Opinion INTERNATIONAL Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

Is this the best thread ever and the other poxy international thread should be closed

  • Yes because I’m a winner

    Votes: 9 90.0%
  • No because I’m a loser

    Votes: 2 20.0%

  • Total voters
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Yes there was - you can’t change the fact no matter how you try it was an insurrection. End of story.

PS : You said it before and you were proven wrong. There was no storming of the WH. FMD!
No there wasn't, if there was, why was Trump never ever charged with it by Bidens DoJ who were just itching to try jail him. I was not proven wrong, you were, it was and has been proven to be a fed set up event to entrap innocent people
 
He did all those things - it is called reporting.

What was incorrect about any of that?

He has withdrawn from Paris Accord ✅
He has called immigration a National Emergency and therefore can use troops (and did) ✅
Freed violent criminals (pardoned) ✅

Come on.

PS : this is Australia and thankfully we have compulsory and preference voting and don’t have PMs issuing Executive Orders.
They could have worded it like this, Donald trump has changed course today for the USA to make them energy efficient again, he freed 1500 people for the jan 6th riot of whom most were jailed for non voilent behaviour and he has set about securing the US border to ensure the safety of his own people. See how media could portray it and its all factual.
 

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What are your views on trump pardoning people involved in storming capitol Hill? You can't mention Biden.
I'm sure the families of the 5 people who died & 174 injured, including Police would have no issue with these violent protesters being pardoned in the name of Trump.

Why would they want to discourage similar violent protests in the future...
 
but those on the right seem to get their knickers in a twist over it.
This will come as a surprise to the many left-wingers who also "have their knickers in a iwist" as you put it.

Why? Who knows.
Because they care about reality, reason, and the rights of women and children.

For example - answer this: Do you think males should be kept in women's prisons?
 
These preemptive pardons are a dangerous precedent. So now Presidents can hire people to commit crimes with the promise of a preemptive pardon?
 

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What are your views on trump pardoning people involved in storming capitol Hill? You can't mention Biden.
The whole pardon crap in the USA is bullshit, no different for either the Dems or Reps.
 
The whole pardon crap in the USA is bullshit, no different for either the Dems or Reps.

100% this, i dont get it, its stupid. My take is its an outdated tradition designed to show that the president is merciful and for the people. These days its more like a get out of jail card given to suit political agendas. Im glad we dont have this in Australia.
 
These preemptive pardons are a dangerous precedent. So now Presidents can hire people to commit crimes with the promise of a preemptive pardon?


I dont agree with Pardons at all. I think its dumb. My take is it is nothing more than political gamesmanship to prevent Trump targeting his political enemies in retribution. I am not even convinced Trump will seek to do that anyway. You have to have evidence of crimes being committed and his DOJ looks like a pretty smart operator and im not sure she will throw her reputation under the bus to help Trump politically points score. But as I just said, im not even sure Trump will do that. He won, I think he has bigger fish to fry.
 
Just a followup to the J6 committee pardons

Impeachment is still a thing and im not sure congress will look upon anything like that favorably. Got to remember, republicans are now in post Trump era mode for the next election and they will be wary of seeking retribution as to how it could blow back on them come the next election cycles, especially the mid terms and the next POTUS election.

But if genuine crimes have been committed by anyone, including Trumps political rivals, a crime is a crime is a crime. I have no issues. Lots to play out here I think.
 
Or the likes of India & China are not being serious about renewables, so why should we be...

Well these same experts are expert in fire governance, environmental management and american issues and how the locals feel about them. So making grand statements about renewables is beneath them.
 
It’s why they’ve turned their hatred onto Elon Musk.

In this crazy world he has restored the gift of free speech and they simply cannot win while free speech exists.

Their whole ideology depends on the stifling of free speech.

Musk and the right as champions of free speech.

Haha. That’s superb. Keep them coming.

My personal favourites are the thin-skinned types who can't stomach having their opinions challenged and conflate this with oppression of free speech. “You can’t say anything anymore” 🎻

Then you have Musk’s banning or suppressing of words, journalists, media agencies and other accounts he disagrees with (or who say things which humiliate him personally), the GOP/ultra conservative Christian led book bans and efforts to control the education system, etc.

They’re all massive hypocrites on this, and are more than happy to curtail free speech, just with their preferred lens on the issue.
 
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