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In retrospect, how goshdarned awesome was the Swans/Eagles rivalry?
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freo do but the swans arent far behind
Rhetorical question, we know it was very goshdarned awesome.
In retrospect, the results between these two sides during the 2005/2006 (and 2007) era were like something out of a Disney film about sport or something- just so many improbably close and ridiculously theatrical results.
Just to refresh your memory a bit...
So, Leo Barry, in the back pocket...heads along the boundary line, oh, good mark by Cox! Cox throws it onto the left... one last roll of the dice for the Eagle- LEO BARRY YOU STAR! The longest premiership drought in football history is over! "
Could we have a draw? I'll go with it now as the ball is kicked to the fifty, huge pack flies, Stenglein- Buchanan put the head down, got it out to O'Keefe- kick smothered! Chick! Hunter! Eagles by seven!
"Kerr goes into the middle, here's the moment for the Swans...Leo Barry's in there..Noone taking a backward step- Lynch! Just manages to get boot to ball- Waters keeps it alive, Waters is dog tired- now O'Keefe, the ball comes back to Waters, now picked up by Fosdike, Fosdike has got to get it moving, kicks to the fifty- Dempsters there can't take the mark, Glass will see it over, throw in! There can't be long, there can not be long to go. The West Coast Eagles, lead by a point, can the Swans do it? SIREN! Who would have thought the sequel would be just as good as the original?!"
There were just so many more memorable moments during that period-
-Hunter's final quarter screamer and goal in the 2005 QF, the hugely controversial free kick to Stenglein in that same game, followed by O'Loughlin nailing an absolute gem from the pocket to close the margin again in a quarter which ran to 35min +
-Cox storming down the wing in the 2005 Grand final and goaling from 50. Ablett kicking to Cousins in the goal square in that same game, Buchanan goaling to put them in front in the final quarter.
- Stenglein dribbling the ball through in the game at subi in 2006, to give the Eagles a 2pt win.
-O'Loughlin running into goal to give the Swans a one point win in the '06 QF and giving the bloke in the cheersquad a massive gobful in the process.
- Goodes goaling in 7 seconds from the opening bounce of the '06 GF final quarter, Armstrong's moment of glory, O'Keefe's freak goal in response (I still maintain Embley touched it)
- Kerr's great tackle to draw a htb in the dying seconds of Rd 1 '07 to seal another 1pter, and Bolton goaling from a free in the dying seconds of the return fixture that year, giving the swans a 5pt win after having trailed all day.
Just thinking back, I feel ****ing fortunate to have seen more than half of those games in person. From the 2005 QF which kicked off proceedings till rd 1 2007, the results were- Eagles (4pts) Swans (4pts) Eagles (2pts) Swans (1pt) Eagles (1pt) Eagles (1pt)... So many great moments. What have I missed?
Did they have a rivalry??? And what the hell does goshdarned mean???
'Goshdarned' is a term used exclusively by private school toffs, notably West Coast Eagles supporters, to describe their Applecross-view of the world.
yeah, because the only "real" rivalries involve collingwood, right? or carlton? thats what you victorian think isnt it? if it didnt happen in the 80s or before, its not "real"
minor, intracity, suburban VFL rivalries asie, IMO the only other modern rivalry that compares is collingwood/lions, and even then it compares UNfavourably.
About as much rivalry as the supposed Brisbane & Collingwood..however unlike Bris and Coll being so one-sided , the Swans and Eagles matched up perfectly on eachother - was always good to watch.
, the Swans and Eagles matched up perfectly on eachother - was always good to watch.
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I never said that you did.
A rivalry which has lasted two years is a bloody rivalry in a tea cup...try again.
Some rivalries, not including Collingwood have lasted longer than that....do you get my point?
Bump this thread in 20 years.
Bollox you are normally an excellent poster but I would have to say this was the worst 'rivalry' for quite sometime. If either team kicked 2 quick goals towards the end of either grand final those 2 grand finals would be universally labeled the most boring grand finals of all time.
Ned Flanders, is that you?
Karma sure caught up with Staker.
Rivalries are not just built on close games, but the quality of the teams and (often) events off-field.
eg Port v Adelaide is Port's biggest rivalry, despite the following stats head-to-head v Brisbane.
22 games, with 9 matches having margins of 0,0,1,2,2,6,6,7,and 10 points.
From 2001 through 2004, the two teams combined had a W-L record of 140-39-1 against other teams, and 5-5 head to head.
That's how good these two teams were head-to-head over this era, and why it was so disappointing that Port Adelaide screwed up a couple of finals so we didn't get to see them head-to-head for 3 or 4 GF's in a row.
eg Port v Adelaide is Port's biggest rivalry, despite the following stats head-to-head v Brisbane.
22 games, with 9 matches having margins of 0,0,1,2,2,6,6,7,and 10 points.
From 2001 through 2004, the two teams combined had a W-L record of 140-39-1 against other teams, and 5-5 head to head.
That's how good these two teams were head-to-head over this era, and why it was so disappointing that Port Adelaide screwed up a couple of finals so we didn't get to see them head-to-head for 3 or 4 GF's in a row.
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Don't make me call you a cad, because if I have to, I will.
Hawthorn supporters are now the messiahs of what's a rivalry amd what isn't. Stop drinking from that cup, you might save some of those brain cells yet.
Wow I'm glad I'm not in Australia right now.
Hawthorn vs Geelong is a much greater rivalry, and generally, the results are 5+goals.
WCE vs Sydney recieved a lot of national coverage, which is the only thing that seperates it from any other series of games from any other teams in my opinion.
WCE vs Sydney recieved a lot of national coverage, which is the only thing that seperates it from any other series of games from any other teams in my opinion.
A close game isn't always a good game.
Usually excrutiating to watch until the last 5 minutes.
There was more scoring in soccer games than in WCE vs. Sydney games
Usually excrutiating to watch until the last 5 minutes.
There was more scoring in soccer games than in WCE vs. Sydney games
kind of agree with this comment.
The games were very exciting.
But for these 2 teams to be called rivals...the close contests have to continue, fans have to come out in numbers and they probably need some prime time clashes.
You can't call it a rivalry if we are talking 'in retrospect'....rivalries continue and endure even when the teams are at the bottom of the ladder. Collingwood and Carlton provide a massive spectacle no matter what ladder position is.
But, the games were highly enjoyable and there is a great basis for a modern day rivalry to form.
But I'm sure West Coast would consider Fremantle their arch rivals. These matches are always blockbusters...and usually unpredictable as to the result. Plus there are always reports, fights, bumps and some pretty exciting football, regardless of ladder position.
Dave, you're absolutely correct but it's common for Eagles fans to dismiss any rivlary with Freo as beneath them, and the only reason we keep winning derbies is because we want to win TOO much.
Meanwhile, they keep trying to be noticed by Essendon.
We (Port Adelaide) get the same thing with the Crows.
- When we win, it's only because we want to win TOO much.
- But when they win..... they're just too good.
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We all know that real rivalries are built on AFL manufactured "Blockbuster" games and events from the past that most of us are too young to remember.
Maybe if the AFL scheduled the swans and eagles to play on a public holiday and gave out some faggy, irrelevant medal for best player we could have a "real" rivalry too
Maybe if the AFL scheduled the swans and eagles to play on a public holiday and gave out some faggy, irrelevant medal for best player we could have a "real" rivalry too
God forbid two teams respect each other
Erm.Since when does a handfull of close games equal a rivalry. Sure, whilst it's still going on you would like nothing more to beat the other, but in years to come, they it will most likely been seen for what it was. Two teams, both at their peak, giving their all.
Pies and lions fans have all (mostly
Right about when 2 of those games were GFs decided by less than a goal, that's almost enough to create a classic rivalry on it's own.
Add in a smattering of other heartstopping finals and other great games and you can't deny it.
A series of close games does not necessarily equate to a 'great rivalry'. If you made a box set of all those close games, who would honestly watch it? Tough, but mostly boring stoppage city footy for 3 hours at a time.
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+ 1 to that.
+ 1 to that.
They were fantastic games. Remember listening to the last H/A game of the 2002 (?) season on radio, spine tingling stuff. Don't think I've ever heard a better call.
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