll over the next few seasons.

It won't happen. The AFL may enforce finals out there, but the Swans made an active decision to abandon playing there. It is a shit place to watch footy, and fans voted with their feet over the long period they played games there. Were some big crowds early on, but it dwindled over time, even when the Swans were going well and drawing pretty big crowds regularly at the SCG.

There will at some point be upgrades at the SCG, because there will have to be. But it won't be any time soon - there is zero money in the Government coffers, as good as the SCG Trust are at extracting it. A replacement for the Brewongle Stand would be nice however- good view, but dreadful frigging stand.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

It won't happen. The AFL may enforce finals out there, but the Swans made an active decision to abandon playing there. It is a shit place to watch footy, and fans voted with their feet over the long period they played games there. Were some big crowds early on, but it dwindled over time, even when the Swans were going well and drawing pretty big crowds regularly at the SCG.

There will at some point be upgrades at the SCG, because there will have to be. But it won't be any time soon - there is zero money in the Government coffers, as good as the SCG Trust are at extracting it. A replacement for the Brewongle Stand would be nice however- good view, but dreadful frigging stand.

But, but, Gladys said NSW could have it all, including a knock down rebuild of the Olympic stadium that's not even 25 years old.

 

[BornAgainIdiot]

Quite sure when attended a couple games when the new Brandman/Noble stand was being constructed there was this info on display around the ground.

https://www.austadiums.com/stadiums/scg/redevelopment

 

[its been done]

It won't happen. The AFL may enforce finals out there, but the Swans made an active decision to abandon playing there. It is a shit place to watch footy, and fans voted with their feet over the long period they played games there. Were some big crowds early on, but it dwindled over time, even when the Swans were going well and drawing pretty big crowds regularly at the SCG.

There will at some point be upgrades at the SCG, because there will have to be. But it won't be any time soon - there is zero money in the Government coffers, as good as the SCG Trust are at extracting it. A replacement for the Brewongle Stand would be nice however- good view, but dreadful frigging stand.

Only chance of us playing home games at Accor again is maybe for a couple of games when the next stand gets demolished, which at this rate, is going to be the Brewongle-Churchill Stands and it would make sense to give the demolition team time to remove the old stand as well as set up temporary change/warm up rooms for the Swans somewhere behind the Member's Pavilion. Last year my tour guide told me that the Media Centre in the Brewongle has been subject to complaints in recent times from 7, 9 and Fox Sports, especially regarding the lift, which requires replacement or a major repair soon

 

[mcs095]

Only chance of us playing home games at Accor again is maybe for a couple of games when the next stand gets demolished, which at this rate, is going to be the Brewongle-Churchill Stands and it would make sense to give the demolition team time to remove the old stand as well as set up temporary change/warm up rooms for the Swans somewhere behind the Member's Pavilion. Last year my tour guide told me that the Media Centre in the Brewongle has been subject to complaints in recent times from 7, 9 and Fox Sports, especially regarding the lift, which requires replacement or a major repair soon

We didn't move games when they did Stage 2 - but as you say, the Brenwongle/Churchill has media etc that might make the more difficult. It's all academic to some degree for now I think - I don't think there will be money any time soon for upgrades. But then again - they found $40m recently to upgrade Leichardt Oval (which has character and charm - but all of about 3 league games a year), so maybe somewhere a magic pudding can be found. I'd love to see those stands upgraded next - they have a good view, but the facilities are in general outdated and poor.

I fully expect the AFL will try and move at least one of our finals out to dumpsville this year, given how strong our crowds have been.

 

[Philhawk]

From speaking to people I know well at VenuesNSW, there’s a precisely 0% chance of any SCG upgrade over the next 10-15 years.

Currently, funds are being deployed on the new Penrith Stadium + Sporting Club of Sydney new upgrade (next to SCG). That’s scheduled to be completed 2026.

That said, that latter upgrade will include a 4-storey car park which will better open up the possibility of a stadium upgrade down the track.

 

[Walshawk]

SCG Masterplan confirmed for 2025

Ageing Stands at Sydney Cricket Ground Highlight Urgent Need for Upgrades - Surry Hills News

The $500-million redevelopment plan of the Sydney Cricket Ground in Moore Park will modernise facilities and enhance fan experience.

surryhillsnews.com.au

 

[The Tilt]

SCG Masterplan confirmed for 2025

Ageing Stands at Sydney Cricket Ground Highlight Urgent Need for Upgrades - Surry Hills News

The $500-million redevelopment plan of the Sydney Cricket Ground in Moore Park will modernise facilities and enhance fan experience.

surryhillsnews.com.au

Venues NSW confirmed that a condition assessment of the three stands will begin this year as part of the project. While no immediate plans exist to increase the SCG’s current 48,000-seat capacity, experts suggest that redeveloping the O’Reilly Stand could add space for an additional 7,000 fans.

That would be great, but it's almost hard to believe. The O'Reilly Stand would currently only hold around that much. It's hard to see how they'd double its capacity.

 

[Bjo187]

Just calculating it out, upgrading those 3 stands could get it up to 60k which would be a nice and appropriate number for the swans. At least they fill the place, unlike the waste of money on rugby league stadiums that sit half empty most of the time.

Bill O'Reilly stand +5k
Churchill +10k

 

[mcs095]

That would be great, but it's almost hard to believe. The O'Reilly Stand would currently only hold around that much. It's hard to see how they'd double its capacity.

If it integrated the big screen into it and reached all the way around the meet the Bradman/Noble stand, it might get close. Agree that an extra 7K seats seems a lot however - I would have though it might get to 10K or perhaps 11K if it was extended around and made similar in style to Bradman/Noble or Trumper.

 

[Cmarsh]

Push for an upgrade at the SCG now that Brisbane is getting a new stadium

‘Old and tired’: Greenberg warns SCG needs upgrade as Brisbane promised first Test after Olympics

Test cricket will remain at the Gabba in the lead up to Brisbane 2032 as Cricket Australia chief executive Todd Greenberg declared the SCG “desperately” needed upgrading.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Bjo187]

Push for an upgrade at the SCG now that Brisbane is getting a new stadium

‘Old and tired’: Greenberg warns SCG needs upgrade as Brisbane promised first Test after Olympics

Test cricket will remain at the Gabba in the lead up to Brisbane 2032 as Cricket Australia chief executive Todd Greenberg declared the SCG “desperately” needed upgrading.

www.smh.com.au

It's actually the ideal snowball effect that the AFL will get out of Brisbane getting a new stadium, Sydney will be forced to follow suit so we'll end up with two newer and bigger stadiums, in our two main expansion markets, perfect.

 

[Philhawk]

Sadly, I feel there’s little chance the SCG gets any major upgrade over the next decade.

 

[mrherman]

Sadly, I feel there’s little chance the SCG gets any major upgrade over the next decade.

It’s already had several 100 million spent on it over the past few years

It gets used for the swans H&A and odd finals, NSW shield cricket and a few league games
Hardly justification for major up grades. The only thing displaying is the insecure Sydney thing again

 

[Cmarsh]

It’s already had several 100 million spent on it over the past few years

It gets used for the swans H&A and odd finals, NSW shield cricket and a few league games
Hardly justification for major up grades. The only thing displaying is the insecure Sydney thing again

And test cricket. Which there is plans to play more of England and India so there will be more demand. Some of it does need a rebuild. The Oreiley stand is about 35 years old.

 

[mrherman]

And test cricket. Which there is plans to play more of England and India so there will be more demand. Some of it does need a rebuild. The Oreiley stand is about 35 years old.

One test or two tests tops a year

The great southern stand is 35 odd years old also and mcg gets hundred times more use each year and no calls to replace that

There is a thing in Sydney that every first class team expects the tax payer to foot the bill for there own stadium, not all get is but most do. No other state gets this!

Now with the Brisbane olympic venues announcement, NRL numpty and cronies are crying about Suncorp and threatening to remove games unless they get an up grade also

 

[Cmarsh]

One test or two tests tops a year

The great southern stand is 35 odd years old also and mcg gets hundred times more use each year and no calls to replace that

There is a thing in Sydney that every first class team expects the tax payer to foot the bill for there own stadium, not all get is but most do. No other state gets this!

Now with the Brisbane olympic venues announcement, NRL numpty and cronies are crying about Suncorp and threatening to remove games unless they get an up grade also

Pretty sure taxpayer funds are used for just about every stadium upgrade around the country.

And no calls to rebuild the MCG Southern stand? You might want to check the news.

 

[mrherman]

Pretty sure taxpayer funds are used for just about every stadium upgrade around the country.

And no calls to rebuild the MCG Southern stand? You might want to check the news.

Not hissy fits like there has been in Sydney and the NRL folk

People forget the amount of use of a stadium gets to the return. The self entitlement of the nrl and Sydney siders is pathetic and money can be spent on better things

 

[Boyohboywowwee]

‘Old and tired’: Greenberg warns SCG needs upgrade as Brisbane promised first Test after Olympics

Test cricket will remain at the Gabba in the lead up to Brisbane 2032 as Cricket Australia chief executive Todd Greenberg declared the SCG “desperately” needed upgrading.

www.watoday.com.au